Forward: official GIGA 965P-S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 beta BIOS

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Originally Posted by Phosphate

Interesting theory about Gigabyte using failed chipsets, but does the DQ6 suffer the same D9 problem? I'm asking because I doubt Gigabyte would put the same lower binned chipset in their flagship.

So if the DQ6 has the D9 problem also then I think it might really be a coding issue rather than a hardware issue.

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the DQ6 from what i have seen doesnt suffer from the D9 issue.
which is another point i have pointed out to gigabyte many,,,, MANY times.
what is different about the 2 boards in the memory controller? if they are the same northbridge then what makes the 2 boards different?

there are really only 3 places that can do this.
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The northbridge (if they are identcle 965P chipsets then whats the problem)
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the bios (the bios can tell the board to do anything it wants, so wtf!!)
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the hardware components of the motherboard. (meaning the DS3/S3 use extremely poor voltage control and bus components)

Hi!

Im new to this forum.

I also had DS3 motherboard, and i had great deal of problems with it like misterious crashes (even on default frequencies), problems with all kinds of memory modules (including some elpida and all kinds of d9 chips)..
I RMA the mobo 2 times...now I 've got DS4, and i'm curious about memory compatibility. Does the DS4 board also suffer from D9 problem?

ATM I have twin2x1024-6400c4 rev 2.1...this memory probably has promos chips...max stable frequencies are 933Mhz @ cl4-4-4-12 (2.1V) and 1066Mhz @ cl5-5-5-15 (2.2V)

only way to know if there are any problems is for you to try it.
it takes 10 seconds to set to bios and reboot.

problem is i don't have any d9 modules. i'll try to get one...

I was just curious about other people's expirience with d9+ds4 combination

Ok i tried some OC today. BAH!

I tried a modest OC to see how temps faired on standard HSF from intel. I went to 333 fsb (close to 2.4ghz like old p4 was). Coretemp showed 70c not even underload! lol Is it normal that each core vary by like 5 degrees sometimes?

I guess I won't be OC till i get a watercooling setup. :P The good news was i was about to boot into windows at over 3ghz at auto memory timings on ram, just got to hot to fast.

markopoleo, I'd reseat the heatsink - 70C is much too high, even for a stock heatsink, even with coretemp/TAT. Check the bottom of the heatsink to make sure that you've taken off any labels or previous goop/thermal pads.

I flashed F7 for my DQ6 today, think it's actually slightly worsened my memory situation - my Crucial DDR2-533 can't run at 1GHz 5-5-5-15 anymore.

I removed the old stuff and have AS5 on it before install. I put like a inch round circle on CPU before attaching heatsink, perhaps i should put more? The latches seem to be set correctly. I have fan set to run full speed all the time to in bios.

These are temps underload with distributed.net running on in background..

Session start: 11:30:47, November 10, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor: Ä
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Originally Posted by markopoleo

I removed the old stuff and have AS5 on it before install. I put like a inch round circle on CPU before attaching heatsink, perhaps i should put more?

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http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

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Originally Posted by markopoleo

Well xram itself is a joke so I would not bother with a card with x-ram.

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Guess what? Picked up the new FATAL card and all crackling is gone. More here...

Does anyone here have a RAID 1 setup working on the JMICRON controller? I have q's!

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Guess what? Picked up the new FATAL card and all crackling is gone. More here...

Does anyone here have a RAID 1 setup working on the JMICRON controller? I have q's!

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Still has nothing to do with X-ram being a joke. Its not the x-ram that fixed anything..

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Originally Posted by msgclb

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

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I redid it just now, see how it turns out. It was close to the same, but maybe it work better. What is the ideal temp underload 55-60c tops?

Only been running it for 40min, but temps "seem" better..is that normal now?

Session start: 14:56:8, November 10, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor: Ä
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Bah, now its back up to 58-60c under load. On well best I can get it till i upgrade cooling.

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Originally Posted by iceblade

dude it has NOTHING to do with bluetooth. This set works fine in everything except gigabyte 965P mobos. When i overclock with DS4 I can't boot even with using ANOTHER usb k/b mouse, even when i connect an external USB hard disk. If i overclock even 1 Mhz, i cant connect ANY USB device when im booting. When I'm pas the memory check i can connect any usb device i want . Do a search on the forums, there are plenty of ppl having problem with connected usb devices upon booting with these mobos. It's a problem of the mobo PERIOD. jeez. just happens to some ppl and not the other but the issue EXISTS and i want to see Gigabyte doing something about this simple "feature" before we hit F20 BIOS

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Dude are you a moron? just disable usb keyboard/mouse support in BIOS :p:

Lestat, a new bios may most likely fix the DS3's D9 problem ... after all, the latest DQ6 bios says it fixes it ...

yeah i'm the one who's been saying that for months Scythe,, i guess you didnt read the 101 pages and jumped right to the end lol.

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Originally Posted by markopoleo

I redid it just now, see how it turns out. It was close to the same, but maybe it work better. What is the ideal temp underload 55-60c tops?

Only been running it for 40min, but temps "seem" better..is that normal now?

Session start: 14:56:8, November 10, 2006
CPUID: 0x6F6
Processor: Ä
1866.67 51 48
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Bah, now its back up to 58-60c under load. On well best I can get it till i upgrade cooling.

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here's what to do ,, go about your normal computing and stop benching and stressing. ok tonight when you go to bed shut the system down.
as the AS5 cools it will "set in" tommorrow when you get up the temps you see will be wha you normally are going to get.

I know ... but never have any of Gigabyte's BIOS said "micron D9 Fix" until the latest DQ6 Bios ... and that's when you switched to your theory of "bad 965 chipsets" ... which may as well be true ...

Personally i think there is a Micron D9 issue with the DQ6, which is why i can't get past 450FSB.

With an earlier bios i was able to boot 445-448FSB, but since F6 is 440FSB and under.

Can anyone independently verify the bios ROM for the DQ6 with F7?...because mine says 1.06.53 and has not been updated, same ROM since F1.

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Originally Posted by ScythedBlade

I know ... but never have any of Gigabyte's BIOS said "micron D9 Fix" until the latest DQ6 Bios ... and that's when you switched to your theory of "bad 965 chipsets" ... which may as well be true ...

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I don't belive that, they are a number of guys using Allendale chips that can boot past 450FSB, if you remember i was not able to boot past 350FSB until F5 bios came out. Once that was released my FSB increased to 450FSB.

It's bios related.

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Originally Posted by ScythedBlade

Lestat, a new bios may most likely fix the DS3's D9 problem ... after all, the latest DQ6 bios says it fixes it ...

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But has it?...the mian GB bios page says updated CPUID, it was also said the JMicron bios was updated and it's not.

I think it'll take F8 before everything gets fixed, and i don't expect F8 until January.

Just got a return email from GB tech support. "There is no new bios in the pipeline for the DS3".

Big surprise huh!

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Originally Posted by JPH1589

Just got a return email from GB tech support. "There is no new bios in the pipeline for the DS3".

Big surprise huh!

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Do you really think they know what is going on in Taiwan within the engineering group? :D

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Originally Posted by bingo13

Do you really think they know what is going on in Taiwan within the engineering group? :D

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Some people asked you some specific questions today and yesterday and the day before that.....and you ignored their questions. But you managed to answer this. Wonder why?

I refuse to believe that ... they had F8a RELEASED for DS3 ... that already contradicts the "We have no new BIOS planned for DS3"

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Originally Posted by Richard Dower

I don't belive that, they are a number of guys using Allendale chips that can boot past 450FSB, if you remember i was not able to boot past 350FSB until F5 bios came out. Once that was released my FSB increased to 450FSB.

It's bios related.

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not true.. I can do 450fsb with f3 and onwards so how do you explain that? remember both DS4 and DQ6 are almost identical... Maybe during f1-f4 you're not messing around with your vcore?

edit:because i'm not using d9 chip?

richard just set the ram divider to +4 or +3.33 and rasie the FSB from there.

set the ram to 4-4-4-9 or 12 set the vdimm to 2.1 or 2.2 and try and boot and run memtest.
get the ram as close to 1000 as possible and then try memtest if its ok over about 10 passes of test 5 then reboot and try 1025mhz or 1050..
i have seen some guys running over 1000 4-4-4. but i THINK it was with the D9GKX not the D9GMH ram. which is what most of our D9 ram is based off. the GMH.
the GKX is mostly the 8000 ram like the gskill or ocz