Tony,
On the RDX200 you have a drive strength range from 1-15 .
WHat's the strongest/weakest value?
I haven't played with all the drive strength settings yet , 7 seems to be a good 'default' for my board/memory (tried TCCD and BH-5)
thanks
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Tony,
On the RDX200 you have a drive strength range from 1-15 .
WHat's the strongest/weakest value?
I haven't played with all the drive strength settings yet , 7 seems to be a good 'default' for my board/memory (tried TCCD and BH-5)
thanks
some 130's had the cold bug also, its all probably do to memory controllr strength etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Troman
1 to 8 are just like 1 to 8 on the NF4 with the evens being normal drive 8 being strongest and 7 being weak strongest drive. I may rename 1 to 8 to make it a little more straight forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco
now 9 to 15 i have no idea, i don't know what resistance they set aand i don't actually know if the odds are still weak and the evens still normal. I should imagine 9 is weak and 10 is normal etc and 14 is the strongest drive normal and 15 is weak strongest drive...but its hard to say.
Oskar is not telling either im afaid :confused:
Pedro are you running that rig 24/7 wit the LS or is that just for benching? I was interested in buying a RDX200 for my 24/7 gaming rig. Going with a FX-57 2x1gb ballistix and 2x74gb raptors raid0. Would like 3ghz atleast on water and maybe 3.4 on modded Vapo LS for 24/7. Will this be compatible or should I just go with the Expert?
I threw my week 32 FX57 on this board using my cascade. It was useless, I used all drive strengths and the CPU just couldn't handle the cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
On the other hand, my previous FX57 ran at -90C all day with no drive strength tweaks. That was on NF4 DFI.
It’s all about the CPU.
OPP
OPPQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Im sorry but thats just 2 CPU's, when you have worked over a broad range of cpu's and the tweaks show a gain over all of them you go with that data.
Now, i never said its a cure, i said it helps....even if you got 15fsb higher than you did in the NF4 its still a gain.
It's too bad we have yet to see a good compare with the same cold bugged CPU on NF4/RS480 yet. I'd do it if I had a cascade.
What kind of cooling do you use for testing this broad range of CPUs? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
OPP
curious how that works, my understanding was that once you hit a cetain temp you just couldnt boot anymore....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
That's exactly how it works with a bad cold bugged CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
OPP
ok, i have the chance to test this board.
really weird results.
i can't seem to get it identify any IDE HDD i have.
memory OC:
Kingston HyperX pc3200 (old school BH5, benchable @ 270MHz 2x512MB)
Venice 3000+ E6
263 everything runs perfect
264 MHz and i can't even make it to memtest...
no matter what drive strength, no matter what voltage, refresh rates, or any other timming i change
in my DFI ultra-D i could easily memtest up to 269-270.
im definately looking forward to a new BIOS!
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
well then, how are these tweaks supposedto get you more FSB?
im not sure how a cpu that wont even boot is supposed to gain any fsb at all :confused:
I assume you would tweak the memory before the CPU gets cold. That’s what I tried doing anyway, with no success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
OPP
The conditions we saw were the following.
The CPU's that do boot suffer with low memory speeds at chilled temps, the lower you go on temps the lower the memory speed.
Now I do know some CPU's just won't boot below a certain temp, so the way to test is to boot at say -30, set the ram speed and drive strength, boot to windows and clock higher and reduce the temps while in windows.
For those who chill and have no luck booting probably nothing will help, but for those who can boot but have to run low ram speeds this should help you clock higher.
The new ATI System Manger is a very nice tool to the DFI RDX200 CF-DR motherboard ..here is a screen:
http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/DFI...ATI_SysMan.jpg
They are inclued in the Saphire Grouper ATI Chipset driver set, you can download here - unzip the file, and just install the from the ATI System Manger directory ..
In the ATI System Manger you can control almost everithing ..CPU speed, voltages, and all memory timmings, realy nice tool :D
Enjoy it :toast:
Be very careful with this tool on boards it wasn't designed for like RDX200. The results of doing so are unknown. The clocking stuff and A64 memory stuff should be okay but DO NOT CHANGE THE VOLTAGES on a board it wasn't designed for. The end result of doing so is unknown.
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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
Interesting if true. It may explain, to some degree, why there seems to be so much delay and confusion in getting other boards out.
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/200...ipset_roadmap/
I am happy with this board. But there are some software issues. For example when will there be a cpu-z version showing the correct vcore voltage? Ati tool is not working. Clockgen is still in beta version. Speedfan program just locks the computer when started. Do you people know that among these problems any solved?
As for the drive strengths in bios I think I read somewhere that 1-8 for using two dimm sticks and 9-15 for four sticks.
with the last bios, this board has better results than a dfi nf4?
It's hard to say whether it's better than my old nf4 sli-dr but it's definitely improved by means of overclocking with the latest bios. High htt problem is now history and tccd ram speed has been improved. I can use my Geil One Tccd ram with 300mhz 2.5-4-3-7 timings with this bios. Another cool thing is that this board works cooler than the old nf4.
I have yet to exceed 270mhz stable. I wanted to atleast reach 280-300Mhz on my 3200+
-k0nsl
are there any bios guide for tccds out there for this board?
Guys I'm trying to use 4 dimms at 1T but couldn't suceed in doing it yet. I used all drive strengths from 7-15 but no use. Also data strength 1 and 2. Tref at 3072 and 4708 e.t.c. I also used Tony's exact same timings on the second page of this topic but still it's no use. I paired a couple of Geil One Tccd sticks with a couple of Patriot Pc4800xblk. Do they have to be from the same vendor? Also I tried with 4 bh5 ram and couldn't make it. Can you tell me what the problem could be?
When will DFI release new bios? :cool:
Here's the latest beta BIOS 12/12:
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US
Air, water and chilly1 phase...what do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
he uses a -90c PCICE cascade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
wath kind off hardware change?is in the vdimm and vtt circut to alow more current? or is there other thing?is secret?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
is the 2bta bios that alow real cas 1.5?
i think it's got to do with 6 layer motherboard design and shorter traces :) ....no voodoo magic secrets thereQuote:
Originally Posted by PORTUGAL
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
the original nf4 lanparty had a 6 layer pcb... they added more phases to the power circuits.
great find Pedro, I just loaded it and it seems to work good on the RDX200.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
are you sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Things I have noticed on the RDX200.
Venice, San Diego ,Manchester cores all act Diffently on this board. Yes this could be said for all Motherboards but in My observation it is more prominiate on the RDX200.
The San Diego seems to be the Fastest/ Best overclocker on this board. The Venice 3800 worked Better on the Asus SLI Deluxe 2.9G stable only 2.8G on the RDX200. Board was the Only Difference.
hI all probly bring this tread out of the dead. but im setting up a RDX200. I like to use OccT for first test and like the read outs.I use mbm5 for Occt on my nf3 250 but it dont work for this board so i tryed speedfan and it dont work for me eather can anyone help me with this so i can get OccT working ?
ok now answer for that last one .
How about can anyone rember witch of tonys last two bios worked the best for tccd ?