Update: After a bit of tweaking i have now a read of 11408 in everest and a score of 15960 approx in 3D Mark 06:DQuote:
Originally Posted by flanr
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Update: After a bit of tweaking i have now a read of 11408 in everest and a score of 15960 approx in 3D Mark 06:DQuote:
Originally Posted by flanr
So is this board worth keeping or should i sell it and concentrate on the Evga Ultra Sli
I am interested in getting rid of one of them and i thought it was the Evge. but this
conversation is really making me think.
For some reason I can not get my new Everest Ultimate to work. It keep saying "Invalid floating point operation" and I just bought it 3 days ago?
Others would probably tell you different, but I would get rid of this one. Another silly design fault I have noticed is the second PCI X port blocks 2 SATA connections if you install a large GPU in the socket... hmm great idea! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
Caz I got +900 point with it in 3dmark vantage (P13084 vs P12178), for example. If you don't like some more points use whatever you like. Get rid of this board and use Asus, it is up to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
Add some voltage to your memory, it is pretty safe to use 1.8 or 1.9V, with some cooling I would say it is pretty safe up to 2.1 V on DDR3. My memory has in specification 2.0VQuote:
4. Tighten your memory settings - look which ones people use
LOL - this board wont even let me go one step up from 1066, when my memory is 1333 capable.
:welcome: here you are :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by flanr
Such as you can't use SLI with BlackOps and according to your signature you want to use SLI, get rid of BlackOps and use 790i (good luck to get it stable) or try Dreadnought.Quote:
Originally Posted by systemviper
Use Everest Ultimate BETA 1383 or upper (1403, for example http://download.softpedia.ro/dl/17a0...build_1403.zip), it should help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
Some boards are too new for a release version ...
Yeah and If I used the Asus, I woul be getting 3k more +900. I dont think you're getting my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Again not getting my point.... My memory has heatpipes on it. So you would assume I could get to a higher voltage, especially as my basic voltage should be 1.85v! Yet the motherboard undervolts my memory at 1.64v and whenever I try to get it to the right voltage and settings, the system goes nuts and starts to beep like a psycho on caffeine! Now does this explain my problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
You DO realise you can get SLI on one card nowadays? If not, then I'm not sure if I, or anyone else for that matter, should be taking your advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmcg
Update - Tried the drivers you suggested and I get around 400+ more and not the 900+ you claim, and that was WITH a GPU overclock, whereas before the GPU with in preset.
Hi All
I know i keep saying i will post my screenshots and settings but i promise by tomorrow evening i will have - its just that every time i make a change i have to create new screenshots as i will be only posting one set and i dont want numerous posts with only minor changes
these settings and screenshots will be my only and final ones as i have reached my target and am very happy:D - i know i could go higher on the overclock but to be honest, after taking taking this long to get this far i don't have the time as i have a load of other work to catch up on that fell behind while i was working on my blackops
i too was going to give up on this board as it is a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: compared to other boards to setup correctly, but i kept at it until I succeeded
thanks to everyone here and the anandtech preview article, i used a combination of settings from different people and now i am there:D
my settings can be used if anyone wishes but i cannot guarantee they will work for every one
the only remainig issue is the method i'll use to cool the nb
good luck to the rest of you
flanr
I've got your point of course. Only you can answer why you've got more points on Asus than on this board, caz we all don't know what did you do with it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
Well, Foxcoon is not designed for inpatient people ... or you've got a faulting board.Quote:
Again not getting my point.... My memory has heatpipes on it. So you would assume I could get to a higher voltage, especially as my basic voltage should be 1.85v! Yet the motherboard undervolts my memory at 1.64v and whenever I try to get it to the right voltage and settings, the system goes nuts and starts to beep like a psycho on caffeine! Now does this explain my problem?
If you will take a look on my signature, you will find out that I currently have 9800GX2, which uses inner SLI, but it is not equal to SLI for 8800GT and/or 8800GTS cards, used in systemviper's signature. If he wants to replace them to 9800GX2, that is another story, but he has never told us about such intention.Quote:
You DO realise you can get SLI on one card nowadays? If not, then I'm not sure if I, or anyone else for that matter, should be taking your advice.
I claim it on overclocked 9800GX2 - and that is MY SCORE difference, not yours, lol ... here are my scores:Quote:
Update - Tried the drivers you suggested and I get around 400+ more and not the 900+ you claim, and that was WITH a GPU overclock, whereas before the GPU with in preset.
Former one with 175.80: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=166556
Current one with 177.26 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=167675
Man, lets finish this discussion, I wanted to help you and now I don't want it anymore ... OK?
spikerules, i know what its like to run into problems with hardware and how frustrating it can be, but please calm down man. if its really giving you such a hard time then just send it back, but please stop bashing it here and poking at people who like the board and are happy with it.
1. about the memory performance, your comparing 790 with x48 here, thats not a board thing, its a chipset thing
memory wise 790 is faster. if you check out reviews you will see that this advantage in memory performance doesnt really translate into faster system performance... unfortunately... i think the fsb is limiting here.
well, im pretty sure actually, seeing as single channel on nehalem gets you 50% more mem perf than dual channel on x48 :D
2. thats why god invented 90 degree sata cables :D
but yeah, we will hopefully have 90 degree plugs on the board there in future
3. everything else you ranted about i didnt really understand.
please post more details in a calm way so i can try to help you fix those problems :P
what are you referring to? what did a website or review show or say about the blackops that is not true or not possible etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
could you please post more details about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by spikerules
congrats! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by flanr
everything else works fine? try to reinstall... if that doesnt work them pm "fiery" ,he works for lavalys and migh be able to fix it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
Thank you very much :up:Quote:
Use Everest Ultimate BETA 1383 or upper (1403, for example http://download.softpedia.ro/dl/17a0...build_1403.zip), it should help.
Some boards are too new for a release version ...
In the Everest memory benchmark, which is more important? A Higher Read, Copy, Write score, or, A better L1 and L2 cache score?
Flanr, I'm guessing you assigned the VTT a 1.50v value because it is "not really 1.50v but 1.40v"? Do we have any updates on this? I have seen a lot of BIOS versions coming out lately, is it guaranteed to be off by .10v even in the newer BIOS versions?
i tried a few diferent settings and found 1.50 was right for meQuote:
Originally Posted by Telo
Quote:
Originally Posted by flanr
Since at least 3 BIOS revisions have been released in the last 2 weeks, I wouldn't advise you to set the VTT that high as it will fry your CPU if it is in fact a real 1.50v going through it. You should really bring it down a notch and even run your PC slower if you have to until HiPro or Lard tell us that it is indeed off by 0.10v at the VTT.
drawing conclusions from everest or other memory benchmarks to real world performance is not easy... the fsb a bottleneck once again, just like in the p3 days where ddr wasnt really any faster on p3 compared to sdr since the p3s fsb couldnt make use of the bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman
just look at nehalem, single channel is 50% faster than x48 dc :D
from what ive seen read and latency are the important scores.
copy and write dont seem to have that big of an impact on gaming perf or other real world apps.
it is, i just checked it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Telo
its spot on .1v less than what you set in bios for 45nm cpus.
for 65nm the vtt setting in bios is spot on
hes running a 45nm cpu, so real vtt is indeed only 1.4v when he sets 1.5v in bios
Check out some of Raja's settings for 2100MHz Memory:
http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/sho...?t=1423&page=8
Hmm, will 1.71V Vnb be possible with a stock air cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
depends on the temperature...
are you using an open stand or case?
Case, but I modified my NB cooler a bit ... Of course I will use WC as soon as will get a copper cover ... or make an acrylic one. Even with this pretty good mod (at stock clocks and voltages temps are lower than 42C under load) with 1.35V, 430 MHz FSB and Prime95 long run load NB temp is around 57C ... with 1.5 V it is around 62C (Prime95 or Everest stress test long run), that is why I have asked ...Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
With open stand it should be another story though, you are right, saaya.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=143
what nb temps do you get according to the bios?
Both BIOS and Everest show me 50C with 1.35V and 430MHz FSB with more or less idle mode - standard operations like browsing, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I also have a temp sensor right on NB cooler, it shows 10-11C less, i.e. 39-40C while Everest shows 50C.
During load test Everest NB temp goes up to 57C and stabilizes there for hours ... but it takes like 15 min to get
there.
Such as I used to have pretty high temps with 780i and 790i on a NB (up to 67C), the above mentioned temps don't worry me at all, but 1.71V on a NB ... hmmm, may be with WC or using an open stand.
at cellshock i always ran the asus p5k3 deluxe boards at 1.7v nb voltage with a 80mm fan blowing on the mem and the stock heatsink.
i ran them like that for months... like 8 months i think?
and they didnt degrade at all...
then again, this was on open stands and not inside a case...
your nb temps sound really high considering you have a fan blowing on the heatsink :confused:
what case temp do you have?
is that fan on the nb blowing at full speed?
Case temp - I think it is below 32C (temp of my memory), it should be fine. That fan is blowing at full speed, it is 1800RPM only (to lower the noise) though it has like 32CFM (twice more comparing to a stock one) ... should be enough. I hope to use WC for NB soon anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Regarding ASUS - well, may be it has a different construction of NB cooler with more dissipating surface? And you have used a stand, here is a huge difference ... If I would locate my case on the floor instead of close to the ceiling, it should make a huge difference as well.