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Lol, I just tried FSB again with F8C on +18C ambient.
First boot straight 262FSB: http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/262fsb.JPG
And with higher NB: http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/252fsb.JPG
2 days ago I tried my rig with LN2 and I couldn't pass 213FSB.
http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/965@6709.JPG
http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/10.688.JPG
It can go higher than that ceemic ;)
I can boot 300MHz HTT easily :)
250FSB is enough for me :)
That didn't help lot in today:
http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/965@6741.JPG
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=867580
http://ceemic.pri.ee/amd/10.625.JPG
Max NB I could run 1M was ~4180MHz.
So i assume you like F8C bios:)
neo mike, seems better for me than F3L :)
http://www.upload.ee/thumb/290584/nb_4539_10.610.PNG
6408mhz
nb 4539mhz (H)
superpi 1m time 10.610
sick nb speed :P more to come...
good job. We need new WR in x64 CInebench and in wprime (in wprime is the best HT/NB 2200/2200MHZ! )
Wow 10.6 super pi is sweet.
Crazy stuff happening on Gigabyte 790FX-UD5P + G. Skill Ripjaws red 1600Mhz rated C9-9-9 24 1.5V
First of all, where did you guys noticed vmem droop on this mobo? Actually it overvoltage mine ram. Set 1.7V and u get 1.75V in DMM, 1.75 and I got an 1.81V!
About the RAM:
No way to get it stable working on Cas7 using 1333Mhz divider but what about Cas6 @ 1600Mhz when using 1066Mhz divider?
Even in this setting there is no way to match TRCD and TRP w/ the CAS there must be an 9 in TRCD to pass 1500Mhz, and unless an 7 for TRP.
Stability Gains can be observed when using higher voltage, anyway I only tested till 1.85V in bios wich actually gave me 1.90V (DMM). thats the only way to get it stable @1600Mhz 6-9-7. By the way I can use 1.75V and get 1600@ 6-9-8 1T.
Any hint of wich chips are them? I've paid like US$135 for 2x 2GB of them. Already in Brasil.
http://i47.tinypic.com/xapekz.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/6yz0d0.jpg
So i have read this ENTIRE thread, all i have to say is Chew, ur a very patient person with ppl, lol, anyway ty guys good read, BUT i am still left with this question....what damn ram should i buy (answer would have been hypers im assuming, not so much anymore because of all the deaths) so what sticks should i get for 2x2gb, i want to run the best timings i can (who doesn't lol) should i go for a 1600 7-7-7-23 kit or a 7-x-7-24 kit at 1.65 or lower, or should i go for a 2000 mhz kit at 8-8-8-xx or 9-9-9-xx at 1.65 or lower, seems most tests r on I7's....
Dragon
Chew is a great and paticent guy thats for sure. I would get Corsair GTS 2000 cas 8 4gig kit, about $210 they will do 1600 cas 6, there low voltage 1.65, or you cant Micron GTR, GTS they will run on 1.9 2.0 volts, good for benching, but not for 24/7, thats what i have learned from guys here and this thread.
I have a kit of OCZ 1866 cas 7 and they do 1600 cas 6 is a cake walk, but i want 1733 cas 6, im getting memory errors, so will keep testing them, and there hypers. Hope that helps you.
would this b the ram u speak of for the 2000mhz kit? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145266
Dragon
Thats it, if you can order off [url]www.microcenter.com website is only $209, but thats the memory. Well i just got 1700 cas 6 to pass memtest so im pretty happy :yepp:
So i take it these 2000mhz dominator kits use the same IC's as the 1600mhz version just binned a lot better? would something of the same speed by kingston or other b the same as they r a lot cheaper, jw
Dragon
Well i just ordered the 2000mhz Cas 8 Dominator kit from microcenter.com.....gonna b a little over budget now on my build, but meh they better perform :) , the rest of my parts should follow from newegg.com either tomorrow or Monday (gonna have to put some more cash in the bank that ram was 2x more then what i had planed on spending!!!)
Dragon
BUT i get a shiny fan!!! (and hopefully not a bunch of RMA's from them being hypers) So i am asking them now to play nice!! u hear that ram? no deaths for u!!
Is the Tmpin2 reading on AMD Overdrive closer to reality for the 955 CPU temp than the CORE cpu readings?
I hate that all cores read the same temp which I assume is completely stupid and impossible.
i was also wondering how all cores read the same temp (even my duel core @100% load shows temp fluctuations between them but they always avg about the same temps in the end, core 2 does run a little bit hotter), But i don't think i have EVER seen an AOD screen on idle or on load where the cores r at diff temps even by 1 deg, anyone else but me and Shaolin95 think this odd? or r the cores just loaded that evenly? one would think one core would still b hotter then another due to heatsink mounts and tim applications varying, or does each core not have its own probe? and it just reads the temp from one core and outputs that as all 4?
Dragon
In AOD all my cores are same temp all the time from what i have seen.
Doesn't matter of which program you use. Run Everest and you'll see the same = all cores at same temperature. That's because of one temp sensor in AMD CPUs which is placed in the middle of the cores and it read only one temperature. Programs are there just to read what the sensor "say".
Kind of lame I guess when you are trying to make sure your TIM and Heatsink setup is done right.
Oh well, guys do you know how much voltage is safe for a 955 on AIR.
Due to my air duct and my extreme Noctua NH-D14 (SanAce + Scythe + Delta) I get about 43-45C load temps...just wondering how far I can go.
Finally 4017Mhz OCCT Stable at NB 2678Mhz
Windows 7 64bit of course...
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2903/...9mbocctsta.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/889055.png
nice C2 chip man !
Thanks, just taking advantage of the winter temps and my air duct plus the Noctua NH-D14 with my 3 fan config. lol
I was able to run 64bit Cinebench at 4095 but OCCT bsod. I did not adjust any voltages from the previous 4017 run so I need to push a bit more later tonight.
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4884/d14a.jpg
Sorry for the bad pic...I was not in a very picture taking mood that day.
Looks like 2 of my DIMM slots died. 2 & 4. I tested all the slots with 3 different kits. I can run one or two dimms in 1&3 but nothing in 2 or 4. Anyone run into this issue? PSU? Board RMA time?
No its not........maybe for air......not for max clocks on cold though bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
F3L is better for NB clocking......I have had chips up to 5100 NB bootable.
Here's 4700 on a retail.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...0bench%205.JPG
Here we go took me a while to dig this out of my archives but.........F3L bios.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/blah/Ln2/High%20Nb.JPG
Crap! :eek2: 5100 CPU-NB!!
Heh there's lots of stuff I do that I don't actually post zeus ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
5100 Nb is sickkkkkkkk, wow very very nice. So is NB speed all dependent on the chip itself ? or chip and board ? , how much of a factor is the board play to hitting that kind of speed, or just nb speed in general. Worse thing i did was get rid of my Gig UD5P.
Chip/board/bios .Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
Thanks :)
hi there i have a small question is it normal to get 56 c on the motherboard temp i usualiy its arround 36c on idle using the stock cooler from gb but the temp is that high playing games does not matther if its 2.6nb or 3.0 whith some voltage for achiving that speeds on the NB but normal voltages overall for that king of speed on the nb
thanks in advance
Hey guys I wanted to add some active cooling to my mobo (I probably dont need it with the 4 x 120mm side zalman fans but you know how we are so, where do you think the mobo could use fans to help OCing?
Pics are very welcome. :-)
Trying to install W7-64 on OCZ Agility 60Gb 1.5fw.
If I switch bios to AHCI then my sata optical drive disappears. Can I move the optical drive's sata cable to the white sata ports and switch them to IDE mode?
Thanks
Pretty much everything from the pcie slot and up. PWM's, cpu socket/ram area :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolin95
Yup, that's pretty much what they are intended for :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by PagenII
shaolin95 - I mounted a 250mm fan on the side. Covers area from cpu cooler to bottom of MB. It is very quiet, moves plenty of air. And an Antec spot fan over the ram.
wez- Thanks, I tried the top (4&5) blue ports for dvd and XP drive first as IDE (they are configurable seperately) with the SSD on blue port 0 as AHCI to get running again. Those horizontal ports are hard to get to in the mid tower case it is in. Had to use chopsticks ha ha. Will try again. Was hoping to be able to leave the XP as IDE and run W7 as AHCI without reinstalling XP.
Thanks
can you post a link for F3L bios please?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
i have, few pages backQuote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
here
http://premium1.uploadit.org/bobbybo...d5pbiosf3l.zip
Hey... I think i corrupted the bios, or fried my PII 955 I was wondering if someone could maybe point me in the right direction here. I was OCing last night and saved some settings and my computer hasn't posted since. I don't think that I killed my CPU, I was around 3.8 Ghz, and I've had it over 4.1 before. Anybody know how I could try to repair the bios for this board, or get a better idea of what's wrong? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I tried repairing it through a floppy as per http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...47&postcount=8, but that's 2 years old and there might be a better way now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Balb0wa
Thanks, I've been following and reading the thread since the beggining and I couldn't find it before.
Greetings everybody!
I own this motherboard as well, but I'm having weird problems with it. I get every 2-3 weeks a weird BSOD in Win7 64bit with physical memory dump. The PC won't automatically reboot and when i reset it it doesn't boot back into win7 64 bit any longer. I'm using a raid 0 made of 2 WD Velociraptors. It seems that the raid is rendered unable to boot, but i cannot seem to comprehend why this happens. It always hangs and will not go past the point where the raid rom appears and the message "update dmi to something... ". I've already tried repairing the install but to no avail. When loading the raid drivers it manages to detect the raid area, but curiously, it is assigned with letter E or F even though it should be actually drive C.
My Bios version is F8c,the latest posted by Gigabyte on their site.
My config is Gigabyte MA790FXT UD 5P with Bios F8c, Phenom II 965@stock with Scythe Zipang 2, 4x2 GB Kingston HyperX CL 8 @ stock (1333), Palit 9800GT Green @ stock, X-fi Titanium, 2 WD Veliciraptors in RAID0 and WD 1.5 TB Green, Asus SATA DVD Burner, floppy drive, CoolerMAster 1000W PSU, Razer Copperhead, Saitek Eclipse II, Win 7 64 bit
The BSOD shows up when gaming NFS shift, Bioshock2, Mass Effect2, but also when running 3d mark Vantage benchmark.
I got this error in vista 64 as well. I must point out that i also update the bios successively to F7 and then F8c. Unfortunately both updates could be only performed in windows, due to the fact that q-flash didn't recognize my usb stick.
I'm starting to grow desperate because it is very annoying to install windows every 15 days, losing my save games etc.(I'm at the 5th reinstall due to BSOD followed by messed up raid boot since November when i got this motherboard).
What is the exact and proper setting for q-flash to detect my usb stick?
Is it because of the bios? Could someone please give me the proper raid drivers for win7 64bit?
Should i go back to bios F6?
In bios it says i have the secondary bios F5. How can i load it as a primary Bios in order to get it to factory settings, would this help?
I've run Memtest 3.2 for about 8 hours and 6 passes with no errors, so i think i could rule out any ram issues.
I've also tested the setup in amd overdrive for about 1 hour by running the stability test; there were no issues detected.
Could someone post the boot option for usb stick, so that it can be seen by q-flash and i mange to update via q-flash and not windows. Please help me, because I'm getting trouble every 2 weeks with my setup. My Win7 64 bit is trial version, it doesn't even get near the trail expiration date.
Thank you in advance for your kind support.
Well it seems Gigabyte is not going to give this board full support. What a shame the pace it's taking them to just release a minor update to BIOS.
I guess that isnt much to be fixed in F8C, bios seems pretty solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nvidia256
no cold bug, no wrong voltage, unlockable, all the setting we need..
but they left the beta version of the last bios? thats a shame.
they may release a bios when the hex cores come out, dont panic
Can anybody help me?Quote:
Originally Posted by sprach
sprach, I recently had a problem with random reboots, slow loading of tray items, occasional crash etc gradually getting worse till screen corruption.. Turned out to be weight of Vcard in top slot effecting something in slot or MB. Went away if I laid computer on it's side motherboard side down. Won't hurt to try. Make sure optical drives are empty first.
Are your raptors healthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by sprach
Good enough airflow over SB and NB?
Small voltage bump for cpu-nb, and ht/sb might help.
@ PaganII - I currently own a 9800gt green edition which is not that heavy like my former 4870x2, so I think we could rule out weight stress on the motherboard as a source of BSOD, BSOD happened with both cards inserted.
@ wez - Velociraptors are healthy; they never showed any signs of weakness/hiccups, there are no slow downs. I've used them without any issues with an Asus M3A32MVP Deluxe mobo.
Coming to your 2nd question, I think the airflow over SB and NB is decent enough, having regard to the fact that my case is outfitted with 7 vents, i.e. 1 front intake, 1 side intake, 2 bottom intakes, 1 rear exhaust, 2 top exhausts.
I have tried many options regarding small OC, like minor voltage bump for CPU-NB, and HT/SB, but it seems I haven't found the proper settings, I guess...
Funny thing is that I'm currently running my system build with all settings at stock speeds and I haven't been having any BSOD since my last re-install as of 2 months. That means I left everything on AUTO, but only those settings concerning OC and/or voltage settings. It seems my 4 sticks of Kingston HyperX won't run at their advertised speed and latency of 1600 @ CL8 which is in fact a specific Intel setting. Stock setting with these memory sticks are reported by BIOS as 1333 CL9, so that's how I'm running the timings right now. I guess performance boost isn't that much of improvement so I'd rather keep the system stable than risking other BSOD's.
To conclude it's like this, no OC equals stability, even the slightest OC (for instance running the XMP profile of 1600 CL8, it must have something to do with the Phenom II CPU being able to officially support only 1333 by its memory controller - what exceeds this setting being treated automatically as OC) means BSOD, even if it happens every 2-3 weeks (but that still doesn't make me feel secure regarding my system's stability).
Thank you again for your input and I’m looking forward for any other suggestions.
Wez, would you be so kind and post the detailed BIOS settings used/recommended by you? Thanks in advance.
Hi sprach, Turns out it was not the Gigabyte board problem! When my new power supply arrived I ran crossfire in the Asus rig and same thing happened even though the MB was horizontal on the table. My problem is 1 of the HIS 4870s. Mixed them up troubleshooting and tested the same card twice ha ha. If I push on it at just the right spot then everything is normal. Better luck to you.
did you did a proper format to the 2 raptors ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sprach
if no that could be the problem , dont do quick format when you install windows if its in raid format the raid partion fully , also if your still having the problem at the moment go to run comand and type msconfig select booting and use safe mode whith minimal option before you restart go to your win drive and select properites and use both options on the check disk then restart it should resolve your problem
will gigabyte do a bios for the x6 cpus for this motherborad?
No doubt about it :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Balb0wa
Ok, when? now is timeQuote:
Originally Posted by wez
Patience, the chips aren't officially out yet :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
but they are in hong kong etc, and gigabyte have updated a few of there other bioses for the chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by wez
GA-MA790FXT-UD5P - BIOS F8f - 06.Apr 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
-Support for AMD X6 CPU
thanks but theres nothing on giga siteQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
insnt this for the UD5 ?
UD5 is on BIOS F3....,UD5P on BIOS F8....Quote:
Originally Posted by MD]{
Not every beta BIOS appear on Giga site(yet).:yepp:
yeat thats right , i have a litle thing bothering me that is the fact that even the new bios for the UD5 says on the CPU suport list 1055T and down does not mention the 1090T ! is this bios for suporting all X6 cpu whith this steping (incluiding the 1090T) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
cheers
I got this info only:
-Update AGESA 3.7.0.0 for AMD 6core CPU
sweet ass dudes, most probably there is no problem for 1090 also, only cause chipsets OC worse, that doesnt mean it wont support stock or even clocked settings
can someone please send me a x6 CPU to try it now?
ok was any one installd this bios yet !? becouse my specs on the sig are whith 1.42Vcore and 1.160 on the NB for going 3.0 on the NB and 4.0 on CPU i need 1.5 on Vcore and 1.280 for on the NB
and now its doing 4.0mhz at 1.47 vcore and 3.0 at NB 1.180
i did 25 loops at crysis bench 1920X1080 16XQ DX10
and about 20 minuts of prime and no crashes what so ever
gona do some tests and post something
this new bios is working fine
for me
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD]{
how much better will the new mobo's be in comparison to the old ones? what are you guys anticipating? in short what will i get out of upgrading my mobo to the ud7 for eg
Ok this is funny.,..thats quite a drop in volts for the same OC...are temps any better as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by MD]{
Beefier power circuits, slightly better oc capability, sata 6.0, usb 3.0 on some boards, and ofc.. its new!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtemel
Without measuring the actual voltage, and efficiency, its hard to draw any real conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mav2000
Edit: Sorry for the double
I'm using it from yesterday, upgrade from F7, besides cpu core control from F8c no other difference to report, everything looks and behaves the same but I did not spend much time with it
i think i ll have to stick with my old 1 for now as im skint :< i m really gona try scrape up some cash for a new thurban 6 core tho :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wez
MA790XT-UD4P - F8d
-support for Phenom II x6 processors
-09.April 2010
(sorry guys,I don't know where to post)
great job stasio
the temps are the same but its HOT here in the last days and before its was freaking cold so it could be becouse of that the temps are the same
but iam gona do some more testing
I used the link to get the F8f bios here in this thread. I am able to run 4ghz @ 1.45v. I was running 1.5v with F3L. I couldn't update my OCZ Black RAM with the profile. I had to import the settings from a xml file I exported from F3L. This worked great and set the RAM permantly in the bios. Been Crunching at almost 24hrs on this bios so far. Seems pretty stable. Can't wait to put a x6 on here.
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/WCG-4.0ghz.jpg
Hmm, seems too good to be true tbh...
I know, but I have no reason to lie. Still rolling @ 1.45v. I did notice though, It will over volt for less than a sec every 5 minutes. Might happen more often, not sure. It goes so quickly. I tried to watch it and see if it was constant.
Wooooww much faster boot time w/ SSD drives now. Might be the new Agesa right? Using Microsoft AHCI Win7 64 standard driver.
You noticed faster "Scaning Drives" time with F8f ? Newer RAID ROM is probably the reason. F7 has 3.0.1540.47, F8f is .59Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
For me in raid i noticed tremendous differences in boot time.
I don't now exactly, my setup still doing same score in win7 grade, 7.4 for the disk.
But boot time went down to about 2 or even 3 times faster. Now it just shows the win7 logo an displays the desktop ready to use instantly. (using kaspersky and bluetooh device)
I will run a crystalmark to see if there is any difference.
Hello again!
1. Does the new Bios F8f provide any improvements? Does it really shorten boot time?
2. How do i update the Bios using q-flash (I'd like to avoid @Bios and i don't have a functional floppy drive)? Q-flash doesn't seem to recognize my usb stick, i can only select the floppy disk drive.
3. What is the Bios option to boot from an USB stick?
4. What are the proper Bios settings to run my 4 sticks of Kingston HyperX at their advertised speed and latency of 1600 @ CL8? Could you indicate the exact settings that i should change in Bios for this to run without any BSOD's ?
5. What are the proper Bios settings to run an OC on my P II 965 rev. C2 (the infamous 140W TDP one)? Could you indicate the exact settings that i should change in Bios for this to run without any BSOD's ?
For points 2-5 a description detailed as much as possible (some screen captures would be awesome) is warmly welcome, since I'm inexperienced in respect of OC'ing, I guess because I'm afraid of those dreaded BSOD's ruining my Raid 0 setup.
Thanks a lot for your understanding and for your support.
Thanks for the link to the latest beta BIOS. I just got a 1090T in my hands and about to test. I'll post some screens/photos once I'm done :)
http://thenine.ca/phenom%20II%20x6%20-%201090T.png
Looking good so far. Actually running 10C cooler than my 955BE :O
wich cooler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
Just a crappy Sunbeam Core Contact cooler. :D It works quite well for the $20 I paid for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
nice! lets overclock it NOW! and please send me one of those...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
About to run some tests.
Got into windows @ 4.01GHz/2.8GHz NB.
Vcore: 1.425
v-NB: 1.425
About to run prime on it, OCCT doesn't show all 6 cores, but loads all six.
http://thenine.ca/phenom%20II%20x6%2...z%20-%2001.png
Meh, It's like I thought, I must have a crappy board. My Old 955 BE could barely do +400Mhz on OC, this chip is a bit better but not prime stable @ 4.0GHz. Can't really bump vCore much more since my cooler can't really keep up with that much heat :D
What about the maximum undervolt for 3.2Ghz? idle & load temps.
I'll try undervolting in a bit. Still playing with OCing this chip.
the error on prime is not CPU related its from the NB and memory try puting the NB at 2.7 or 2.6 using voltage 1.160 1.180 at the NB and more 200 at the CPU/NB voltage and that error should go away and doing that bump the multi of the CPU for 4.2 and you should be fine and put the memory at 800 and leave the fsb at 200 for now try it like this and it should work good they when you see the parts that need more V you can raise your OC
cheers
I'm wondering which programs benefit of 6 cores. Photoshop?
EDIT: I've got the F8g BIOS update (for Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P)! Fast as hell!
link to bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelmou
I've just uploaded it. It comes from Gigabyte Support.
Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SM37GKYW
thankyou
just tried the F8g on my board. odd thing is the default vcore is too high 1.475v and I can't seem to disable my Cool n Quiet(mine still downclocks to 800 even if it is disabled)
The default vCore has "2 states" in a sense. What I've noticed is that sometimes it reads 1.475 (which is the vCore it'll use when it's automatically OCing the cores for single threaded tasks). The other one you'll see is when all cores are fairly equally loaded. To set both (at least with the F3L bios I'm using) I have to crash the OC so that motherboards crash free bios kicks in. It's kinda strange.
so i have to crash my overclock to get the crash free bios to work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Pain
Stasio: would you start similar "Latest Gigabyte BIOS" thread for Gigabyte´s AMD motherboards that you have at Tweaktown?
BIOS F7 was doing exact the same, except for that the default was set at 1.4V (stock = 1.35V)Quote:
Originally Posted by jprovido
I'll try to explain a bit better, and mind you this is just from observing what my board/bios have done while i've played around with the f8f/g bioses.Quote:
Originally Posted by jprovido
Everything below is assuming you are leaving the Core Performance option on (it changes if you turn it off).
On my first bootup vCore was set to auto, which was 1.475. Consider this the "upper end". This vCore will ONLY be used when the CPU is automatically OCing 1-3 cores for higher performance.
The other vcore 1.325 for my chip is what's used when all cores are loaded. The only way I was able to change this setting was to set my OC to high to force a crash, and then turn off/on the computer so that the crash free bios would kick in. It would then let me change the 1.325 voltage setting.
Hope this makes sense :P
^
thanks for the help :)
btw ive overclocked my 1090T to 4ghz and at the present its been running at prime95 for 3 hours now. should i consider this as stable already and move a notch more?
http://img3.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spi...68266_full.png
sure, stop the test and see if it idle freezes etc. Then I'd say it is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by jprovido
you have to disable the turbo clock feature its in the bios turn it off and does not downclock any moreQuote:
Originally Posted by jprovido
iam using the F8F seen the gigabyte site theres a F8H is it any better ?