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Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Seriously, you have visited the wrong forum dude, go hang out at cnet or pcmag forum or something, you'll definitely find your type over there.
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:rolleyes: :cord:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
Seriously, you have visited the wrong forum dude, go hang out at cnet or pcmag forum or something, you'll definitely find your type over there.
Don't feed the troll! Last time I checked Anandtech tested a retail D0 which they can get stable at 4.3~4.4Ghz all day long:Quote:
Originally Posted by devsk
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=584
This is killing me! I was an early adopter, two weeks after release actually. I was coming off an Opty 165 rig so this was a massive upgrade. However, the numbers from these D0's are great. I can get my C0 920 to 4.2Ghz at 1.4vcore with HT on, 1.36v HT off. But, it must be noted that I use my rig EXCLUSIVELY for gaming. Nothing else. Basically a $2500 Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
So, do any of you think it's worth it to upgrade to 2000Mhz RAM and a D0 stepping(while incurring the wife's wrath) or just stand pat and wait until the new GPU's hit? I realize that this is off-topic but it's a minor diversion.
My advice would be its not worth it. If you can tolerate the heat (with a good cooler like Prolimatech Mega), use 4.2 24x7 (1.4 vcore is OK). In games you won't notice much difference from 4.2 to 4.4 or even 4.0 to 4.4. Your video card is more important there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic Satch
And for games, turn HT off. May be you can push 4.3 or 4.4 with HT off and same volts and temps.
Going for a D0 and higher b/w RAM is probably not a great idea. But its your money...:D
I have it under H20 so temps aren't a concern. And yeah, I usually keep HT off because it serves absolutely no purpose in the games I play. I was thinking along the same lines as you all along but I just wanted to solicit some input. In my world, more money spent on PC equals less fellatio from wife. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by devsk
Hi,
well, no matter what you're saying here, criticizing ASUS for fixing HD compatibility issues is dumb, you'd be the first one to slap them in the face too if your harddrive was affected. Apparently they just can't please you either way.
And frankly, 3.8 GHz on my machine aren't exactly normal overclocking, nor are they stock... :down:
At all the xtremeism that I don't mind at all, some common sense should be used!
Could someone assist me please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Thank you
@ Burner27
You can try to set QPI/DRAM at 1.35v which is the maximum safe voltage according to Intel specifications and set the DRAM voltage to 1.64 or 1.66.
I have set QPI/DRAM at 1.35v in my motherboard from first day that i bought it and i don't have any problems until now. I have this system running for 5 months now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mak1skav
Thanks for the information. 2 questions:
You say you don't have any problems 'until now'. Does that mean you are having problems or are you saying you are not?
If I enable the XMP profile on my mobo for the memory, it sets the QPI/Dram to 1.35v and the DRAM voltage to 1.66v. When I use Asus' TurboV to monitor the QPI/DRAM voltage, it says it is 1.375v. Since there is no way to check in the BIOS what the current status of the QPI/DRAM voltage is reading, I have to rely on what I set it to (or in this case what the XMP profile sets it to).
What should I do?
I was just contacted by an Asus rep who told me about a bios version that won't be generally released. It has a new feature. The ability to disable Turbo throttling on the Asus P6T Deluxe.
Are there any enthusiasts here that would be interested in getting their hands on something like that? :D
Here's some of the info I received:
"The attached file is the modified BIOS of P6T Deluxe. It disables the "CPU Turbo Power Limit" when the user manually sets the AI-tuner configuration.
We will not release this BIOS because it may affect the life time of user's motherboard & CPU.
If you still have to provide test BIOS for other models, please let me know."
It looks like Asus does care about their Xtreme customers and all of the complaining has finally paid off. I'll let you guys know when I find out more info. Time to head to EBay first and pick up any P6T Deluxe boards that frustrated Xtreme users are trying to dump. :rofl:
Update: So far the only new bios available with this feature is for the Asus P6T Deluxe v1. They plan to try and add this feature to a few more of the P6T series.
Turbo throttling is there for a reason, to protect both the CPU and the VRM. For that reason, they don't plan to add this feature to the bios versions in their normal download area. This is going to be more like a modded bios designed specifically for the XS types. Hopefully Juan Jose from Asus can drop by here and post some more info. He finally made it into XS so give him a thumbs up and a big welcome if he drops by for trying to get this issue fixed.
Count me in!Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
I'll give it a go as well. This could be a result of the emails and contact I recently had with Asus regarding this and all the links I gave them for appropriate threads here on extremesystems forums. I have the P6T-D v1 so YEAAAAAAH. ;)
I will probably give it a shot as well.
The first batch of XS testers have been contacted.
Now let's see some results. :)
I also would like to try it ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
I would like to test it out....PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME IN! I don't care about the risk of shortening lifespan of the board or cpu!! :D
GOOD NEWS!! Initial test shows that the multiplier throttling is eliminated with this modded BIOS, furthermore....I have the V2 board which I cross-flashed to this modded V1 BIOS and it work! no problem so far. Hallelujah!! :woot:
Now, with this throttling feature removed and running at full OC speed, I will need to fine tune and bump up the vcore, vtt and possibly other parameters to keep it stable at the intend OC speed, further testing of stability is underway.
unclewebb, you are the man! big thanks to you, and kudo to Asus for listening to the XS community! :worship: :worship:
Before:
http://bcphoto.org/misc/turbo/before.jpg
After:
http://bcphoto.org/misc/turbo/after.jpg
4.4 GHz + 1.440 volts + 21.000 Multiplier = Awesome! :up:
On a side note, the BIOS layout is the same as before and I do not see this feature being an option to let the tester turn it on or off at will. It's safe to assume that the throttling is automatically being disable when I set the AI to Manual mode, maybe down the road it can be implemented into a newer revision of this modded BIOS. I cranked up the voltage more just to see if the throttling still stand, so far so good. 1.464v @4.4Ghz and 21x multiplier is sticking....this kicks ass!
Prime95 with new i7turbo 6.1:
http://bcphoto.org/misc/turbo/after2.jpg
FYI, the motherboard temperature is showing 39'C in Everest eventhough all four cores are at 86/86/89/89 loading under Prime95. The VRM/NB/SB heatsink doesn't appear to run any hotter than before but I have good airflow in the case and I'm running the VRM fan that came with the mobo as well, I'll keep an eye on the temperature just incase. With this modded BIOS, I no longer have the desire to try the Gigabyte or Classified mobo. :lol:
I'm sure when the Asus rep drops by and has a look at this forum he won't mind hearing that.Quote:
With this modded BIOS, I no longer have the desire to try the Gigabyte or Classified mobo.
Anyone else interested in picking up a board that performs like ben's board is performing then line up here. :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131365
Today, a good board just became a great board.
I hate you uncle! You do this just about when I sell my Asus P6T V2 mobo and get an EVGA X58! Not fair man! You should have done this 3 weeks ago. I hate you man.....:D...j/k
But I am already doing 4.4Ghz on my evga...so, I am good...:D
When is the likelyhood that this BIOS release will be available to other XS forumites?;)
My PC froze just as I took my last screenshot. There is nothing that I can display that will top ben805's. Let me just say that NO, there is no thermal throttling. I jacked my vcore to 1.44v and ran 200x21. According to the Turbo proggy, I throttled back within 30 seconds under Intel Burn Test with 1504. With the new BIOS and absolutely identical settings, no throttling whatsoever. However, my PC froze before I could get the screenie.
But, like I said, I couldn't top Ben's screenie anyways. And there is NO separate setting in the BIOS for the thermal throttling. I just disabled the usual CPUTM feature.
This is all Movieman's fault. The Asus rep has been waiting for weeks to get his new XS membership approved so he could contact me. The XS secret society isn't an easy place to get into. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by devsk
wez3570: You have mail. :)
According to Juan Jose from Asus,
"It disables the "CPU Turbo Power Limit" when the user manually sets the AI-tuner configuration"
No separate bios option needed. It just works!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic Satch
It is because now you're running at TRUE OC speed. Therefore, you'll need to up the voltage accordingly to keep the higher OC stable. Anyone who get to test this modded BIOS need to keep that in mind.
Before the modded BIOS With throttling, my previous 4.40Ghz @1.40v (210 x21 in BIOS) = 4.20Ghz (210 x20) in reality after being throttle down. Now with the modded BIOS, what I OC'ed is what I get, therefore, the extra 200mhz that I gain needed 1.47v to be prime/linx stable, which is to be expected. As uncleweb stated in the warning document in the BIOS package, use this modded BIOS at your own risk, people need to keep an eye on the underload temperature and don't blame anyone if one get too excited and end up frying the board or the cpu. :D
I tested the EVGA x58 and returned it 3 days later, maybe I had a defective unit but it really sucked! I'm just glad I stick around with the Asus, now with this modded BIOS a good board has transform into a great board as uncleweb stated! :up: :up: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by devsk
Hi!
I would like to try it in my RIG also... can u send it to me?
mcbacker@gmail.com
Thanks!
Hello unclewebb,
I would like to try it on my P6T-Deluxe mobo.
Thanks a lot!
bobov
McBaker: Can you post a screen shot of your computer Turbo throttling? That's when the Calculated Multiplier starts dropping below 21.000 at full load. If you are at 4 GHz with 1.25 volts then it's not likely that you are experiencing any turbo throttling so you don't need this bios.
Post a screen shot of i7 Turbo and CPU-Z while running Prime95 or LinX.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip
Edit: Make sure you have private messages (PM) turned on so I can contact you. ;)
No i don't have any problems at all with my settings. Personally i am not using XMP profile but i set QPI/DRAM voltage and DRAM voltage manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
If Asus Probe says 1.375v then maybe you can try and set QPI/DRAM voltage to 1.325v in Bios and see if Asus Probe says 1.35v then.
I set it to 1.3v and it still register 1.375v. It's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by mak1skav
Here is a classic example of Turbo throttling at full load.
PM me a screen shot like that and I will be happy to share this beta bios. Testing is still in progress.
We have to keep things low key so Asus will be encouraged to release this fix for the rest of their P6T line of motherboards.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/389...throttling.jpg
Thanks greenblood82. :up:
is there gonna be a bios for P6T (regular) that also doenst do turbo throttling ? and maybe when?
thanks,
infected_
That all depends on Asus. Hopefully some positive feedback on this forum will encourage them to release a few more of these for the rest of the P6T motherboards.
Juan Jose (JJ) is the Asus rep and has just joined XS. If this is an important feature to you then let him know.
illuminatiASUS
greenblood82 is new to XS but doesn't have posting privileges yet so I thought I'd post how he made out.
Looks like another happy guy with the new 0007 bios.
Interesting observation about what Everest reports.
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http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8...throttling.jpg
Hi there it's me again,
I just flashed the new bios and did some testing.
I upped the vcore a few notches higher than before and let LinX run for half an hour.
The result: no throttling at all. Multiplier always stays at 21 when under load and thats with higher vcore and higher temps than before.
One thing I noticed is that everest now shows the power value of the cpu at about half of what it has been before.
With the old bios it was around 90 watts under load and now it reads around 46 watts. So I think they modified the 0007 bios to trick the cpu so that it thinks it's running at half the power and thats what makes it not throttle anymore.
Probably so, Mine is also reading half the value at only around 65W underload instead of 130W where it usually display with previous BIOS. I'm curious what the R2E would display with the throttling turned off...Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
If I remember correctly, the throttling kicked in base on a combination of parameters, in everest the motherboard temperature is constantly below 40C under heavy load, about 10C lower than before, so I think this modded BIOS probably changed a combination things to achieve this.
thanks unclewebb. already sent him a pm. :)
I'm thinking of going with this package:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.203779
any thoughts? Also, where can I get my hands on this beta bios =)?
rfisher983: PM me a screen shot of your CPU turbo throttling and I will send beta bios 0007 your way. This bios is only designed for the v1 boards. Cross flashing your v2 board with this bios is at your own risk. You might want to contact Asus and ask them to release a few more of these bios versions to cover the rest of their P6T motherboards.
The contact info for the XtremeSystems Asus rep is listed 3 posts before yours.
Nice package by the way that you're looking at. :up:
This modded BIOS has been rock stable so far, no problem whatsoever 10 1/2 hours into Prime at 4.40Ghz @1.47v, 21x multiplier is still sticking. :yepp: Check out the unusually low CPU power usage and the Motherboard temperature from everest. :lol:
http://bcphoto.org/misc/turbo/after3.jpg
ben805: You have clearly proven that the modded bios is a keeper. Time to share with the masses.
P6T Deluxe v1
Version 0007
Date 06/10/2009
Edit: version 0007 has been replaced by 0006
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?00qfon2wlkd
WARNING: Use of this bios is at your own risk and may reduce the life of either your CPU, VRM, motherboard or all three.
Use of this bios is strictly at your own risk and may void your warranty.
Enjoy! :D
59.31 watts for 8 threads of Prime at 4.4 GHz and 1.472 volts is a hell of a deal.
Maybe they'll start putting these things in laptops. :rofl:
I'm curious can anybody check the reported power usage on a different brand of motherboard that does not turbo throttle?
For comparison, xpatar on the i7 Turbo thread posted a screen shot of Everest when he was hitting the Turbo throttling wall with the previous bios.
It showed 125.50 watts when he was at 4.0 GHz with 1.464 volts while Turbo throttling.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=80
rge also posted some nice numbers for comparison here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...52&postcount=5
With a Gigabyte board and an early bios, he used to start to turbo throttle at about 110 watts according to Everest.
After they fixed that, he was pushing 224 watts with 1.49 volts at 4.3 GHz according to Everest with his i7-940.
I haven't found any information in the Intel documentation concerning CPU watts so I'm not sure what this number really means or how a bios can manipulate what is reported.
What makes me wonder is that turbo throttling happens only with 21 multi.
It doesn't happen if you use the 20 multi which needs higher bclk values and more voltage in order to achieve a decent oc. That results in higher power consumption, higher current usage but no turbo throttling. I managed to achieve a stable oc @ 4.2 GHz with no turbo throttling but that was due to better cooling which resulted in lower temps.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=103
What's really going on with 21 multi?:shrug:
The 20 multi is not using turbo mode so no turbo throttling.
An i7-920 has a default multi of 20. It can only go beyond that with the help of the Turbo boost feature. When you select the 21 multi in the bios, it automatically uses the turbo feature of the CPU to get that +1 boost from 20 to 21.
I just pm to illuminatiASUS.
Many thanks to unclewebb for his great work on that issue.:up:
I love this modded BIOS...best ever release by Asus! yea the low CPU power usage is funny, in reality it was probably closer to 300W. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
thanx goes to the creator and all that has tried and share it with all of us.:up:
I have just got round to using another P6T Deluxe board I purchased around the time they first became available here in the UK. It has the 0703 bios rev installed. Now I've had it running for a few days now without any specific problems as such, apart from having to disable Express Gate.
Would updating it introduce any problems that I'm not experiencing at the mo, other than Express Gate. I'm just curious to know before I do, lol.
Also looking at the Asus site, I find no mention of this bios either.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...xe0703BIOS.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Agian a BIG Thank You to you Kevin for spearheading this. I can confirm that the new 0007 BIOS has solved the throttling problem on this board!!
I almost gave up on this board and was about to try other alternatives. If it was'nt for this MB being so rock stable since day 1, (except for this the throttling issue), i would've jumped shipped much earlier on. But now all is good - absolutely stoked.
Again, thanks to Kevin (Unclewebb), Ben, rge, Movieman, and all the rest who stuck it out with all of us. :clap::clap::clap:
ps. what program do you use to check for wattage readings? How much watts would the 920 be pulling say at 4.4ghz 1.38v?
Awsome that the throttling problem has been resolved. Hoping for a similar BIOS to the P6T "Vanilla" motherboard aswell. :)
Hoping won't get it done. I'd start by contacting the Asus rep here on XS and let him know that this is a problem for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane
illuminatiASUS
The modded bios that misreports the watts is a very simple way to fix this issue. By tricking what the CPU reports for power consumption, it doesn't trigger the turbo throttling anymore. A fix like this doesn't take a lot of additional programming so if enough users request it then maybe it will get done.
0007 is a special bios for the Xtreme guys at XS. Most regular users don't need this but a few guys here sure do. ;)Quote:
Also looking at the Asus site, I find no mention of this bios either.
You're welcome glide 1. You can use Everest to report CPU watts. With bios 0007, it seems to report about 1/4 as much as it should be reporting.
I just got a pm from illuminatiASUS
Here is the message:
"Originally Posted by illuminatiASUS
Hello
Currently we have released a test bios to resolve this issues on the standard P6T deluxe and are working on seeing if we will release any additonall bios for the P6T series for this issue. Due to is being something that will not be an offical bios release we have to factor in multiple aspects. Hopefully though we will release an update build for all P6T boards ( the rampage boards are not affected due to having a superior desing and will have it the feature in an released bios build ). Please enjoy the rest of your day."
Great news, just great news!!!!!
And p6t6 ws revo :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
which is why i gave up on my P6T.
I have the best board block with mosfet block on it, and now its only acting as a HTPC while a classy is on my main. :P
But its nice to hear the throttling problem is resolved.
you should see what voltage u need for both HT ON and leave it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic Satch
Just disable HT when you dont need it without having to mess with voltages.
If your running a D0 you'll notice its not much of a vcore and Vtt tweek for HT ON.
Yes this 0007 bios work great.....
well maybe someone lost $30:D:D
LOL
If the asus tech or his engineer would accept my $30 as I promised to donate to whomever can hack the BIOS....I would gladly pay it, that's a small price to pay to get rid of this problem. :D
Hey Ben, Have you measured the voltages with a DMM to see if the actual voltages passed to the chip are actually the same as what is claimed in the BIOS and by Windows utilities. I don't remember if Asus P6T has voltage probe points on board. I was measuring my voltages with DMM on the EVGA X58 board and what I found was astonishing. Whatever was being shown by BIOS and Eleet/HWmonitor was way higher than what was being passed to the chip e.g. for my 4.32Ghz clock under load, vcore is shown as 1.41 but only 1.376 is being passed, vtt is shown to be 1.40 but only 1.24 (:eek::shocked:) is being passed, DDR is being shown as 1.71 but only 1.63 is being passed. I think this was the reason why you gave up on the evga board real quick. It wasn't really passing enough voltages (VTT particularly, 160mV discrepancy is unforgivable and VTT is the most important voltage in i7 world) although it was showing it was passing high voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
I would like to see those DMM numbers for your 4.4Ghz clock if you can get them from Asus P6T V2. Possible?
PS: 4.32 is the clock where I am still under Intel's spec limits for factory (1.35 VTT and 1.375 vcore). That's an astonishing thought! i7 rules! 920 D0 even more!
there isn't any probe points on the P6T Deluxe like those on EVGA so I'm not sure where to measure the voltage with DMM. When I had the EVGA x58 SLi I have tried many different combination of setting, at one point I was pushing the vcore up to 1.55v (within Intel's safty range) and vtt to 1.60v, vdimm I had it between 1.65~1.70v in BIOS, dang thing just keep crashing and BSOD no matter what, after couple days of frustration I returned it.
nice! )
i have tried this bios and it works fine on my deluxe (have to change mobo to rampage - tired of Turbo throttling and xeon 3520 arrived - 20x is toooo small for it =))
but i noticed 1 problem. on 1504-1606 official - there is no problem with "cold boot" - i power on my system and it boots and works fine, but with 0007 - i need to press reset after 2-3sec of power on, because monitor shows nothing - just black screen. i remember that such problem was in first old bioses, later it was fixed.
and i have a question - is it really to make such bios (with turbo throttling FIX) for P6T WS mobo? Deluxe and WS are just identical, but i like WS more =)
some offtopik:
is EVGA Classified and Rampage mobo's really have an ability to set CPU on higher BCLK's than Deluxe mobo can? or it always fully depends of CPU? and what about dealing with memory and high speeds with tight timings? such a 2000-7-8-7 and so on? should the deluxe work fine if CPU uncore part "can" or this is unique to current "top" mobos such as classified?
i tried many 920 С0 and 2 940 C0 on Deluxe - none of them can hanlde even 2000-9-9-9 (have a HCF0 kit from kingston) - even on 1.65 on QPI/DRAM. may be it's CPU uncore limitation... but i think 1 of 5 tested CPU should work at 2000, but in my case - no.
sorry for my bad english =)
Hi, All!
What MoBo is better for taking for overclocking?
Another successful P6T Deluxe V2 crossflash to the V1 0007... thank you very much for pioneering this guys. I'm loving this BIOS, not only did it fix the throttle, but it also fixed my S3 resume issue! I'm saving $50 bux a month just by putting my computer to sleep when I'm not using it. :D
Still no fix for the G15 keyboard issue though; (not recognizing on boot) it turns out it is a result of having other USB devices connected that don't agree with the G15 or something... I can fix it by putting the USB to 12mbs, but I'd rather just have a PS2 keyboard hooked up as well.
Anyhow, thanks guys!
I just crossflashed successfully from 0504 V2 to 0007 V1.
Turbo throttling has been resolved and everything is working like a charm.:up:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=107
VERY NICE, that made 3 of us who crossflashed successfully without any problem. Maybe someday Asus would release the V2 version, but for now I'm very happy with the 0007 as well, it's rock solid! :D
Just as you said. 0007 is rock solid and according to illuminatiASUS there is a possibility that we could see a bios version for the V2 board.:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Hi,
My co-worker got a P6T Deluxe V2, 920 (non-D stepping, afaik), and 3 x 2GB of OCZ DDR3 1600Mhz memory (OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X1600LV6GK). He says he can't get this combo to post so far. I had him check the cpu socket pins and make sure the CPU was in the right way, and as far I know everything's fine.
I suspect the problem is the memory, since that seems to be a common problem with the Core i7 systems. I read in one place that the shipping BIOS had trouble with more than 3GB of memory (until the BIOS is updated). So I had him try single sticks in the orange slot closest to the CPU socket. He said he had no luck. I got the Qualified Vendor List from the Asus site for this motherboard, and this memory is not listed, but it's from Feb 2009.
Has anyone had any luck with this memory on this mobo? If so, does this sound like a bad memory kit? If not, what do people recommend he get? Are there further things he should look into beyond the memory? I've seen similar issues, and the recommendation is to remove anything unneeded before doing the individual mem stick tests, like remove the sound card, video card, etc...he had his video card installed when he did the mem tests. Others mention resetting the CMOS jumper or "pull the battery" and waiting a few minutes before doing each post test.
Not much else to the system specs since he didn't get it to post. He's got the 750w PS that comes with the PS-included version of the Cosmos 1000 case. He's got a EVGA GTX285 2GB video card in the PCI-Express slot closest to the CPU socket. He's using the stock cooler for now. (He says the Noctua NH-U12P doesn't fit in the P6T due to the capacitors...I suspect he didn't get the SE1366 adaptor with his order. Anyone have this experience?)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Make that four successful crossflashes.:D
Are there any other keyboard incompatibilities? I didn't know about this one (I use the Foxconn Bloodrage board myself) before I recommended my friend get the P6T Deluxe V2, and he bought the G15. He's having POST problems without the keyboard, but I'm worried he'll run into this G15 bug once he gets beyond the POST problems. So I wanted to get a head start and find other incompatible keyboards just in case. So far he doesn't have any other USB devices planned other than this keyboard though. I think he also has a Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 he could use, too, but he liked the keyboard layout/feel of the G15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckchase!
Kevin, I have the same setup except I have D0 stepping and ATI 4850 in crossfire. The OCZ Gold memory OCZ3X1600LV6GK is XTC I see no reference to XMP with mine. All I did with my setup is set tweaker to manual, the memory in bios to 8-8-8-24 and 1.64V. I am Overclocked to 4.0 with ram at 1600. Most bios settings are auto except 1.25V cpu, 1603 ram and 200 bus speed. So without any tweaking out of the box it ran fine 100% stable. I did update bios to 504. My G15 V1 keyboard needed the full speed setting to work at bootup. I hope Asus fixes that issue as I do have some high speed devices.
Thanks for the response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipeman597
This is the memory he got:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...OCZ3X1600LV6GK
It says "XMP Ready" and nothing about "Gold". I think you have different memory. Also, he's not getting as far as the BIOS screen to be able to change anything. The PS and fans come on, but that's about it. I was thinking bent CPU socket pins (or bad mobo for some other reason), bad CPU, incompatible/bad memory (especially with factory BIOS), and more remotely, some weirdness with the GPU. I'm trying to figure out how to easily figure out if he needs to send something back. I was thinking about putting my memory in his system to see if it would boot further. I've done web searches and it looks like other people have had no boot issues with his combination of hardware, so I want to start by ruling out bad memory.
OCZ reports "this is essentially the OCZ GOLD set, with XMP timings and the different heatsinks. He also said (as well as their website states) it's "optimized" for Core i7". So I guess there was some changes from my Gold set but if anything should be more optimized for I7. It would be interesting to see what timings they have changed although I haven't had any issues. As far as your MB problem I doubt it is the memory. Assuming you don't have a short somewhere hard to say what to do. Substitute what ever parts you can, maybe power up outside the case. For me I just slapped it together and it worked. Easiest build I have ever done and I have done many.
When you say the "full speed setting", how/where do you configure that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipeman597
Thx!
Yeah, I'm starting to doubt the memory too because other people are using this same combo, and when memory has been the issue it has been with one of the sticks not all three. One guy had the same combo but 12GB wouldn't boot until he got another P6T Deluxe, even though he looked at the CPU socket with a magnifying glass and didn't see any pin flaws. He was guessing there was a problem with some of the memory slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipeman597
At this point I think my friend is so irate, impatient, and DIY-unfriendly that he's going to take the parts to a system builder to figure it out, or return it all and go to a system builder and them make it. He's blaming me for the poor parts recommendations. I recommended the P6T to him because I've had issues with the Blood Rage I have and heard nothing but good things about the P6T (as well as the 920 over my 940). Unfortunately I did let him pick out the memory without checking first to see if anyone had issues with it - I did a thorough search before I got my Mushkins. And unlike me he seems to have a turnkey expectation for DIY system builds of first-gen products.:(
I don't think so; the only one I've heard of was the G15.... there may have been one guy earlier in the thread with the same problem, but I know it's relatively rare. There are alot of people with the G15 that it works fine for. It's when the G15 is used in concert with some other device. For me it's a new USB 2.0 Hub that I got.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Archibald
Here's a thread in the ASUS forums about it:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
Anyone try using the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 with the P6T Deluxe and have trouble getting it to fit because of the capacitors around the CPU? I've done lots of web searches and people mention having this combo, but I want to verify whether anything special beyond using the SE1366 adapter needed to be done to fit the in CPU socket area for mounting.
So far I can't vouch that my friend has the SE1366 adapter. I thought he could run into issues clearing the RAM if the RAM had high heatsinks, but not the mobo capacitors. That makes me suspect he didn't get the adapter or he hasn't discovered it yet in his parts pile.
what program use to monitor the PLL voltage and ram voltage and NB temp ??
I use everest ultimate version 5.02.1750 they don't show up
I had set PLL voltage to auto and ram 1.64 in bios just to make sure they don't overvolts
How do we monitor PLL voltage , memory voltage, NB temp ?? Any one please ??
everest and asus probe they just don't show these
Unfortunately, I haven't found any program that does monitor those voltages:(Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
Even Asus' own utility doesn't do it.
I'd imagine the sensor chip used on the board can't monitor those or isn't wired to do so?
I don't know how this person gets the ram , QPI and PLL voltage monitor in the Asus Probe: I don't see how anyway you can set in Asus Probe
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...08&postcount=3
regards the Sleep mode issue, last night something happened and the pc can go to sleep mode and wake up in a 1 second!.
using windows 7,
strange but i know that the reason behind this was the IDE port!
i changed my old ploxtor 16x DVD "IDE" to samsung DVD drive "SATA" and the sleep mode fixed! with the last bios "ASUS P6T D. v2"
i don't know if this will fix your problem but i think if you had an IDE Drive connected try to unplug it and try.
I'd like to know that also, I couldn't find those readings when I tried Asus probe and also could see how to get them in the options? I'll reinstall the latest version and see what I can come up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
I don't see anywhere he say's it's a P6T mobo.
Ah, good catch!Quote:
Originally Posted by r1rhyder
I just tried to install the latest version and couldn't even get it to run (Vista X64/SP2)
Besides, if Probe could read those on this board, Everest, HW Monitor, etc should also be able to as they call on the same io chip for their readings.
I tried the latest asus probe version also, but those voltages still didn't come up
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Archibald
Kevin, works fine, fits great. Plenty of room around it. I currently have my Asus P6T Deluxe V2 with the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 in a Thermaltake Armor fullsize case. Oh i'm also running 6x2 G.skill sticks of ram, no clearance issues at all. Fits great, runs silent and super cool. Wish it wasn't pink though. :D
Quick question I have my qpi v set to 1.3 will run fine with 1.29 but seems sluggish anything below I get errors in linX. Is that too high of a qpi v settings?
The highest safe voltage for qpi is 1.35 according to Intel so i guess you won't have any problems with 1.3v
P.S. I have set my QPI at 1.35v from day one without any problems.
thanks for that info mak1skav
Just got word from JJ at Asus that there is a new beta bios available for the Asus P6T Deluxe v1
"This bios still maintains the TDP disable feature but improves support for C0 stepping CPU where we found issues. Additionally there is an updated microcode for better support and options for XEON based CPUS. "
WARNING: Use of this bios is at your own risk and may reduce the life of either your CPU, VRM, motherboard or all three.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?00qfon2wlkd
They are still thinking about releasing a similar bios with the TDP disable feature for 3 other P6T boards so be patient.
Selecting a memory multiplier higher the 8x using a C0 CPU resulted in no post on reboot. A workaround was pressing the reset button.Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Only memory multipliers 6x and 8x were available when using 35x0 processors.
Both issues are now fixed.
Official BIOS versions also have the locked multiplier issue when uising 35x0 processors. An official release should be forthcoming this week or next that correct it.
What board , ws ?Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
About the w3520, will they release a bios with support for it, meaning no blocked multis and no throttling, for the P6T vanilla?Quote:
Originally Posted by unclewebb
Many thanks,
infected_
Now I've got some throttling on my non-deluxe P6T too.. It's driving me crazy. Even CPU-Z says 20x once in a while!
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/980...thorttling.jpg
I'm also asking your help with my i7 overclock.
It's running on 203x21 at 1,4125V at the moment. It's a D0 batch 3851A220.
Pushed it on my P6T with 3GB Corsair 1600-CL9. (will it overclock futher with other memory?) Cooled by a TRUE Real Copper. Temps are not an issue at the moment.
Settings so far:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8388/img9732m.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2567/img9733.jpg
I want to clock it as far as possible on safe volts. The computer is running 5 days a week for like 6-7 hours a day. Which volts should I use? (like PPL, vCore, DRAM, QPI....)
I really appreciate your help!
Jerome
thats to much vcore!! no more than 1.375v loaded on air! and you says it throttles a little?! well 203*16.57 = 3.36Ghz... start from the beginning. 133*20, and see the minimum vcore you need to run at stock speed. then start to raise bclk, and see if its stable during linx, if not raise the vcore. keep doing this until vcore is not helping stabilize. then start messing with qpiv. its not a bad idea to start using the final memorys multi right from the start of the oc. uncore and QPI keep at the lower multi. enable Load Line Calibration. CPU Amplitude, put it to +800mv. CPU/PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled. Dram Voltage = 1.66 and you can start with CPU PLL at 1.82, later you see if needed more or not. and dont use XMP Profile, put it in manual.
Why is the vcore too much? It's not getting too hot on my wrong mounted TRUE.. I'm remounting it this weekend by the way.
jesus. have you at least read the intel specs/max voltages for the i7?!Quote:
Originally Posted by jerome2710
Actually no, I didn't. Have you taken a look to a few hundred other people's who also run the i7 on 1,4V?
infected's method is sound. I run vcore at 1.3v for 4.2GHz.
I remeber that DRAM voltage 1,66V gives me warning. May I ignore that?
Thanks for your help. I didn't see your edit in time though.
1.66v for dram is safe.
can anybody conifurm this: especially now since there is a fix to the turbo throttling bios "bug"
so is there any fix for 21x multi in idle??