this was running for well over a year, its been around since 939 first came out ;) heavily abused at that. Reason for swapping, sleeved cables...........
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I know.. I was to cheap to buy one...My office has been pretty nice to me lately..free Phenom II, free PSU..I am still trying to get them to give me a Dual socket Shangai setup. I sound greety ... :p: I just loaded Windows 7 and am doin drivers now. I am curios to see RAR and other stuff that was slower on vista then on XP.
Without me having to scan sig lines...are any of you running 8 gig on this board with vista 64 bit?
If so, any issues with it, is it necessary (loaded question I know), did your timings have to slow down to get 8 to run smoothly?
I have the Mushkin Redline 8000 and was just 'thinking' of maybe getting another 2x2 set and was curious of possible issues or benefits I would gain.
Thanks
might have been ur nb biting the dust...
today i put my new waterblocks on the board (mosfets,nb and sb). when i removed the heatpipe assembly, i was like "hmm.. why did they put paste on the nb and only a thermalpad on the sb??". when i tried to clean the nb from the "paste" i realized that it wasnīt paste. there was also a thermalpad on the nb, but that thing melted away. it was hard to get off (using 94% ethyl alcohol) but it worked. iīm glad i got rid of that heatpipe thing before my board takes the same route as yours did.
there u go
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5...ocksku3.th.jpg
sorry for the bad lighting.. used my mobile and this is the best i could do with shaky hands ;)
iīll take a pic of the board completely tubed ghetto style tomorrow with a better cam.
940 AM2+
When the replacement comes in, I am going to make sure everything is good..and cooled well. I want to push this chip hard. I am playing it safe on the MA790GP-DS4H right now.. 1.48 is as high as I have pushed the V's. abd right now it is all stock but the HT and NB, running comparisons for when NDA lifts...tho my results will be obsolete with Honda guy posting numbers etc..LOL
can someone tell which bios allows you to set the lanes on the pci-express slots.
in the maul t state you change all four slots from 1x,2x,4x,8x,16x mode ??? but it shows a list of port#02-12 features.
i don't have this with bios 602.
Does anyone know of a place that sells the heatpipe assembly for these boards? or can you get them from asus?
why would u like to buy that heatpipe thing? afaik u canīt buy it seperately...
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thanks raiderman.. i had one or two of these during the operation http://www.rothaus.de/img/02biere/02_tannenz_300.JPG
:o Is that an Eheim 1046 or 1048? How does it perform? I have a 1046 but too afraid to use it, didn't think it had enough head pressure for modern waterblocks, but if it can pump through an EK supreme and all those other blocks, it can pump throguh anything! What rad you using?
Sorry for OT...
itīs an eheim hpps i.
a pump made for industrial purposes. pumps the water up to 3.1m high.
iīm using a 3x120mm rad. my water temps in the reservoir at idle are around 35°C with the fans blowing at 1200rpm. didnīt get to playing some cod5 yet to warm up the water. but i guess iīll reach 50°C then. maybe itīs time for a rad upgrade ;)
Still waiting for someone to confirm which bios is the best...its been 3 days since I post this question:shakes: Since I just got the mobo 4-5 days ago I really dont have any idea on bios??:shrug:
Because the one that came with it is modified, and i need an original to rma the board. Anyone happen to have one their willing to get rid of? Im pretty sure that this same heatpipe is used on a couple of different models, so it doesnt have to be exactly from a 79-t, seems like most of the m3as use the same heatpipe assembly.
no original cooler, no rma.
i could send u mine. but it has some bent fins on the mosfet side (stepped on it unfortunately) and the thermalpad of the nb has melted onto the nb socket. also i had to squeeze the push through pins hard, so that everyone that takes a look at the mobo would see that it has been modified.
whatīs wrong with ur board anyway?
Well Im trying to find out which one works good,maybe a more stable higher ocing bios. I dont want to flash to a bad, corrupt or problematic bios. I just had a bad bios flash with my DKA790GX, so Im a little weary now. Are you ocing?? whats the highest you got up to??
sweet.....what was your highest oc??
I have to format :( something messed up my meida center no video in window mode and overlapping flashing picture in full screen.
only way I see of fix is a whole new format.
:banana::banana::banana::banana: my board just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ted its primary pcie slot. There was a powerdown for a second and i tried to start the comp again and only blackscreen now. All the other slots work fine. And i cant use the second 16x port because my case is too small for the card in that position. :(
I just hope that the warranty works.. Damn crappy things argh!! Ffs. And the phenom 2 seems to be little crappy too what it comes to people results.
I was talking about the one review which has 33 pages, dont remember the address but perhaps you know. There seems to be very small performance gain to 9950 .. the positive thing is the OC capability yes.
Im not very sure is it ok to spend 300 euros for .. lets say 400MHz gain?
Btw does this board has 3x 16x slots? I can only get 8x from the middle one, below from the primary one. Can it give 16x with some tweaking?
Maybe you should wait for some official reviews past the launch date from say lost circuits or even anandtech? Some of their results are not consistent with what we've seen from end users,and that clock to clock comparison with Agena shows that Deneb is even slower than Agena in number of apps which is practically impossible(so the test is not quite correct).I'd expect around 8-10% better performance on average,per clock, than Agena.
Also in Greek review,Kentsfield beats Yorkfield and Nehalem is some of those tests ,so you get my point.Also the power draw test seems a bit unrealistic.Again,I'd wait for official launch and reviews from more reputable sites(not taking away anything from hwbox.gr).
As for the Mhz gain,it depends om cooling used primarily .If you can get a good air or wc kit you are set for 4Ghz,which is impossible for Agena.
The board question: I'm not sure.Maybe there are some users here at XS who own it and can confirm/deny the x16 functionality of the lower slot.I think it's a moot point since these are 2.0 PCIe and they will not bottleneck your card ,even if you have 4870X2 it should be enough.
I definitely hope that its much faster than agena, since my CPU should arrive next week. ;) Here at Finland people could have bought the phenom2 for about 3-4 days and some people do have it and tested, not very much of tests have been revealed but for example there is no difference in 3dmark2006 CPU-test at same clocks.
Well this board should give triple CF and all 16x and quadCF with 8x, am I right? But it seems that there should be all the cards in the slots to get it function like that. With only one card it gives only 8x :( edit. I was wrong, it seems to work with triple CF like this: 1x16, 2x8x.. hmpf.
Its a little pain in the ass because my plan was to change the 9950BE to another HD4850 and put up a CF, but now it doesnt seem like im doing it.. damn.
And yeah 8x 2.0 PCI-E is enough for one card.. but there is some difference when using more than one.
edit2, do anyone have any idea why my primary slot doesnt work? Or any ideas what to try to get it back online, althought i have tried so many things that I cant even imagine to try something else..
I have to wait another 2 weeks before I can order a 940, but atleast by then the prices might have dropped a bit.
Sadly I've yet to even power up my M3A79-T :( Still waiting on my test gpu to arrive.
@faior You shouldnt have any problem rma'ing the board. If the PCI slot went on it, its brand new right? So long as theirs no mods or anything, shouldnt be a problem. I wouldnt put up with a lost pcie slot, i'd have returned it the moment it happened.
I just fired up my system with an X2 4200 and 2900GT, and I must say I love this Motherboard.
Feature rich and purrs like a dream :D
I cant wait to pop a 940 in and splash some water on to OC the bugger.
Well I was wondering if i could get some help OCing my processor. My specs are in my sig. I am able to hit 3.330ghz but anything above this, it either hangs up or bsod. I am running bios 0403. my volts are up to 1.500 at a multi of 16.5 with fsb at 200. I was curious how much volts it could handle on air so i left the clock at 3.000 and bumped the volts up to 1.525 with temps maxing at 58c at full load. I am running ram at 800mhz ganged. I would love to hit 3.4 stable without water. Here are some screenies. If you need anything else as far as screen shots let me know. thxs.
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/o.../3300_load.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/o...cking/3300.jpg
It boots into windows and then shuts the power supply off after a couple of minutes. I had a small glycol spill, a few drops slipped by the oring on my block when i was taking the block off. It got suctioned down by the TIM pretty good, and the screws that hold that block together, well they dont really hold that well.
The board boots, POSTs, loads windows, then after a few minutes just shuts the power off. Voltages all look spot on from HWMonitor and the bios, temps are < 30c, and i've even had a run with temps < 0c, both cases shutdown almost nearly the same time after loading windows. I didnt time it but the subzero run did seem to last a bit longer. Someone had the idea that maybe some leftover glycol residue was in the socket. I had baked the board in the oven for a few minutes, and the socket seemed very dry, but that doesnt mean its clean. Going to try some electrical contact cleaner when i get a chance. Hopefully that solves it. Some have suggested the PSU, which is what i normally blame first, but its always performed very well. Residue on the contact points of the socket makes a sensible theory though, and i'll see what a proper cleaning does.
How to get rid of the ASUS Over Volt protection feature. I cannot boot with any more than 1.55V due to this protection feature.
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Since Phenom II processors have Advanced Clock Calibration (ACC) goodness built-in, there's no need to enable the feature in the Platinum's BIOS. You'll want to turn it on if you're using an older 65nm Phenom, though.
Source: half way down the page... http://techreport.com/articles.x/16159/6
Does bios 0602 recognise phenom 2's?
Just want to know if I have to get a new bios or not.
Yes BIOS 504 and 602 both support the Phenom II's
Thanks :D I just ordered mine.
Just wanted to know ;)
just got my 940 this morning. itīs a CACVC AC 0848FPAW
not the best stepping afaik. the ones from week 50 and above are much better i heard.
this thing doesnīt like acc at all. it only posts with acc disabled, everything else results in a no post and i have to clear cmos.
iīm playing with it for about an hour now.
200x20 does post but nothing else...
267x15 does post but reboots before loading windows
200x19@1.55v gets me into windows, but prime95 craps out after about 2mins with a bsod (uncorrectable hardware error detected)
now iīm at 200x18@1.4v and doing some stabilty tests...
maybe i need to format, cause vista is giving me that chkdsk bs everytime i restart.
I've got one of these, and I built it a couple of weeks ago with an A64 3500+ :P The 940 BE arrives tomorrow.
I've installed the various Asus software, but I suspect none of it is any use - apart from chipset drivers of course.
Does anyone have a use for PC Probe, and AI Suite etc? I've not looked into it in great detail, but I believe they install services in Windows, which I'm not a super fan of.
Finally the sound card also creates services and a memory resident thing to detect speakers etc being inserted. Since I have a set of headphones plugged in and I don't change from that I've no use for their naff services and shiny lights. Has anyone experimended paring the sound drivers down to the minimum to allow perfect functionality, but without the scrapeware and bloat?
Update your bios to 602, 504 doesn't fully support the 940.
Hey guys I got a question. When you guys overclock your phenoms and then put vista into sleep does this board BSOD or does it come out of sleep without issues?
I just did 267x15 @ 1.525v and its the first setting beyond 3.6ghz I've gotten to work at all today. Are you on air or water?
As for going to sleep, no idea. I either let my computer run or turn it off completely.
Has anyone noticed if when cool n quiet is enabled multi drops to 4???
I saw this in fudzilla, and it was oced too!
Does anyone else have trouble using high multipliers? I might just be being stupid but anything higher than 17.5 doesn't run well on my system.
iīm back from an installation marathon... even at 3.7ghz installing sp1 and updates in vista takes 3x the time the whole os install takes.
iīm on water. but everything (cpu,gfx,mobo) is cooled by a 3x120mm rad.
coretemps reach 50°C while priming.
maybe i was just using the wrong prime95 version. this happened to me when i used an old version with my 9950. i downloaded a x64 version from mersenne.org. seems to work much better now. 200x18@1.425v is priming for 15mins now ;) longest prime run on this chip ever...
4ghz seems out of reach, caus i canīt get it to boot at anything over 3950mhz.
Hmm... I think you should have a little luck getting 3.6 to run on less volts. Not saying stock volts like mine, but less that 1.425 set. Try using the htt to overclock on the 15x or 16x multi. You might be having the same problem I did with the multipliers not working correctly. Since your on x64 though that might be why it needs more volts to do everything.
I know everyone is excited about the new phenoms but i was wondering if anyone could help me push my system any further. i have ordered a true extreme and some 1066 ram and waiting for that to come in but could any of the phenom gurus take a look at my screenies and give me some ideas. i can upload any request information. thanks for looking.
Upgrade to BIOS 602, and run your ram UNganged
agreed, thats how I run it..or did..LOL. My replacement board is home and I am a lil afraid to put the Phenom II back on it LOL. I might get back early, like Tuesday instead of thursday next week. I will try to show you how it is done HondaGuy :p:.... muwahaha
anyone know of a new bios that might be coming soon for this board?
I just purchased Phenom II, and it does 3.6Ghz on stock vCore of 1.35V and I can bench. I pushed it to 3.7Ghz on stock vCore but crashed half way thru benching.
At 1.45V, I am doing 3.8Ghz. So far I am ONLY raising multipliers only. ACC was disabled. Wonder if if does anything for Phenom II????
I am on water. 603 BIOS for my Asus.
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=745165
Max Ambient Case Temp: 62 Celsius
why so low.... ?
where did you see that?
minde does 3.6ghz on stock vcore benchable too.. but stability is another story.
i did a vantage run at 3.8ghz@1.475v after that i started prime and it rebooted without a bluescreen or something.
3.6ghz@1.425 wasnīt stable either.. core 2 crapped out after 16mins.
acc does nothing for phenom2 at the moment. u canīt enable it...
if u do, u get no post.
Is this ACC + Phenom II problem just with ASUS boards?
I hope you have ordered Ram that is the regular low profile sort because you have trouble using the black and yellow slots closest to the socket with the TRUE unless you get and modify the S-clip - but then you have to use the stock retainer and you don't get to bolt it through the board and this is less that ideal when it come to the contact pressure you get.
I got an SI-128SE after I found that my TRUE wasn't ideally suited and it just works with my G.Skill PI which only have moderately tall heatsinks.
Cheers
So you guys are still getting very high overclocks with a Phenom II WITHOUT having to rely on ACC right? I'm asking because I just ordered a PII 940BE and Asus M3a79-T mobo with OCZ DDR2-1066.
Yea, enabling ACC results in a no-post for me with it set on Auto.
Worst thing I did was to enable ACC. I changed ACC to AUTO and the damn thing wouldn't even post. I had to clear the CMOS via jumper.:(
I can do 4.0Ghz with 1.6V on water cooling Super Pi 1 Meg stable and windows stable.
Sweet spots are 3.6Ghz at default vCore to 3.8Ghz with 1.45vCore. Yet to do 3.9Ghz run.:ROTF:
I'll have to play around with cpu-tweak, I didn't even bother touching that option while I was in the bios.
And yeah, voltages from 1.5 and above seem to really start to add heat quick.
I'm sure Asus are working on a new Bios to fix any problems.
I can't wait for my 940 to arrive :D
Got the Phenom II on my board now. Ths speed difference between this and the 3500+ is amazing. No surprise there :P
As far as overclocking is concerned though, I'm not sure where the memory divider is set - if it needs to be.
I'm starting to think that the memory clock is entirely independent of whatever I set as Bus Speed/HT multiplier/Clock multiplier. I just set a memory frequency and it sticks to it?
I have some serious problems with M3A79-T Deluxe and Phenom II 920, and I think it is related to some bad motherboard settings on my part.
I can't get the system to run stable at all, not even with stock speeds and everything (but memory voltage) on auto.
First off, ACC and AOD isn't working well att all. After reading here I can conclude that I'm not alone with those problems, so let's skip that.
After hours and hours of tweaking (who at Asus came up with the brilliant idea to NOT write out standard voltages in BIOS?!) i finally got the system more or less stable with the following settings:
http://pici.se/pictures/tRrQxYQVN.png
http://pici.se/pictures/QMpjauDtA.jpg
NB freq is about 2200MHz and mem about 950MHz (800MHz original, not 1066).
With those speeds SuperPi 1M runs at about 20sec, from what I can read this is pretty norma for about 3.4GHz.
However, in 3DMark i get ~ 4400p as CPU reslut which is almost 1000p less then other results at the same speed.
Overall the performance is much worse then with my old E8400 @ 4GHz. I realize that the E8400 was considerably faster with singel and dual threads, but even in programs that favors multicores, such as 3DMark, my results were better before.
My GFx is a GTX 260, with the old system I got about 17300p and with the new about 16400p.
Right now I feel like I've spent ~$525 on absolutley nothing, any tips you can give me?
You don't need to worry about voltages as much as you are. Many of the options other than vcore, vnb, and ram volts can just be left at auto. Worry about finding the overclock for your cpu before trying to overclock everything together. Try working with just the multipliers first, but remember 18x and above don't work correctly.
Multiplier might be hard as I'm using a 920.. ;)
At first I tried exactly that, just tweaking vcore, vnb and vram, but that rendered the system unstable at everything above 3GHz..
If I lover the vcore just one notch the system crashes all the way down to 3.1GHz..
I will try to bump the NB and HT doown to a minimum and see how high I can get the CPU again.. Last time I got stuck at around 3.3GHz, though, even worse then the current setup.
hmm, most of you seem to be able to reach 3.6GHz with around default vcore just like me, but I cant seem to run stable at anything over that speed no matter what voltage I use. Can you show me what settings you have in the bios to get up to that 3.9 range?
I can reach 2.75GHz notherbridge and HyperTransport speeds, DDR1150, but I am limited to about 3.55GHz to be 100% stable on the CPU cores...
Sorry about that, just took a glance at the screeny and looked more at the bios shot. High htt isn't a problem if you keep your nb and ht link in check. Set the option just below vcore to 1.3v and you should be safe through 2.2-2.3ghz on the nb speed.
Did disabling cpu-tweak have any effects on stability? I still need to figure out some stable setting today or else my first week back at school is going to be spent around the computer and not people. Not to mention I'm going to be installing the Windows 7 x86 beta on here soon when I put a spare hard drive in here.
Disabling CPU-Tweak does not have any effect. The system was posting and getting into Windows at 3.75GHz last night, but not stable at all. Now this morning it wont even post with a speec of anything above 3.6GHz
I found some kind of sweetspot here..
Everything upwards from here creates unstability at some point, the only thing i can do is trade my CR for a lower CL, but from what I saw during benching that made no difference.
Next multiplier for the memory gives a frequency of about 970, that is too much for my 800MHz-sticks.
The NB can take a little more, but the CPU can't. Next step is ~300 as HT ref to aquire the same CPU-speed and higher NB, and that hardly boots..
:)
In the end, I guess I should be happy. It's a decent clock considering I can't change multiplier, and it's rock solid.. Been running dual Prime95 for 2-3h accompanied by looping 3DMark06 without problems. If I apply my 650MHz increase to a 940 it gives about 3,6GHz which is where most people ends up..
SuperPi gives 20 sharp (20.050).
http://pici.se/pictures/pYOwoAhcy.png
But what is the latency difference between CL at 6 w/ 1T CR and CL at 5 w/ 2T CR? It might be the same overall speed in benching, but if the latency is a lot different then you should pick whichever has the lower latency.
Actually C&Q 3 has 4 default P-states and goes down to .8v, full features allow users to manually set their own P-states.
Well, maybe it does nothing for you...but that doesn't mean it does nothing for the series as a whole :p:. Have the 790GX asus board and i was getting the same issue. If i changed the ACC setting from OFF/AUTO/ALL/percore the after saving bios setting it would just be blank screen, and i had to shut the comp off wait for the power LED on the board to go out then next power on would be fine. Someone i know that actually hasAsus M3A79-T Deluxe said ACC works fine as well just best to not enable it with the voltage jacked up high, and apply ACC per core. I've been able to squeeze an extra 450mhz from ACC, but it's trial and error to get it to work sometimes.
I've found the same issue on multies 18.5 - 20 when i have mem clock set to 1066 in ganged mode, though 21.5 works fine. Some multi's are flakey on certain boards.
itīs not trial and error here.. even unplugging the psu and waiting a few seconds doesnīt change it. what do u mean with "voltage jacked up high"? i mean acc is of no use if i have to use stock volts to enable it.
what is an extra 450mhz? 3450mhz? or 3600mhz+450mhz? ;)
iīm at 3.7ghz now, 3hrs primestable
http://www.abload.de/thumb/prime3hrj0d.jpg
seems as oldguy was right, the high multis donīt work that well. or it is the imc that doesnīt like 1066ddr2 at higher clocks.
Can I get a list of stock Phenom II voltages? I don't know what to trust anymore. I'm looking mainly for NB, HTT, etc..
Anyone here has a TRUE mounted? If so, can you post a picture of how it looks?
From what I understand it covers the first memory slot AND must be mounted facing up or down.. Still interested though as the local computershop has one in stock..
:)