http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...TfXKI&refer=uk
first the Danish government now the EU with much higher fees, not so sure if Intel will have a positive revenue this year......
what will be the influence on the US lawsuit?
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...TfXKI&refer=uk
first the Danish government now the EU with much higher fees, not so sure if Intel will have a positive revenue this year......
what will be the influence on the US lawsuit?
I think every decision that forces the big players to rethink their cartel like strategies is a good one.
For anyone who doubts wheter Intel really did something wrong, it is no coincidence that Intel is getting in trouble at multiple places. I think the influence on the American case is definately there, but indirectly at best. The case in the US is conerning actions in the US, I presume. The EU and Korea handle their own jurisdiction.
I really hate that the x86 CPU industry is a pure Oligopoly. It is the definition of the term. Barriers to entry are so high, they're Intel-high (thats high!).
Please remove the "land" from the title.
EU isn't an island, it is an entire continent.
Hopefully this accountability can come stateside after the free pass corporations have been getting lately.
Perkam
+1 perkam
I do think its totally correct to use "EU land". Land doesnt automatically mean "island". Or "country" or stuff like that. EU land would mean just a piece of land (opposite to sea/ocean?) that territorially belongs to the EU :p. Dunno, sounds fine to me
I just hope ALL rebates become illegal:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
It probably puts some extra pressure on US regulators to put an end to what's been going on. But at the end of the day what happens in the US will be decided by who knows who and what favor they decide to call in. The rule of law is flexible these days, provided you have enough money.Quote:
Originally Posted by duploxxx
What intel did back in the K8 era was wrong... now they are doing nothing wrong.
yup, it's perfectly ok to useQuote:
Originally Posted by Neuuubeh
Nah its not continent.. Europe =! EU :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
it actualy isnt ok.
Not all of Europe belongs to the EU. The EU is a grp of countrys that are working together in some areas.
In some ways im happy that the EU is taking care of this. mostly cause the EU is known for proper punishment of corporations that break the law.
Im afraid that in other areas of the world where Intel is facing the same charges they will get away with a slap on the wrist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EurasiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Eurasia is a large landmass covering about 53,990,000 kmē or about 10.6% of the Earth's surface (36.2% of the land area). Often considered a single continent, Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of Europe and Asia (and Eurasia is a portmanteau of the two).
Just depends on who you talk to.
Either way, this is the wrong time to be trying to squeeze large corporations for Back Door tax increases:down: This does NOTHING but drives up costs for the EU consumers because Intel will simply pass on any fine/s to folks buying their products. Unlike the EU, the Koreans aren't stupid enough to try and pull something like that, hince 25 million dollar fine, Intel does away with rebates there. Yes, it will help AMD as well as they'll finally be able to do in courts, something they couldn't do in the Boardroom, raise prices and or get higher ASP's:up:
Meanwhile, the same old scam of rebate companies ripping off Consumers while paying off not only the US, but the EU as well, will continue:rofl: Yes, rebate companies split taxes with the respective governments.
225 euros with 100 euro Rebate, yet you still pay the 10% vat on 225. 22.50 when the tax should have been 10 euros. Who gets the 12.50?;)
Only some highly delusional or drunk think those folks running the EU are completely honest. One thread you guys say they are, on the thread about TPB, that judge isn't LOL! Talking about having your cake and eating too:rofl::ROTF:
im more interested in what intel did, and not the definition of EU
Your complete lack of knowledge on everything that you talk about is a gift that keeps on giving. This is from start to end a perfectly absurd post, congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Your complete lack of knowledge on everything that you talk about is a gift that keeps on giving. This is from start to end a perfectly absurd post, congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleZero
could a mod please clean this up
Well, Perkam started it all.. he should've just let the OP look dumb with the title! (just kidding with ya, Perkam)
Yet AMD is still paying the price for not having that $ available for all those years resulting in their current situation (although bad decisions on their part played an equal role).Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
finally intel in trouble
I HATE INTEL !
AMD wouldn't do stupid stuff to intel just to sell more but intel did and i say they are cheap
AMD WILL WIN the LAWSUIT!
Then why the hell did you register here, this is not a hate Intel forum :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS
AMD is no different than Intel when they can afford to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS
And Hating Intel? After C2D, C2Q and Nehalem? I hope you mean dislike at worst.
umm........okQuote:
Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS
Uhmm..newsflash. AMD=Intel. They would both do the same. AMD even blatantly with benchmarks etc on 65nm K10. Had spec numbers pulled down in disgrace when they was in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by ILikeCosmosS
And they make up stuff like:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...-core_duel.pdf
Trust me, one aint better than the other. Both AMD and Intel would stab your eyes out with icepicks if it was legal and gave money. Or just gave money and would most likely not be detected and could be payed with a smallish fine if they did.
Welcome to capitalism.
Also this is EU vs Intel. AMD gets nothing. Intel will get a slap over its fingers at best. Just like MS.
Its also controversal if AMD even lost anything about it. Since AMD sold everything their fabs could make.
mmm... Not quite sure how a 'comical' pdf, or unrealistic marketing compares to unfair trade practices.. or stabbing people in the eyes for that matter.
The things intel have been convicted of are Illegal.. The PDF, and Bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: marketing are not There's a reason for that. Those things can be easily counter-attacked by Intel. If AMD BS or exagerate performance claims, then fine, launch a marketing campaign to show everyone why it's bs and your product is better... The things intel have done are unable to be counteracted by AMD (legally).
I agree, companies everywhere pull tactics, push the boundries of what's legal, and often are at the least unethical.. it's capitalism, it's business, but neither you or anyone else has proof that "AMD would do the same".. perhaps they would, perhaps they wouldnt. There are Plenty of leading companies out their that DON'T though.