New 120x120x38mm Fans from Scythe

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10-15-2007, 08:54 AM
Major_A

New 120x120x38mm Fans from Scythe

http://www.techpowerup.com/?42121

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Scythe announced today three new sleeve bearing Ultra Kaze 120mm case fans. Unlike the common fans with 25mm thickness, the new Ultra Kaze 120 fans come with 38mm thikness. The slowest model (DFS123812L-1000) has the following specifications: 1000RPM, 19,81dBA and 44,44CFM. Furthermore, it is designed for silent operation in a PC system. Other models of Ultra Kaze 120 - DFS123812L-2000 and DFS123812H-3000 - aim for enthusiasts who are seeking high performance and high airflow for their PCs.

I just ordered this one so I'll see how it works.
32.91dBA / 87.63CFM / DC12V / 0.25A (2000rpm version)
10-15-2007, 08:59 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Sounds good. Perhaps we have some new enthusiast winner fans here. Would have been nice with some 1500 and 2500rpm versions too perhaps.
10-15-2007, 09:08 AM
[XC] gomeler

We like em thick :p: 2000 rpm looks pretty nice
10-15-2007, 09:13 AM
SnipingWaste

I would never buy a sleeve bearing fan. The MTF is very low compared to double ball bearing fans.

I have a supplier of JMC 120mm fans at 12V is around 130cfm at 3000RPM and at 5V around 65CFM with little to no noise. There all double ball bearing fans and I have one in a case thats been running 24/7 for 7 years at 5V and in great shape and only cost me $7 each.
10-15-2007, 09:21 AM
kuhla

We need to get Vapor these fans :D 7v modding the DFS123812L-2000s may be a nice solution @ 2,000 rpm, 32.91dBA, 87.63CFM for my rad.
10-15-2007, 09:21 AM
GoThr3k

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Originally Posted by SnipingWaste

I would never buy a sleeve bearing fan. The MTF is very low compared to double ball bearing fans.

I have a supplier of JMC 120mm fans at 12V is around 130cfm at 3000RPM and at 5V around 65CFM with little to no noise. There all double ball bearing fans and I have one in a case thats been running 24/7 for 7 years at 5V and in great shape and only cost me $7 each.

MTF???
EDIT// just found it,hours it is suppose to last?
and these are supposed to be 7.56€ each,so that isnt bad if you ask me
10-15-2007, 09:23 AM
berk

looks good ,ill wait for you guys and the real-world results.
Good luck :)
10-15-2007, 09:29 AM
MuffinFlavored

Quiter than my low profile Yate Loons?

19.81dBA / 44.44CFM / DC12V / 0.25A (1000rpm version)

Where my Yate Loons are 45CFM / 24dbA.

I am interested.
I may purchase some.
10-15-2007, 10:13 AM
Origin_Unknown

interesting... maybe i can replace the fans on my TRUE
10-15-2007, 10:24 AM
Major_A

Forgot to mention I picked up the fan from AeroCooler.com. I've never dealt with them before but I guess there's a first time for everything. I did receive my confirmation email telling me that my order was placed. I have no idea when it will get here though.
I was about to buy a Scythe S-Flex fan then I saw this headline and jumped on it. As a bonus they are cheaper than the S-Flex fans I've seen at different sites.
Ultra Kaze - 1000RPM $10.50
Ultra Kaze - 2000RPM $10.50
Ultra Kaze - 3000RPM $10.50
10-15-2007, 03:03 PM
lowfat

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Originally Posted by SnipingWaste

I would never buy a sleeve bearing fan. The MTF is very low compared to double ball bearing fans.

I have a supplier of JMC 120mm fans at 12V is around 130cfm at 3000RPM and at 5V around 65CFM with little to no noise. There all double ball bearing fans and I have one in a case thats been running 24/7 for 7 years at 5V and in great shape and only cost me $7 each.

Funny, I have a hard time buying fans with anything besides sleeve bearing fans :D

Generally ball bearing fans are just too loud.
10-15-2007, 03:19 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by DerekFSE

I have 120mm*38mm Sunon's, I love em. Sure on max speed they are loud, but I only have to turn them up until the blue light comes on, on the Rheobus. I dont see any added benefit by turning them up higher.

I have an AMD 64 3500? I think, non X2, with stock HSF, and its louder than the panaflos.

Just put a little 98cfm sunon on a TR HS to see if it would help..
Instant 12c drop..Noise? what noise? I had 6000rpm Vantecs on their till yesterday..I think they are quiet..:rofl:
120mm X 120mm X 38mm, 98CFM, 36.5 dBa, 5.1W, 2800RPM, 12V
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/627/img0909hh9.jpg
10-15-2007, 03:20 PM
apexracing

Ah, the great bearing debate pops up again. Sleeve bearings are quieter in the right orientation, vertical, but they don't last as long. Ball bearings last longer and aren't as directional, but they can be louder.

I think they're getting better though, Panaflo has their wonderful hydro-wave bearings which have the benefits of both. All sorts of high-tech bearings out there now. :)
10-15-2007, 04:17 PM
SnipingWaste

One of the bearings I like that is new is the ceramic bearings. The bad thing is the price.
10-15-2007, 04:55 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

How do you guys thing that these will compare to the San Ace 1011s? Nine bucks is a lot cheaper than the 20 bucks I payed for each of my Ace's.

If they hold up, sign me up for these as internal case fans.
10-15-2007, 05:00 PM
PhilDoc

Gotta like the price. About half what I paid for the 3200rpm Delta fans I have on my TR. Might just pick up a couple of the 3000rpm ones for case fans. Put them on a fan controller and crank them up when a little extra airflow is wanted.
10-15-2007, 05:31 PM
kuhla

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

How do you guys thing that these will compare to the San Ace 1011s? Nine bucks is a lot cheaper than the 20 bucks I payed for each of my Ace's.

I would love to know the answer to that too but I think the only person that could tell us is Vapor :)

*starts up the Vapor signal which looks kind of like the Bat signal but is the outline of a fan*
10-15-2007, 05:47 PM
Major_A

The 120MM fan I'm using now has it's on rheostat. I won't be able to use it with the incoming fan. Anyone know of a fan controller that has 5V, 7V, 9V and 12V options for the fans? I know there are ones with knobs but I am looking for those specific settings.
10-15-2007, 05:57 PM
Faktor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major_A

The 120MM fan I'm using now has it's on rheostat. I won't be able to use it with the incoming fan. Anyone know of a fan controller that has 5V, 7V, 9V and 12V options for the fans? I know there are ones with knobs but I am looking for those specific settings.

What about this?

http://www.xoxide.com/sunbeam-chorma...ill-black.html

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Features:

* Calendar
o Display year, month, day, and time
o Time in 12-hour format
* Temperature Sensors:
o Three sets of temperature sensors
o User adjustable overheat alarm
o Visual and audible alarm
* Fan Controller:
o Controls up to 7 fans
o Fan speed sensing
o Audible and visual error indicator
o Fan speed controller
o Fan status
* Hard disk indicator
* EMI Shielded wires

Specifications:

* Max Fans Controlled: 7
* Max Temp Channels: 3
* DC Input: 12/5VDC
* Voltage Output: 6-12VDC
* Maximum Power Consumption: 10W per Channel, 70W Total
* Temperature Sensors: 3
* Temperature Range: 25-80 Degrees Celsius
10-15-2007, 06:17 PM
Major_A

Looks alright, I wonder if there is a way to turn down (mostly off) the display panel. I don't mind modding a fan the old fashioned way (wire cutters) but if I'm not happy with the noise/performance I have to mod it again. Every fan in my tower is 5V with the exception of my blow hole fan (7V) and CPU fan (around 9V it's at 1800RPM). I'll look around and see if I can find a review. Hell I'd be happy with a 5.25" inch plate that has fan headers and a manual switch that can select 5V, 7V or 12V.
10-15-2007, 06:20 PM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major_A

http://www.techpowerup.com/?42121

I just ordered this one so I'll see how it works.
32.91dBA / 87.63CFM / DC12V / 0.25A (2000rpm version)

amazing fans! these are Yate killers! cheap, quiet and push air!
im putting the 3000 rpm 4x (push/pull) on the heatercore.
10-15-2007, 06:24 PM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by trans am

amazing fans! these are Yate killers! cheap, quiet and push air!
im putting the 3000 rpm 4x (push/pull) on the heatercore.

Maybe, maybe not. Could lie about their specs, or just be far off. And price comes into play as well. I think Vapor needs to give these fans a test though to compare them to the others and give us the run-down on them :D
10-15-2007, 06:41 PM
Major_A

I take it Vapor is the unofficial Official XS Fan Tester?
10-15-2007, 06:58 PM
sergers

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Originally Posted by Major_A

I take it Vapor is the unofficial Official XS Fan Tester?

well he did do a fairly thorough 26 fan review: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=137832

cathar did a nice one aswell http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=150261

I think I will have to try a few of these out to pass judgment... scythe seems to have always over-exaggerate their fan noise ratings in the past
10-15-2007, 07:24 PM
Major_A

Sorry I don't hit that part of the forums that often. And 86 the fan controller I just found a Zalman Fanmate II if I need to adjust the fan.

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