Celeron 430 @ 3ghz vs FX-57 @ 3160mhz , the new Celeron rocks

How the title says:

Celeron 430 @ 3ghz vs FX-57 @ 3160mhz

Cinebench
Celeron 430 -> 473
FX-57 -> 435
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CPUMark99
Celeron 430 -> 400
FX-57 -> 406
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PiFast
Celeron 430 -> 36.00secs
FX-57 -> 38.58secs
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Pi 1m
Celeron 430 -> 22.828secs
FX-57 -> 26.922secs

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very easy to reach 3ghz stable with the crappy Intel cooler box

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3794/idlepn7.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3...imerun2rd9.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/929/primerunvz8.jpg

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Celeron 430
MB->Gigabyte P35-DQ6
DDR2->Crucial 6400
Cooling->Intel Cooler Box
HDD->Hitachi 40GB
SO->WinXP Pro SP2

FX-57
MB->DFI Ultra D
DDR->OCZ Platinum 400 TCCD
Cooling->water + ice
HDD->Hitachi 80GB
SO->WinXP Pro SP2

room temp -> 28C

What would you say are the effects of DDR2 and P35 verses the FX-57 system?

At any rate nice performance for a $54 chip on the stock cooler verses $400+ chip (if you can find it) on water cooling.

the P35 is not fast as i975X or 680i but Gigabyte/Celly will beat DFI/FX-57 in games and compressions.
what to say? the old A64 needs more clock and AMD needs Phenom :)

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At any rate nice performance for a $54 chip on the stock cooler verses $400+ chip (if you can find it) on water cooling.

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sry, i edited the post ,its not only water is water + ice

well, a conroe's a conroe, isn't it?
;)
thanks for the comparison.

So the new celerons are really good.
Thanks

my friend that celeron is just begging for extreme cooling.. bring on the LN2.

Thanks for sharing PcCI2iminal. :up:
You're as always "The Man" for us "budget clockers" with all your comprehensive testing of cheap iron. :)

One 440 ordered today.. <hnngg>. :D

PS.
Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass". :)

Tried fsb wall on this?

I will get celly 420 today with 8x multi

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Originally Posted by TL1000S

PS.
Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass". :)

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Those would have been fighting words back then. :D

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Originally Posted by kiwi

Tried fsb wall on this?

I will get celly 420 today with 8x multi

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here my friend

i got it on air a week ago
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4...y395fsbob3.jpg
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2...40cellyqj0.jpg

and today i was trying to get better scores under dry ice and i got only 399FSB on DFI RD600 :mad:

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my friend that celeron is just begging for extreme cooling.. bring on the LN2.

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not that celly ,but i will try with a new one(420 or 440)

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Originally Posted by TL1000S

Thanks for sharing PcCI2iminal. :up:
You're as always "The Man" for us "budget clockers" with all your comprehensive testing of cheap iron. :)

One 440 ordered today.. <hnngg>. :D

PS.
Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass". :)

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thx ;)
i like Celeron ,they are very funny on air and very cheap
and now they are so powerful hehehe

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Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass"

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:rofl:

Still very nice for a cheap chip, it is enough on air :) My 420 does 8x340 so far all stock. I am also testing new Asrock 1333 mobo but 945 is not so good for oc since I have to raise PCI-E freq > 120. But some user got it up to 420fsb. Need ATA HDD or PCI sata card :)

Ordering one of these now. I can't resist. With my Biostar P35 board coming tomorrow, this comes to $165 for the combo. Amazing!

-Collin-

Of course a conroe is a conroe, but a Celeron compared to a e6320 for example is no much.
The 3ghz on here is nothing compared to a PROPER conroe.

I'm pretty sure this thing can do A LOT more than 3.0ghz. It's a single core, probably runs WAY cooler, has less cache...that spells a dang good OC. While the performance obviously won't match a "real" conroe, I think this thing will be an absolute blast to play with.

This little chip has no idea what's about to hit it :)

-Collin-

I have a 430 incoming too, will post results here soon! :)

Are this new celerons based on a real single-core design, or maybe just one core or something disabled?

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Originally Posted by funkflix

I have a 430 incoming too, will post results here soon! :)

Are this new celerons based on a real single-core design, or maybe just one core or something disabled?

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I was going to ask the same thing. Seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth for Intel to completely design a Celeron from the ground up like that. Maybe it's a dual core with one core disabled? That would be a first.

-Collin-

Are those celerons (430,440) supported by chipsets such as 915P and the 925X? After all they only use a single core, very much like the celeron Ds.
Sorry for the OT D-:

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Originally Posted by Zzzz

Are those celerons (430,440) supported by chipsets such as 915P and the 925X?
Sorry for the OT D-:

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I doubt it, as they use the architecture of the core 2 duos. Hmm, then again, it's not a chipset limitation, but a limitation of the motherboard power regulation. I think any core 2 duo board will support these, but nothing else. I don't think the two chipsets you mentioned will though. A few generations too old.

-Collin-

Recieved my stuff today! I just install windows atm, results later. :)

http://www.abload.de/img/celi4n2.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/testxpu.jpg

If they could hit 550FSB these could be fun chips, just throw 2 volts at them for the hell of it :D

muahahaha ordered my self a 440 celly yesterday.. im so gonna torture the living bejesus out of that chip.. i hope to hit over 3.1ghz with water. wish me luck ;)

woot, at least some fun stuff happening!!! way to go guys! :up: waiting on some results :clap:

Yeah, I think that is really cool to that with the new Celerons like that, but beating an FX-57, wow. I find it interesting how similar the overclockable Celerons of today compare with the OCable Cellys of yesteryear. Compare this Celeron the to the Tualatin Celerons of five years ago:

Both P6 Core Based
Both have half the Cache of their Pentium Counterpart (Either PIII-S or E2xxx)
Both of them have massive OC potential
Both of them when OCed beat out CPUs that nobody thought they would (Pentium4(A), FX-57)
Both of them were a tremendous value in their day.

Tualatin Celeron Overclock: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=166913

Some results:

Prime -

3000MHz stock Vcore

3300MHz ~ 1.37V

SuperPI 1M -

3420MHz 1.43V 19.861s

It seems that this CPU has a FSB limitation at ~ 385MHz, can't reach 35xxMHz.