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    Celeron 430 @ 3ghz vs FX-57 @ 3160mhz , the new Celeron rocks

    How the title says:

    Celeron 430 @ 3ghz vs FX-57 @ 3160mhz

    Cinebench
    Celeron 430 -> 473
    FX-57 -> 435


    CPUMark99
    Celeron 430 -> 400
    FX-57 -> 406


    PiFast
    Celeron 430 -> 36.00secs
    FX-57 -> 38.58secs


    Pi 1m
    Celeron 430 -> 22.828secs
    FX-57 -> 26.922secs



    very easy to reach 3ghz stable with the crappy Intel cooler box








    Celeron 430
    MB->Gigabyte P35-DQ6
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    Cooling->Intel Cooler Box
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    FX-57
    MB->DFI Ultra D
    DDR->OCZ Platinum 400 TCCD
    Cooling->water + ice
    HDD->Hitachi 80GB
    SO->WinXP Pro SP2

    room temp -> 28C
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    What would you say are the effects of DDR2 and P35 verses the FX-57 system?

    At any rate nice performance for a $54 chip on the stock cooler verses $400+ chip (if you can find it) on water cooling.

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    the P35 is not fast as i975X or 680i but Gigabyte/Celly will beat DFI/FX-57 in games and compressions.
    what to say? the old A64 needs more clock and AMD needs Phenom

    At any rate nice performance for a $54 chip on the stock cooler verses $400+ chip (if you can find it) on water cooling.
    sry, i edited the post ,its not only water is water + ice
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    well, a conroe's a conroe, isn't it?

    thanks for the comparison.
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    So the new celerons are really good.
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    my friend that celeron is just begging for extreme cooling.. bring on the LN2.
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    Thanks for sharing PcCI2iminal.
    You're as always "The Man" for us "budget clockers" with all your comprehensive testing of cheap iron.

    One 440 ordered today.. <hnngg>.

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    Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass".
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    Tried fsb wall on this?

    I will get celly 420 today with 8x multi
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    Quote Originally Posted by TL1000S View Post

    PS.
    Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass".
    Those would have been fighting words back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi View Post
    Tried fsb wall on this?

    I will get celly 420 today with 8x multi

    here my friend

    i got it on air a week ago



    and today i was trying to get better scores under dry ice and i got only 399FSB on DFI RD600


    my friend that celeron is just begging for extreme cooling.. bring on the LN2.
    not that celly ,but i will try with a new one(420 or 440)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TL1000S View Post
    Thanks for sharing PcCI2iminal.
    You're as always "The Man" for us "budget clockers" with all your comprehensive testing of cheap iron.

    One 440 ordered today.. <hnngg>.

    PS.
    Who would think a little over a year ago that a "celly" would whoup "FX ass".
    thx
    i like Celeron ,they are very funny on air and very cheap
    and now they are so powerful hehehe


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    Still very nice for a cheap chip, it is enough on air My 420 does 8x340 so far all stock. I am also testing new Asrock 1333 mobo but 945 is not so good for oc since I have to raise PCI-E freq > 120. But some user got it up to 420fsb. Need ATA HDD or PCI sata card
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    Ordering one of these now. I can't resist. With my Biostar P35 board coming tomorrow, this comes to $165 for the combo. Amazing!

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    Of course a conroe is a conroe, but a Celeron compared to a e6320 for example is no much.
    The 3ghz on here is nothing compared to a PROPER conroe.

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    I'm pretty sure this thing can do A LOT more than 3.0ghz. It's a single core, probably runs WAY cooler, has less cache...that spells a dang good OC. While the performance obviously won't match a "real" conroe, I think this thing will be an absolute blast to play with.

    This little chip has no idea what's about to hit it

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    I have a 430 incoming too, will post results here soon!

    Are this new celerons based on a real single-core design, or maybe just one core or something disabled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkflix View Post
    I have a 430 incoming too, will post results here soon!

    Are this new celerons based on a real single-core design, or maybe just one core or something disabled?
    I was going to ask the same thing. Seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth for Intel to completely design a Celeron from the ground up like that. Maybe it's a dual core with one core disabled? That would be a first.

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    Are those celerons (430,440) supported by chipsets such as 915P and the 925X? After all they only use a single core, very much like the celeron Ds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzz View Post
    Are those celerons (430,440) supported by chipsets such as 915P and the 925X?
    Sorry for the OT D-:
    I doubt it, as they use the architecture of the core 2 duos. Hmm, then again, it's not a chipset limitation, but a limitation of the motherboard power regulation. I think any core 2 duo board will support these, but nothing else. I don't think the two chipsets you mentioned will though. A few generations too old.

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    Recieved my stuff today! I just install windows atm, results later.



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    If they could hit 550FSB these could be fun chips, just throw 2 volts at them for the hell of it

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    muahahaha ordered my self a 440 celly yesterday.. im so gonna torture the living bejesus out of that chip.. i hope to hit over 3.1ghz with water. wish me luck
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    woot, at least some fun stuff happening!!! way to go guys! waiting on some results
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    Yeah, I think that is really cool to that with the new Celerons like that, but beating an FX-57, wow. I find it interesting how similar the overclockable Celerons of today compare with the OCable Cellys of yesteryear. Compare this Celeron the to the Tualatin Celerons of five years ago:

    Both P6 Core Based
    Both have half the Cache of their Pentium Counterpart (Either PIII-S or E2xxx)
    Both of them have massive OC potential
    Both of them when OCed beat out CPUs that nobody thought they would (Pentium4(A), FX-57)
    Both of them were a tremendous value in their day.

    Tualatin Celeron Overclock: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=166913
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    Some results:

    Prime -

    3000MHz stock Vcore

    3300MHz ~ 1.37V

    SuperPI 1M -

    3420MHz 1.43V 19.861s

    It seems that this CPU has a FSB limitation at ~ 385MHz, can't reach 35xxMHz.
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