I've just googled RD990 what is the codename of future 990FX chipset and I found a PDF from AMD from September 2010.:D
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5300/zambl.png
source
So it looks like that we have a launch date now.
I've just googled RD990 what is the codename of future 990FX chipset and I found a PDF from AMD from September 2010.:D
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5300/zambl.png
source
So it looks like that we have a launch date now.
september 2010 joking right?
Hm, I was hoping it would come a bit earlier.
Good find, thanks! :up:
Well done, Oliverda! :toast:
How come nobody have seen this before?
So, here is an another from October:Quote:
Originally Posted by 22JHP
http://prohardver.hu/dl/upc/2010-11/...pu_roadmap.jpg
If it's still effective then they will start the shipping of the CPUs some weeks before the launch.
I was expecting the first half of May but it's only few weeks away from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
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Originally Posted by Mats
That's a very good question.:)
JF spoke about Q2 2011 for Zambezi too and June is the last month for that quarter, ofc I would have hoped it arrived a month or so sooner but since it's already march now and without any fuss made about it from AMD at all I doubt we will get it any sooner than June now.
Zambezi is one quarter ahead of schedule; this is old news ;)
Yes, as in the info comes from a pdf from last year, check out the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
No, as in I haven't seen a launch DATE before.
People have been asking for a launch date pretty much every week for the last year or so, but still, no one have ever pointed to E3 or this slide AFAIK as an answer.
So it's news to me.
But yeah, June have been my guess for the last month or so, it makes sense.
AMD can't start production and make enough CPU's at a shorter time than that.
I think the schedule has changed since then. desktop bulldozer may happen sooner. I for one look forward to the launch of AM3+ motherboards. I am going to buy a $200 one and put a $30 Sempron 140 in it. doors = blown off
So late!!!
I nominate Oliverda's find/post as the best post of 2011 :D .Inexcusable how we didn't see this before.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv4/wuttzi/zambl.png
Sample in March 2011, this means those so-call "leaked bulldozer benchmark" are FAKE after all.
Not necessarily -- Engineering samples make out months if not a year for final production samples. On the flip side, this semantic use of terms does not validate them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
right, production smaples are someting as final revision...ES show AMD at CES 2011 (we seen taskmanager:D)!
Remeber this though:
The information contained herein is subject to change and may be rendered inaccurate for many reasons, including but not limited to product and roadmap changes, component and motherboard version changes, new model and/or product releases, product differences between differing manufacturers, software changes, BIOS flashes, firmware upgrades, or the like. AMD assumes no obligation to update or otherwise correct or revise this information. However, AMD reserves the right to revise this information and to make changes from time to time to the content hereof without obligation of AMD to notify any person of such revisions or changes.
Why not AMD launch at Computex 2011 ? :confused::confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
Here is a 2010 October update:Quote:
Originally Posted by undone
http://prohardver.hu/dl/upc/2010-12/13063_llano3.jpg
But this doesn't necessarily mean that the launch has been moved forward.
Probably because AMD is a US based company.Quote:
Originally Posted by imamage
That's more up to dateQuote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
April-May timeframe seams possible
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aten-Ra
Yes, but you can see Nov10 as an IP date for Brazos and it only became available about two months later in Jan11. If you add that two months to Zambezi's IP date then you get Jun11.
Argh that's late...but I'm gonna wait it :up:
on the other hand BD is production ready in march and boards are supposed to be ready too; i think that BD is going to hit the shelves in mid MayQuote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
Well at bottom it says brazos launch at CES, which it kinda did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
EDIT: Corrected 5am no sleep spelling errors. :D
With the October update May seems very possible. Roadmaps are always subject to change.
I am too but I'm going to prolly piss myself with rage if it isn't out buy then. I've waited like 4 years for this stupid thing if it doesn't I'm buying a $300 whatever the hell Intel has to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubZero.it
lol i was beginning to think that BD was the new duke nukem forever!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
:ROTF:
edit: omg....i almost have 1k posts!!! i have to make sure its a good one.
I'm sure when it does launch you'll find something else to be in a rage over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
Im curious at new wallpapers and screens "Scorpion" platform. Remember in review day Phenosm II nice screenshots of Dragons and later diferents wallpapers Dragon platforms. Hope, AMD will make now some simillary :). I have 2 years old wallpaper :D
Has it really been that long?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
My how time flies!
Yeah, like how soon AM3+ will be replaced..Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ
:wasntme:
i dont think DDR4 will be all that special right away, the specs for max DDR3 have overlap with DDR4, and then theres the cost of the new ram, and the fact its a safe bet AM4 cpus will be compatible with AM3+
AM2+ lasted up until.... more than now... since you can drop a thuban into AM2+. i would say that platform dies once BD is out. if anything its AM3 that didnt last very long
Thats easy, 1 year.BD ver 2.0 will need new socket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
I feel like I have a right to be bitter been waiting for 4 years for AMD to come out with something decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMojoZ
This x100000000 I have more hope for Duke Nukem at this point considering we've at least seen working footage of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by god_43
Dear AMD send me something working to shut me up, I want to be excited again.
bah dont worry glow baby, be happy (....like the fish in my office always says to me....)! we are in the home stretch, i think we are all anxious just because it is so close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
Im still on AM2+, only got that thanks to an RMA where they upgraded me from my old AM2 board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
So I've been waiting for BD for quite some time.
Either way I wouldn't really care if a new socket get released after a year. I'll still be using the same one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Here is my very simple socket roadmap for this topic:
http://logout.hu/dl/upc/2010-11/13063_socketroadmap.png
that chart implies an AM3 cpu works with AM2 and AM2+? i thought it was only AM2
amd may go lga after socket am3+Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
It works with both AM2 and AM2+. It mainly depends on the BIOS support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
I like having an upgrade path thats all. I hate buying multiple boards to me just seems like a big waste of metal, pcb, oil, ect. Longevity of a board is really good for all of us and our pocket books.Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
Well so far we have had great longevity with AM2 boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
Also given how different BD is to all the other CPU, a new socket is understandable.
Also since we have very little info on it and the new sockets, we don't know if they really will bring out a new socket after a year. Even if they do, it's likely the new cpus for it will also fit in the previous socket.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
My recollection (or possible hallucination ? :eek: ) is this was roughly the timeframe that AMD announced Llano moving back a 'quarter'. This all followed yer typical Internet supposition that rolled (roiled?-LOL) TSMC 40/28nm and GF 32nm gate-first yield issues together somewhat -- and the folks in-the-know were not talking. IIRC, Dirk even came out and said, "There are not yield issues with gate-first ... "
All 'supposition' seemed 'agenda' fueled (for some reason 'savantu' keeps flashing in my head) ...
Dresdenboy have found the following.........VERY interesting
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...&postcount=365
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Significant Upgrade in June 2011 – 232 AMD 2.3 GHz 16-core Opteron Interlagos processors – 3,712 compute cores, 116 32-core nodes – 7.4 TB DDR3 memory, 64 GB/node, 2.0 GB/core
So it seams Desktop Bulldozer will be released before June ;)Quote:
In June 2011, a 720-teraflop Cray XE6 system will be added to Gaea. It will employ the next-generation AMD Interlagos 16-core processor. After the installation of that second system, the original 260-teraflop system will be upgraded with the same AMD Interlagos processor to achieve 386 teraflops.
Cray has the ability to get an early allotment of the processors, though the fact that they are server grade does make me wonder... Maybe Bulldozer will be here sooner than we think? Does anyone know whether Cray and other HPC companies upgrade systems prior to actual release of a product? I vaguely recall this type of thing happening before, prior to product launch...
June 1 is my B-day so that's my deadline. I'd like to treat myself to building a new comp. :bday2: You hear that AMD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aten-Ra
iirc Cray was the first to use 6-Core Istanbul and 4-Core Shanghai, before OEM systems became availableQuote:
Originally Posted by xVeinx
and if you take a look at the latest roadmap desktop schedule is 1Q before server schedule; the april-may rumor is getting more and more likely :)
i hope that BD brings some price slashes to SB so i can do a cheap upgrade to i7 2xxx and the new zotac H67 board (i miss my raid 5...)
The reason for socket change has more to do with on die PCIe controller etc. and less about RAM standard (which haven't been an upgrade issue since the DDR2 introduction five years ago.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Definitely one of my favorite responses to one of my posts. lol yeah no kidding I've been waiting so long, can't wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by god_43
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
Outdated roadmaps, exciting.... this thread will go places... :D
I am bloody excited even with an outdated roadmap!!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
aslong as it's out by june =).. im gonna replace my whoooole PC I think.. fancy something smaller and less beasty!!
How do you know that the roadmaps are outdated?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
It's easy! Can't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
Just look at the pixels, they look "old" :p:
Awww dang Amd! I was hoping to get Bulldozer for a nice price on my trip to China in April but you let me down! June is really late is there any chance I'll find AM3+ boards by April at least?
/sadface
clickQuote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
There doesn't seem to be great differences between 8 series and 9 series chipsets. Both MSI and ASRock (and perhaps more) are coming out with 8 series AM3+ boards soon. What's 9 series going to give us that they can't?
I'm interested in the 990 FX. I can wait, but I wish they would release that instead of redone 890 FX boards. We still do not know if there will be limitations placed on the AM3+ 890 FX boards. On top of that who knows if those boards will support future revisions of Bulldozer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
both AM3+ and AM3 use hypertransport 3.0Quote:
Originally Posted by xBanzai89
they could put a 790 series chipset on there without any drawbacks apart from the differences in the southbridge and IOMMU support ;); even nforce 780a shouldn't be a problem
But Oliverda... that doesn't show any difference at all? I know there's a jump from AHCI 1.1 to 1.2... but the number of PCIe lanes stays the same (I think?) the capabilities stays the same... etc etc. I think even the SB/NB interface has the same bandwidth.... I'm afraid I don't know enough about AHCI to know if there would be latency/speed increases on SSDs with the upgrade, but I'd be hopeful of that at least :)
I know. :) Just some minor improvements. AFAIK SB850 already supports AHCI 1.2. Maybe SB950 is going to support AHCI 1.3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
You might be right on that, I'm not entirely sure where I picked up that it was going to go from 1.1 to 1.2. A google shows that 1.3 is the current iteration. Sometimes I remember things, but don't know where I found the information from! :)
No real reason to go 8xx over 9xx then, as far as we know.... On the other hand there's no sense in buying a board now for Bulldozer launch rather than waiting for the 990FX boards to arrive. I think the 8xx AM3+ boards are for people buying AM3 CPUs now, and thinking of an upgrade next year. Disappointed with the information on Bulldozer that's come out in CEBIT. I had hoped to find out more about the platform.
or they want board that don't have such horrible voltage fluctuations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
Voltage control is independent of the chipset.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
Thats really disappointing, chipset features look the same ,chip size is the same, node on which it is made is the same, power consumption is same/worse.
Looks like a hack job.
So hopes for intel like hdd/ssd controller performance are pretty much gone.
If power consumption is 2worse", I'm not bothered with that.... It would indicate extra provisioning (more stability or bandwidth) or extra features... right? As far as SSD performance, people seem to be coming out with nice enough performance on 8xx boards and new Sandforce drives. Certainly the benches I looked at on Cougar Point were equal to SB850.
First link is someone who can't get it to work properly
Second link shows similar performance between them
Third link is from over a year ago and doesn't hold up to the figures I've seen.
Vertex 3 performance is the same (slight differences, overall neither was better) on the benchmarks I saw on a Crosshair IV Formula compared to a P8P67.
amd Raid 0 performance and single driver performance is fine (well it was with my 2 Ultradrive GX 128gb) but Raid 5 is seriously lacking
anandtech makes use of the unoptimized stock windows 7 ahci driver; the difference between intel ahci and amd ahci on their own drivers isn't noticeable and you can only find it in synthetic tests
Im not saying it is horrible, but various reports show its worse, and need for raidexpert and settings manually NCQ doesnt help either.
In the second link performance is similar ,but worse nonetheless.
Anands results are a year old, but what changed ?sb950 is going to be basically the same as sb850 so i dont know.
If you people have some other good performance comparisons, i would be glad to see them.Overall vibe coming from people is that AMDs southbridge and drivers are kinda sub par to intel, not that theyre bad.Just not as good.(well, excluding recent intel major fail of course)
The original presentation has been taken down.:wasntme:
where did you found it?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Gen_Chips.html
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Shipments of AMD FX-series high-end desktop microprocessors will commence on the week of June 20th, 2011
Also posted in the Llano thread.Quote:
Based on a document seen by X-bit labs, AMD plans to release four eight-core AMD FX8000-series chips,
two six-core AMD FX6000-series microprocessors and two quad-core AMD FX4000-series central processing units (CPUs) this year;
four chips are to be launched in Q2 2011, another four processors will be introduced in Q4 2011.
Can't wait to see FX labeled products on the market again!
Boxes :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
http://www.amdforum.se/artikel/exklu...och-fx-4-1025/
very nice BOXes!
I do like that! Nice boxes, even better banners.
As far as motherboards go... Crosshair V Formula....
MSI Big Bang Conqueror?
What else is coming for FX990?
Wow those things are pretty imba looking. AMD CPUs are turning into ATI red.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
About the banner, What 8 core desktop CPU does AMD have? Server sure, desktop, none! :shrug:
lovely! red green blue amd nvidia intel :D
I second that! They look frickin' awesome! If I was a dumb customer I'd buy those processors just because of the packaging :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JkS
Eh? there is no octa core cpu's yet. Zambezi, that is desktop bulldozer, is first octa core.Quote:
Originally Posted by freeloader
I don't see what your confusion is about. The banner is for the upcoming product release. You can't cry foul just because you've seen it early.Quote:
Originally Posted by freeloader
No crying foul. I failed to remember that those banners are in the future. :brick:
I will be at E3, hopefully I'll be there.
High-res. picture of one of the proposed BOX designs:
http://h-5.abload.de/img/8-core_bevmmw.jpg
Rest can be found in comments section here.
ooo, so sweet box, like me, hope, the finale version will be not much diferent
The CPU on the box is a LGA packaged CPU.:rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
I'm not 100% sure that these pictures have leaked from AMD. Why would it have two different designs for the 8 and 4 cores Black Edition CPUs?
Simple 8 cores vs 4 cores. Thats double the performance there potentially. That warrants a slightly different box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
There are two different designs for 8 and 4 cores as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by xBanzai89
That box looks like they are selling instant punch or some sort of lemonade,at least that what came to my mind when I saw it.
Also unlock supremacy,that doesn't make sense.
On other hand I don't care about boxes,and hope the CPU's will be awesome.
The one with the beer tsunami works for me. :ROTF:
So fake!
First, it's and LGA-processors, second, AMD would never claim it's the first 8-core sisnce it isn't and I seriously doubt that they would use words like mega-multitasking or write anything else that is on that box.
Edit: Even if they were real, I doubt AMD would keep any designs with huge waves for now. ;)
Yes they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Boris-
Watch this, it will most likely melt your brain.
...mmm green
someone edit a box with "duh winning" on it please :)
:)...Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
red looks better, its more "agressive"
i wouldnt buy this, just because i am afraid it would bite my finger off when i touch it. so aggressive, me likey
Now that video looks like something AMD would do. Using images on LGA processors and lies isn't the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
No.Just because you think it might look "fishy" doesn't mean it is not real.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Boris-
The images came from AMD Insight Panel. AMD Insight Panel is a place from where you can see what are guys from AMD planning and their market research work.
The boxes are just a concept art work,not the exact representation of future retail products.That's why you see a double notched LGA chip pictured on one of the candidates.Quote:
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