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Thread: WTF!!! Thermalright Heat pipes not containing any fluid?

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    Scam!! It must be! How else could it outperform all other heatsinks.

    ThermalRight is obviously tricking us into buying fake heatpipes.
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    This guy must have been abducted by the aliens and is simply showing signs of a faulty probing. Nothing to see here folks, just some butchered copper and a lack of investigatory journalism.

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    thats the worst review ever, if you have any idea how heatpipes work, you would know that the majority of them, when opened, immediately release their insides in the form of a gas. Had they done that test properly, they would have had the lab equipment setup to capture the gas as the heatpipe was opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    You be the judge...

    Investigation on Phoronix

    Thank God for Tuniq Tower 120s!
    The guys testing methods are pathetic, I'm a little surprised he published this at all.
    He should be analyzing their heat transfer rates not cutting them open to listen for gas escaping or look at fluids running out. This completely fails as logic IMO.
    I haven't any doubt he is releasing TOXIC substances and doesn't realize it.
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    I don't understand what everyone is b*tching on about

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    It's Phoronix dude. The most intensive review they do of something is either firing up one or two OGL Linux benches, or test the load/idle tems of a proc at stock.

    Of course, what did they expect, that when they sliced a heatpipe open, litres of water would pour out? Let's face it, at best - in order to ensure a lack of bat pressure, there's a few droplets. And guess what, they're likely wedged right down in the ends, or somewhere else in the tube. They got lucky with the reaper...

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    I love how the guy says,

    Heatpipes are generally made of copper or aluminum and filled with a fluid such as water, ethanol, MERCURY, or a pressurized gas.
    and then attempts to open them all with bare hands and probably without a mask. Oh yes and don't forget the picture with him trying to cut open some heat pipes with some $2 scissors.

    If he really wanted 2 test it in this manner. He could've cut the tips off and emptied the heat pipes (if there was anything in them) then test the cooler again to see if it performs better, worse or the same.
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    Thermalright makes some of the best air cooler around, they are obviously doing something right.
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    Empty heatpipes are the secret of ultra high performance heatsinks.

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    Does anybody here work for any of the heatpipe companies and has anyone seen the manufacturing process? Was the wick moist? I doubt thy would use mercury?
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    there just no f****in way they use mercury in it. maybe some kind of highly volatile gas or something , but no way such a highly toxic substance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulatin View Post
    Let's face it, at best - in order to ensure a lack of bat pressure, there's a few droplets...
    I see!

    So, these "few droplets" of imaginery/invisible water magically boil at 100 C/212 F, regardless or any pressure or vacuum present, even if your CPU is only 30 C, travel up the wick/sponge, whether or not they actually exist, condenses at the cool end of the pipe, even though no difference in temp can be measured or felt, and instantly cool the other end of the heatpipe...

    Have I basically got this right?

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    Do you remeber those etch-A-sketch toys? Didn't they contain mercury lol
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    Mercury....no way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    I see!

    So, these "few droplets" of imaginery/invisible water magically boil at 100 C/212 F, regardless or any pressure or vacuum present, even if your CPU is only 30 C, travel up the wick/sponge, whether or not they actually exist, condenses at the cool end of the pipe, even though no difference in temp can be measured or felt, and instantly cool the other end of the heatpipe...

    Have I basically got this right?
    Pretty much. Lots of people think that all heat pipes have "stuff" filled in it. I don't even know why people think this. The vapor condensing is the critical part, that's why the pipes are not filled all the way. It's kind of similar how an AC works. Your AC system is filled with gas, not fluid. A similar exchange goes on in the heatpipe, but still... they are still very different.
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    Thermalright makes the best aircoolers on the market... so, whatever they have in their heatpipes or not in no way negatively affects their performance...

    performance is what we all want.. so, whats the issue again?

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    what about gallium it works like mercury but with larger partials so it dost seep into pores

    and so long as it works i dont see the problem and allows light tubes with lots of fins for higher surface aria so i dont see the point
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    SCISSORS????????????????

    Didn't he have some better 'tools'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrywild View Post

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    You should never even dare to judge or bash something that you clearly have only insufficient knowledge about.

    And as already posted: Someone cutting a heatpipe with a pair of scissors? That says more than 1000 words.

    Is someone trying to attract attention with bold claims without any real proof, or is it just me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64dragon View Post
    as long as my heatsink does its job and cools my proc i dont care if theres no substance inside the pipes.
    Yep me to. I don't care what's in it as long as it works great

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    I have a coolermaster gemini what if i cut open the ends of the heatpipes and fill them up whit liters/gallons of artic silver 5. will this improve performance??? or is this not worth the try?

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    Bwahahahaha!

    I just Google'd "heat pipe myth" and this thread came up on the first page (out of 791,000).

    That was fast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disaster_Master View Post
    I have a coolermaster gemini what if i cut open the ends of the heatpipes and fill them up whit liters/gallons of artic silver 5. will this improve performance??? or is this not worth the try?
    watter has more specific energy and better thermal transfer, although it might expand
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