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raydelee
07-12-2005, 10:59 AM
may i know wat is the best bios to pair with UTT & amd64 3500(caa2c) proc on dfi ultra-d sli

thx

187(V)URD@
07-13-2005, 02:31 AM
try the 704-2 bios

soundx98
07-13-2005, 06:42 AM
added to -mini 704 and full ISO:

echo MAJOR BUG IN 704 (Vcore Special 123%+ May Cause CPU Failure/Death In Certain Situations):
echo http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16500

The bios you are recommending could kill the CPU if Special VID is at 123% or above. They'll be a revision in a week or so.

THunDA
07-13-2005, 07:02 AM
Ive actually flashed away from that bios and didnt even wana take the chance of using a different vid combination.. Too scared to kill my precious sandy.. :)

Mussels
07-13-2005, 08:34 PM
the 706 is the 704 with out 116% and above for special VID control, works fine and is safe, but still puts some high volts through your CPU regardless.

My advice is for everyone to stop using 704 and wait for the replacement from oskar wu, he's working on it.

pershoot
07-13-2005, 09:41 PM
The bios you are recommending could kill the CPU if Special VID is at 123% or above. They'll be a revision in a week or so.

??? I am not reccomending anything. I have 'added' the bug statement and the bug link to the ISO and the -mini.

soundx98
07-14-2005, 04:32 AM
no no pershoot. You are doing great!

I was referring to the post from 187(V)URD@ as I was not sure he was aware of the 704-2 issues. I was quoting you to point out the warning.

HARDCORECLOCKER
07-14-2005, 05:48 AM
:D Hehe - bad birds & longnecks say OSKAR wanted to force AMD's CPU sells with the last BIOS revision........, :p: but in my opinion OSKAR wouldn't do such things anyway :D :D :D

:toast:

pershoot
07-14-2005, 09:29 AM
no no pershoot. You are doing great!

I was referring to the post from 187(V)URD@ as I was not sure he was aware of the 704-2 issues. I was quoting you to point out the warning.

ahh k. sorry for the misinterpretation.

:)

187(V)URD@
07-16-2005, 09:10 AM
owh i didn't know that about that bios.
But i am no longer using BH5 anymore but TCCD and since i never had TCCD what bios can you recommand for now?

THunDA
07-16-2005, 09:34 AM
owh i didn't know that about that bios.
But i am no longer using BH5 anymore but TCCD and since i never had TCCD what bios can you recommand for now?

Ive been using the 623-2 for my bh5 and tcc5..

Jumpy70
07-25-2005, 10:19 AM
For OCZ 3200VX is good 623 official bios?

Jumpy70
07-25-2005, 10:20 AM
For OCZ 3200VX is good 623 official bios?

WildKard
08-03-2005, 02:35 AM
I am running the UT SLI-DR with 2 sets of OCZ4002048V3DC-K it is 4 1gb sticks and an X2 4400+

What is the best bios for this combination?

Mussels
08-03-2005, 07:26 AM
try the official 623, its the most balanced of all the bioses so far. not to mention it wont toast your CPU like the naughty 704 :D

HARDCORECLOCKER
08-03-2005, 07:39 AM
try the official 623, its the most balanced of all the bioses so far. not to mention it wont toast your CPU like the naughty 704 :D

:D In my opinion it's 510-2FIX.

:toast:

Sauron_Vie
08-03-2005, 12:14 PM
pershoot - per Oskar's request, please remove the 704 BIOS bro...

Thread here (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=949837&posted=1#post949837[/url)
Oskar's post (http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16500)

Peace :toast:

Does somebody know when oscar will have the bug in the 704-x Bios fixed ??

Huigie
08-03-2005, 01:51 PM
Yep, he does... :p:

Quanticles
08-05-2005, 11:26 PM
Ive been using 623-3 and it's been giving me a hard time. My computer crashes on Windows splash unless i tweak the hell out of the memory settings - and that's at DDR400 (I have DDR550 TCCD)

Mussels
08-05-2005, 11:29 PM
i'm on UTT (OCZ PC-4000 Vx) so maybe thats the diff.

Just moved over to some PC-4800 samsung TCCD and its flying on the bigtoe modded 704 tho.

187(V)URD@
08-08-2005, 05:33 AM
i'm on UTT (OCZ PC-4000 Vx) so maybe thats the diff.

Just moved over to some PC-4800 samsung TCCD and its flying on the bigtoe modded 704 tho.

You said 704 is dangerous and still you use it :p :stick:

Mussels
08-08-2005, 05:59 AM
the bigtoe modded version does not include the dangerous CPU voltage options. therefore, while max voltage is limited, its still quite safe to use.

I've attached it here. This is exactly the same as the 704 that was recalled, but all voltage mulitpliers above 113% are removed, because those are the ones that did damage.

i still recomend that you use higher core voltage rather than the special % increase ones.

edit: "file is too large" bah, someone let me know who to PM it to...

187(V)URD@
08-08-2005, 09:22 AM
the bigtoe modded version does not include the dangerous CPU voltage options. therefore, while max voltage is limited, its still quite safe to use.

I've attached it here. This is exactly the same as the 704 that was recalled, but all voltage mulitpliers above 113% are removed, because those are the ones that did damage.

i still recomend that you use higher core voltage rather than the special % increase ones.

edit: "file is too large" bah, someone let me know who to PM it to...

mail me the bios :)

Mussels
08-08-2005, 10:00 AM
^ sent to "187(V)URD@"

Would be a good idea to remove your email address from public view now, or you'll just get your ass spammed.

187(V)URD@
08-08-2005, 10:11 AM
^ sent to "187(V)URD@"

Would be a good idea to remove your email address from public view now, or you'll just get your ass spammed.

ty done :D

FireDragon
08-10-2005, 03:59 PM
Hey guys sorry about no updates I have moved and have no computer acess right now. I am at the hospital in Norfolk VA with my freind that just broke his neck and am letting him rest so I though I would drop you guys a line...after I make my new crossfire setup I will have the net back and make a bios guide for them so see you all then.

Dragon

FireDragon
08-10-2005, 04:36 PM
I just updated everything...sorry that it took SOOOO DAMN LONG...I will try to not let that happen again in the future...also in the future you can look forward to a Crossfire bios guide for DFI boards...unless someone already has or wants to use that idea...

P.S I am by NO means a relegouse person hell I don't even think I sp it right but if you could ALL think of my bud Mike that is in the N.I.C.U in Norfolk General, VA for breaking C5 in his neck as of now he has NO MOVMENT AT ALL...the reason I ask you to think about him is that it can ONLY help and can't hurt!!!

Dragon

shadowing
08-13-2005, 11:26 AM
Sorry if this was asked like multiple times, but what is the best BIOS for UTT ram like the PC4000 VX?

Mussels
08-13-2005, 10:47 PM
510-2 worked great for me, and from then on things only got better.

if you go above 3.4V make sure to stick some active cooling on those modules, they get pretty hot.

toreide
08-24-2005, 07:47 AM
P.S I am by NO means a relegouse person hell I don't even think I sp it right but if you could ALL think of my bud Mike that is in the N.I.C.U in Norfolk General, VA for breaking C5 in his neck as of now he has NO MOVMENT AT ALL...the reason I ask you to think about him is that it can ONLY help and can't hurt!!!
Dragon

Sorry to hear about your friend. Don't give up, he can still recover. I broke C7 4 years ago in a racing accident. I can now move my body 90% as before the accident. It might be a long and hard journey, but help and support from family and friends is what he needs. :up:

Jacke2k
08-31-2005, 07:46 AM
I'm gooing to get a dfi sli-d motherboard. And i whounder if i can flash the bios whit winflash ?

Mussels
08-31-2005, 01:45 PM
you can flash in windows yes, but dont do it OC'd, and dont do it if you system is unstable. a good idea is to severely underclock your system before flashing... better slow than a corrupterd bios.

Quanticles
09-01-2005, 06:27 AM
you can flash in windows yes, but dont do it OC'd, and dont do it if you system is unstable. a good idea is to severely underclock your system before flashing... better slow than a corrupterd bios.

I wouldnt worry about it being underclocked or overclocked. As long as you're not worried about the system crashing while you're doing it it should be fine. There is a verification step when you flash that will make sure it was flashed correctly. I would close out other applications to prevent the system from crashing though.

Mussels
09-01-2005, 07:07 PM
quanticles:

With the 704BT bios my ram was dying slowly. i'd pass 24 hours of OCCT testing / prime95, go for 4-6 hours of memtest, and on the next reboot it would crash in seconds on the most random things, usually at idle rather than load. with the utter instability of it, i can only reccomend that people play it safe this time around.

Quanticles
09-02-2005, 04:33 AM
quanticles:

With the 704BT bios my ram was dying slowly. i'd pass 24 hours of OCCT testing / prime95, go for 4-6 hours of memtest, and on the next reboot it would crash in seconds on the most random things, usually at idle rather than load. with the utter instability of it, i can only reccomend that people play it safe this time around.

ouch. maybe corrupt OS?

when i thought my ram was slowly dying, it turned out to be the memory controller. I ran memtest for 8 hours, then the poor 4400+ never booted again.

Mussels
09-02-2005, 04:46 AM
i swapped to Vx 4000 and bam, everything was good.

it did kill the ram, and it did it by overvolting (going back to tony/bigtoe to get that confirmed officially)

Troman and everyone else who asks: use the offical 623 bios. it works.

Jacke2k
09-05-2005, 02:23 AM
Heyy I need some help.
I'm about to fire up my dfi nf4 sli-d motherboard.
What bios should i use for my setup ?

And what program should i use in windows to flash ?

Monge
09-06-2005, 04:40 AM
FireDragon: Thanks for a very nice bios guide :)
Pershoot: Thanks for a very usefull CD-rom with all bios revisions to date :)
But what does /py /sn /cd /cp /cc /LD /R /f mean? Py =?, sn=? and so on...
I'm using 510-2Fix with my DFI NF4 Ultra-D, 3000+ 0517DPMW and 2*512MB Twinmos Speed Premium at 260MHz@3.3v in orange slots (better than yellow on my board). Maybe I should try 510-2 Hellfire? Will this bios allow me to go higher with my Twinmos?

Monge

Update:
I found out, what the switch /py /sn etc. mean here:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/print/award-bios-update.html

cxl
09-07-2005, 11:49 AM
Hi, I'm kind of new to the newer generation of DFI motherboards.
So I'm just interested in wich BIOSs i should test, its an X2 CPU so I don't know how old BIOSs i can test, so a recommendation would be nice. But I know that a BIOS ins't good on all hardware, so you don't have to give me that rant too ;)

Cheers

FireDragon
09-13-2005, 04:38 AM
It says right in the guide when X2 suport was added it was LONG before the cpus came out

Dragon

hardnrg
09-14-2005, 09:18 AM
man, my head hurts after reading this thread... currently i'm using the 623 bios (pretty sure it's an official release) and am thinking about flashing to the 310 final...

edit: nm, i see you need 510 or newer for RevE

i'm swaying more towards the 623-3 bios now seeing as i'm pretty happy with the bios as it is, and just want it a little more suitable for tccd rather than a general one...

vlad
09-15-2005, 02:52 PM
310 has been good to me with TCCD, Max bench stable 340htt/ 300htt 24/7. But that is with Winn/Claw core.

Abducted
09-20-2005, 07:37 AM
Sorry if this has been answered before, but i just post a thread over at PCPer.com asking the following question:


Over at xtremesystems.org this is what it's says about the -1/-2/-3 versions of BIOS files: "(-1 for TCCD/Micron/UTT-CH/UTT-BH/BH/CH This is the general bios that should work ok but is not optimized for any specific memory, -3 for TCCD/Micron, -2 for UTT-CH/UTT-BH/BH/CH)"

While at techpowerup.com it says this: "(* -3 for both kinds of rams (310 ram table), -1 for TCCD etc. (326 ram table), -2 for BH5/CH5 etc. (316 ram table))"

So i figured the -1 and the -3 version got switched around. But when i used a CRC file checker to compare the -3 version from XS.org with the -1 version of Techpowerup.com they didn't match. So there must be something wrong.
I would trust XS.org a little bit more, BUT of you look at the DFI website their BIOS file is named "N4D623-3" and according to Techpowerup.com that would stand for general use and that would make sence when downloading a BIOS from DFI. Also the N4D623-3 version from Techpowerup and from the DFI website do match. So i really think XS.org is wrong here.

Can somebody explain this to me please? Thanks :D

\Karting_freak
09-22-2005, 07:15 AM
what bios should i use for old school bh-5 & venice?

soundx98
09-22-2005, 09:18 AM
I'd try the latest 7/04-2bta from BigToe

\Karting_freak
09-22-2005, 09:19 AM
soundx98
tnks
i'll try as soon as i get all the hardware +)

Mussels
09-29-2005, 06:49 PM
anything from 310 up i think. just use 623, latest official.

Budwise
10-06-2005, 08:32 PM
i just ordered a NF4 UT Ultra-D and am matching up a 7800 GT to it with a pair of 2X1GB Ballistix. Can you guys give me a recommended bios for OCing my 3800 X2 with my Ballistix? My other concern was are there any clearance problems for the 7800 cards clearing that chipset cooler?

Mussels
10-07-2005, 06:31 AM
gah dont use the bigtoe. while it fixed the CPU voltage killer bug, it still has RAM volts spikes on some boards (not many) which can hurt your ram. i have DDR600 here that screws up at IDLE now, never at load (memtest/OCCT lasts for 12+ hours, yet it wont sit idle for 15 minutes without a BSOD)

L1br1x
10-11-2005, 01:55 AM
Can i use it for DFI NF4-DAGF motherboard?

P.S. Latest bios at DFI website - CK84D811 (2005/08/11).

Mussels
10-11-2005, 02:06 AM
i dont know about the DAGF. I think the DAGF and infinity boards each have their own bios, and they arent compatible. the bios you list would be 8-11 and the latest official for the SLI/Ultras is 6-23, so i wouldnt try it.

Budwise
10-16-2005, 08:49 AM
since im not using TCCD, the 623-3 bios would not be the best for me right? Im guessing i should use the 623-1 (non memory specific) since my Ballistix are Micron chips and the 623-2 bios is for BH memory...

Mussels
10-16-2005, 04:45 PM
the 623-3 is for all ram types, and works the bestfor all of them.

Budwise
10-16-2005, 07:59 PM
i just flashed to it from 704-2BTA. It seems to give me the same stability... I guess ill stay with this for warranty reasons.

Monge
11-18-2005, 01:32 AM
New Beta BIOS 11/14 for DFI NF4:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=80240&page=1&pp=25

Mussels
11-18-2005, 04:09 AM
OMG! new bios! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

THanks monge, would never have known without you. (subscribed to this thread)


Edit: and it only adds FX60 support :( le poo. Anyone got any other results from it?

Monge
11-18-2005, 05:28 AM
Mussels: np :)
Haven't tried it yet - 704-2BTA now and need to install my Opteron 146 first.
Look in the thread for results

IvanAndreevich
11-20-2005, 10:16 PM
Anybody try that new bios?

Mussels
11-20-2005, 11:00 PM
it looks like its the 623 official with only FX60 support added. I didnt see any need to upgrade to it, you can test it and tell me if you OC any better :D

Carlz0r
12-06-2005, 09:00 PM
I haven't flashed yet as I want to confirm something. When flashing, do your saved bios settings also get erased? I forget the actual name for it where you can save 4 different sets of settings.

Mussels
12-06-2005, 09:12 PM
CMOS reloaded.

And while the flash itself doesnt erase your settings (it wont touch the CMOS reloaded, ever) you should most definately load the optimised defaults and work your way from there, its never good to use settings from a previous BIOS.

You're better off CMOS reloading it in case you go back for some reason, and simply writing down the important settings and using them if you stay on the new bios.

Carlz0r
12-06-2005, 09:13 PM
Alright, will try that then. Also, is there any way to tell which bios it is currently running? I have no real need to know it, just wanna find out for the hell of it.

Mussels
12-06-2005, 09:36 PM
at the bottom of the BIOS menu, or the bottom of the screen when the PC powers on (so long as that pretty picture is disabled) it should have a date code.

6/23/05 = 623. its the date, in US format.

muzz
12-17-2005, 06:27 AM
Dude.... you're running a beta bios. get the hell over it.
go back to 310P and you wont have it, these bioses are not meant to be stable or officially supported.


I have tried EVERY Bios man, beta bios my arse..
What do ya think this is, rookie day?
BAH

I can't believe I didn't see this statement B4.

Tow the company line, tow the company line........

Sorry for bumping up a 7 month old thread(EDIT: 7 month old post), but that statement was just ridiculous.

Good day

m

FireDragon
12-17-2005, 01:07 PM
I have tried EVERY Bios man, beta bios my arse..
What do ya think this is, rookie day?
BAH

I can't believe I didn't see this statement B4.

Tow the company line, tow the company line........

Sorry for bumping up a 7 month old thread, but that statement was just ridiculous.

Good day

m

Ha ha it is a sticky so it really dosnt matter lol it is ALWAY on ront page...

Dragon

BTW any word on new bios any one know if the expert bios are the same or if i should add them?

Mussels
12-17-2005, 04:23 PM
expert bioses are different and will kill the boards, so if you want to pile them up use a different thread and/or CD image.

'Muzz' if you've tried every bios, then its a problem with your system not the bios.

and yes its a stickied thread, and we all come back when theres new bioses out.

muzz
12-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Thats right, I don't remember saying there was a problem with the bios, I was hoping there would be some kind of Bios fix for my boards bootup issues.

Yeah I guess I didn't bump up this thread, I went back to my previous posts to see if anything was found regarding the cold boot issue....

eBoy0
12-18-2005, 11:57 AM
Anybody try that new bios?

Having problems ever since i flashed to these bios... when i first got my mobo(SLI-DR)... which is now 5 days old it ran everything fine, booted on first try and everything... i flashed to the new bios mobo didn't even post... when it did 1/5 time my sata1/2 wouldn't get detected and raid0 wouldn't run properly.... flashed back to 6/23 bios and now i'm still having simular issues..:mad: basically i get 1 LED and no display..

TEDY
12-22-2005, 09:19 AM
What BIOS is best for OCZ VX3200 and OPTY 146???

i have 618-2 now

Should i flash at all ?

muzz
01-04-2006, 07:32 PM
BTW for HTPC usage I have added 2x512 Twinmoss UTT to my BH-5 2x256 sticks.
I OBVIOUSLY had to change the CPC to off, and I adjusted the ram settings from 11-2-2-2 to 11-3-3-2.5....
The cold boot issue SEEMS to be gone( for 3 days straight it's booted right up), yet I am STILL booting at 250fsb,with the same hardware as before(same voltages also).
The 2x256 Corsair would run Memtest in WINDOWS all day at the settings it wouldn't boot at(and higher, not to mention 3dmark looped, and prime without issues), and the 1.5gb of mixed ram will run it now at the reduced settings np...
This tells me it's a hardware issue.......
It would SEEM to be a timings issue, but since I could run everything MUCH higher than the settings it wouldn't boot at, boot tells me it's a boot/hardware issue with the board.

Jet plane without a place to take off from........

Oh well this POS is at least working at some settings without having to hit insert 100 times to get it to boot.

I guess I have that going for me.......:rolleyes:

Mussels
01-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Muzz, i've heard that there is a setting in the memory options on the 623 and up bios with "normal, fast, faster" as options. I was told by an OCZ rep to "leave it alone, thats for corsair ram"

I dont know if it will help you, but since you have corsair ram problems, give it a try on all the settings.

muzz
01-05-2006, 07:17 AM
Muzz, i've heard that there is a setting in the memory options on the 623 and up bios with "normal, fast, faster" as options. I was told by an OCZ rep to "leave it alone, thats for corsair ram"

I dont know if it will help you, but since you have corsair ram problems, give it a try on all the settings.

I may do that M, Thanks for the info.
I don't THINK it'll change anything, because as I stated B4(maybe in this thread, but I surely mentioned it in other threads) this also happens with JUST my 2x256 GSkill 431 LE(TCCD) set installed...

I may just leave it alone for now cuz it has booted str8 up 3 days in a row heheh.

Thanks again

m

muzz
01-07-2006, 12:15 PM
I may do that M, Thanks for the info.
I don't THINK it'll change anything, because as I stated B4(maybe in this thread, but I surely mentioned it in other threads) this also happens with JUST my 2x256 GSkill 431 LE(TCCD) set installed...

I may just leave it alone for now cuz it has booted str8 up 3 days in a row heheh.

Thanks again

m

I cursed myself with the above post........
It didn't boot the next day......
Hence " If you aren't having trouble booting with an Ultra-D, don't mention the words bootup out loud, or even type these words"
And definitely don't talk about flashing the Bios, the current bios gets Pi$$ed and will make you miserable. :stick:

heheheh

FireDragon
01-27-2006, 11:48 PM
I was wondering what you guys are running for dual core optis and UTT i have found that the 5.10-XCEL2-LL work the best post what bios and timmings...and i will go from there and edit the thread with that info..I will post my timmings lattter i am not at home...

but 245 3.2 volts anything higer and i get wrrors no matter the bios and some not even stable at that...

Dragon

Mussels
01-28-2006, 12:55 AM
this may sound stupid firedragon, but at 245 did you forget the LDT multi? around those numbers i have a deadspot of a few MHz, because the LDT MHz are either way high or too low.

phelan1777
02-05-2006, 06:31 PM
Okay I am confused, so many BIOS..................

Can someone elaborate on this for me?

My sig is my current system, and advice for a better BIOS if there is a better potion?

RommelD
02-08-2006, 05:33 AM
Okay I am confused, so many BIOS..................

Can someone elaborate on this for me?

My sig is my current system, and advice for a better BIOS if there is a better potion?

I got the same problem.

Have a X2 3800 + and a DFI NF4 Ultra-D combined with G-Skill PC 3500 BH-5, and not sure which bios is the best for me.

Penny for your thoughts.... :toast:

g0dM@n
02-23-2006, 05:43 AM
Okay I am confused, so many BIOS..................

Can someone elaborate on this for me?

My sig is my current system, and advice for a better BIOS if there is a better potion?
We can't see your sig unless we click on your "view profile"... it's best to let people know that cuz I knew just by trying it out.

In any case, I see you have UTT BH/CH stuff (bh or ch??). I can tell you one thing... for memtest stability, I gained 10mhz fsb by going from the 623-3 bios to the 702-3 bios. That was for my hyperx BH5 (old school). I went from like 262fsb to 272fsb...

I think the reason why most people are using the 702 and 704 beta bioses is b/c they are actually doing the best for most people. With UTT stuff, you should try out all 3 versions, but usually the -2 or -3 do the best.

Leon939
02-23-2006, 11:08 PM
I got the same problem.

Have a X2 3800 + and a DFI NF4 Ultra-D combined with G-Skill PC 3500 BH-5, and not sure which bios is the best for me.

Penny for your thoughts.... :toast:


623-2 best bios for BH5

RommelD
02-24-2006, 03:18 AM
Isn't the 702-2 or 704-2 better? As mentioned above your post?

Santo
02-28-2006, 02:57 AM
I have the 704-3 (TCCD optimised I know :D ) with my G.Skill GBGH Winbond UTT-BH5 and it works fine :)
(because before I had Corsair XMS PC4400C25 TCCD ;) )
This BIOS is good for my mobo, I don't change it.

hovo73
03-04-2006, 03:43 PM
I am back to tweaking tweaking my PC after more than 6 months. I have read this entire thread and some others and I am still not sure which ones to try and which ones to avoid. Can somebody please recommend which BIOS to try and which ones to avoid. My specs are:

DFI NF4 Ultra-D
Winchester 3000+

Memory Set (1)
2x512 PDP Patriot XBLK PC3200 TCCD
2x512 OCZ EL Platinum Rev 2 v1.1 PC3200 TCCC

Memory Set (2)
2x512 OCZ EL Gold BH5 PC3200 UTT/BH5
2x512 OCZ EL Gold VX PC4000 UTT/CH5

I have tried some earier BIOS which I don't remember. The last 2 I have tried were 510-2 and 510-3FIX.

My CPU seems to be topping out at around 9x280 so my goal is either:
(a) Run TCC* memory with 200 devider (10:10) at 280MHz and 2.5-3-3-x-1t or 2.5-4-3-x-1t timings.
(b) Run UTT memory with 180 divider (09/10) at 252MHz and 2-2-2-x-1T timings.

I have been able to do (b) many times before (with enough voltage), but I have never been able to do (a).

Which RAM do I use for each of these 2 configurations?
It seems like 704 can kill your CPU with 123%+ special control, has that been fixed? I am using 1.325+123% on my CPU so I am assuming I should avoid it?
What other BIOS should I avoid?

Thanks

ReelMonza
03-04-2006, 03:54 PM
I suggest you try BIOS 623 as I could achieve my goal, DDR600 2-3-3-7-1T with it so I think you should try it in case you didn't already

hovo73
03-04-2006, 03:58 PM
I suggest you try BIOS 623 as I could achieve my goal, DDR600 2-3-3-7-1T with it so I think you should try it in case you didn't already

Thanks for your response ReelMonza, is that the official 6-23 BIOS or one of the modded 6-23-x ones?

Any more suggestions?

ReelMonza
03-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Well, the one that was good for me was 623 official, didn't experiment with modded ones.

I've already tried 629, 702 and 310p but none of them were as good as 623 was for me, sticks in the orange slots btw.

techPowerUp! has lots of BIOS, you should take a look :

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/114

hovo73
03-05-2006, 11:22 AM
OK, so I decided to flash to 6.23 official bios (which as I found out is the same as 6.23-3, is that correct?)

I downloaded pershoot's ISO image and made a CD. I was able to boot from it and browse the menus (using the function keys) so I assumed it should be working fine. I loaded the optimized defaults in the current BIOS (5.10-3FIX) and booted from the CD and selected the 6.23-3 BIOS.

But now I am stuck at this screen, I don't know what to do:




AwardBIOS Flash Utility V8.60B
(C) Phoenix Technologies Ltd. All Rights Reserved


For NF-CK804-6a61fd491-00 Date: 6/23/2005
Flash Type - SST 49LF004A/B /3.3V

File Name to Program: [ a:\b\n4d623-3.bin _ ]

Warning: Don't Turn Off Power or Reset System!



It just sits there with cursor blinking after the BIOS file name and doing nothing. It has been almost half an hour.

There is no progress bar yet, as it happens when it starts flashing BIOS.

I am assuming the flash hasn't started yet, yes? Will I get my system back if I restart?

What do I do?

EDIT:

OK, so after waiting for about an hour I decided that I have nothing to loose so I crossed my fingers and hit the reset button. Fortunately the system booted into Windows with all the previous settings.

I wander what went wrong though? I really would like to use pershoot's ISO disk to do my flashes, as it is very convinient. Anyone has any ideas?

Thanks.

Mussels
03-05-2006, 01:19 PM
i think you were meant to hit enter at that stage to start the flashing

hovo73
03-05-2006, 04:21 PM
i think you were meant to hit enter at that stage to start the flashing

Hmmm, I did, many times I think.

Mussels
03-05-2006, 04:59 PM
well if that didnt work, thats just odd. I havent flashed that way in ages, 623 has been out a while :P

tried another image, burned with other software or something?

FireDragon
03-25-2006, 07:55 AM
this may sound stupid firedragon, but at 245 did you forget the LDT multi? around those numbers i have a deadspot of a few MHz, because the LDT MHz are either way high or too low.

LOL no i didnt...and i have tried every bios in my list...and the higest that i can get is 255...and that just isnt aceptible for me considering my old sticks would do 270+ on my winnie then one decided to die then the other soon after in my freinds rig last time i let anyone use my ram....So really i was just wondering what has been working with you guys...

BTW i have tried EVERY POSSIBLE memory timming setup..i have 2 note books full of the settings that i have treid the voltages and the max speed...and that is how i am at 255 now...

Dragon

IvanAndreevich
04-02-2006, 03:53 PM
Finally a new bios - NF4LD329-3. Has anybody tried it?! What are the changes?

Mussels
04-02-2006, 04:07 PM
i'm on it now. it just seems to be a few bug-fixes and cold boot fixes (apparently caused by a PS2 mouse with a USB keyboard).

only real change to report is that FSB speeds reset to 200, due to a change in how it was written. be sure to check your CMOS reloaded profiles have set the right number if/when you load em.

edit: my OC results arent useful, since just recently i lost 200MHz overclock for some unknown reason. so my results wont be reliable.

IvanAndreevich
04-02-2006, 04:45 PM
DO NOT USE THIS BIOS

It just killed my SLI-DR. 3 red leds on boot. Winflash reported bios flashing successful.

Mussels
04-02-2006, 08:22 PM
uh-oh. did you do a CMOS reset? i had to hold down the ins key to get mine to boot, but it worked fine after that...

pershoot
04-03-2006, 03:16 PM
posted twice, seemed fine. 3rd post set ram timings and ram voltage (like i always do), saved, no post, ever again. no blinking lights, ram light + led at the bottom on, no beep from speaker, 2 reds on. cleared cmos/battery/ins key, etc., etc. nothing.

2 should be video. i shall try to snag a pci vid card and check it out b4 getting another board.

Paa`
04-03-2006, 07:32 PM
DO NOT USE THIS BIOS

It just killed my SLI-DR. 3 red leds on boot. Winflash reported bios flashing successful.

Had severe problems with this new bios aswell.

Getting random bsod's and crashes and errors and anything else my pc can think of.

MRM402
04-12-2006, 12:02 AM
Helllo! I'm a noob in BIOS stuff... Could you guys point me out which BIOS to download?

DFI LanParty UT nF4 Ultra-D
AMD 4000+
2x1GB Corsair PC3200
XFX 7900GT

Any help would be extremely apreciated. Thank you.

Mussels
04-12-2006, 02:45 PM
try the 623-3, get it off www.dfi.com.tw in the download/support section for your board.

FireDragon
04-20-2006, 05:53 AM
or he could go to the link in this thread that is what it is for...btw new DFI bios relesed...

FireDragon

"not yet sure of the name?" http://eu.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3471&STATUS_FLAG=A&SITE=UK:D
1 . Remove Write CAS latency item and replace it by Odd Divisor Select.
2 . Add support for SST 49LF040B LPC flash ROM.
3 . Add CPU temperature calibration option.
4 . Fix ps2 mouse fail when ps2 kb not present.
5 . Fix s1/s3 temp error after resume.
6 . Fix startup VID option fail.
7 . Fix C 'n'O.5 multiplier not working with Opteron CPU.
8 . Fix day of month alarm can not set as 0 for every day usage.
9 . Fix NF4-D model display error if SATA3/4 is disabled.
10 . Fix ATI X1000 series logo error.
11. Change FSB option to keyIn method.
12 . Change 3114 ROM to 5.2.1.6 .
13 . Change NV RAID ROM to 5.50 .
14 . Change memtest86+ to 1.65 .
15 . Synchronize DRAM related code with Expert and Venus.

Bourch
04-20-2006, 06:19 AM
1 . Remove Write CAS latency item and replace it by Odd Divisor Select.
Can someone explain me what is it for? <-- Edit: Didn´t read Tony's thread. Forget it. Sorry!


15 . Synchronize DRAM related code with Expert and Venus.
What about cold boot problem? is it gone?

Last question. I suffered cold boot problem last year and I sold my OVZ VX. Currently I am running 6.23 bios with OCZ Plat Rev.2 on the yellow slots. With this bios wich slots are better for my TCCD?

Thanks

Mussels
04-20-2006, 03:52 PM
the link fails, says its not on the server... (On the DFI site)

xirokx
04-23-2006, 05:48 AM
I have an dfi nf4 sli dr mobo, which one of those applies to me?

Its my first DFI mobo so I would appreciate all bios help :D

thanks

Mussels
04-23-2006, 06:47 AM
this entire thread is about the board you have xirokx.

Dont update unless you need to (or really want to), because a few people every update have problems. the majority are all good but its best to be safe.

Napoleonic
05-12-2006, 01:16 AM
now i'm using DFI
what and where is the best bios for the DFI NF4 Ultra D and Opty 165?

thanks

p3tar
06-07-2006, 10:55 PM
hi guys.
geee,:eek: after i have read this thread maybee i wont buy miself a DFI UT LanParty Ultra-D,cause i kinda planned to upgrade my bios after i buy it(tomorrow),but reading this I think its "imposible" to decide what BIOS to put :( .My CPU will be Opteron 165 and RAM OCZ Platinum pc4000 EB, sooo..any advice or should i go with latest BIOS on DFI website if I decide to stick with LP.Thanks

Bourch
06-07-2006, 11:12 PM
hi guys.
geee,:eek: after i have read this thread maybee i wont buy miself a DFI UT LanParty Ultra-D,cause i kinda planned to upgrade my bios after i buy it(tomorrow),but reading this I think its "imposible" to decide what BIOS to put :( .My CPU will be Opteron 165 and RAM OCZ Platinum pc4000 EB, sooo..any advice or should i go with latest BIOS on DFI website if I decide to stick with LP.Thanks

There are many bios mods and specific ram optimized bios but latest one from DFI should be OK (if you buy it)

Mussels
06-07-2006, 11:38 PM
saying you wont buy because of a lack of patience is pretty sad, even if someone had the exact same hardware as you, that doesnt mean the same bios will work the same. You have to try them out and see what suits you.

Edit: obviously the latest is a good start. I dont have an opteron, but it works fine with my venice.

p3tar
06-08-2006, 12:31 AM
patience isnt the problem, i have lots of patience.Time and frustration is,cause i know i aint just that lucky to hit the right BIOS in short time(i am not quite an optimist.:slapass: ).Ill buy DFI,and i guess ill try latest stock BIOS first.(improving my character :D ). :toast:

Mussels
06-08-2006, 01:43 AM
time and frustration not equal patience? it does in my book :P

mustrum
11-23-2006, 05:45 AM
Hey guys!
I have a little problem i hope you can help me with:
My RAM/bios seems to hate any other divider then 100/166/200.
I got an awesome X2 3800+ that runs 3ghz ad default vcore primestable but i can't get above 3070mhz because my RAM hits it's limit there on the 166 divider.
If i could use the 140 divider i could max out the CPU and prolly hit 3.2 GHZ.

I am using 2x 1024 GSkill ZX modules on a DFI Lanparty 4 ULTRA D.
Used bios: N4D704-2BTA (BigToe Mod)

Is it even possible to run a 140 divider with that RAM?

Mussels
11-23-2006, 02:36 PM
It's down to the CPU, as to what dividers work. So you're screwed on that count. I have some nice DDR600 that needs no dividers so can i have your CPU? :D



Hey guys!
I have a little problem i hope you can help me with:
My RAM/bios seems to hate any other divider then 100/166/200.
I got an awesome X2 3800+ that runs 3ghz ad default vcore primestable but i can't get above 3070mhz because my RAM hits it's limit there on the 166 divider.
If i could use the 140 divider i could max out the CPU and prolly hit 3.2 GHZ.

I am using 2x 1024 GSkill ZX modules on a DFI Lanparty 4 ULTRA D.
Used bios: N4D704-2BTA (BigToe Mod)

Is it even possible to run a 140 divider with that RAM?

mustrum
11-24-2006, 07:31 AM
It's down to the CPU, as to what dividers work. So you're screwed on that count. I have some nice DDR600 that needs no dividers so can i have your CPU? :D
Are you sure about that? It didn't work with y former CPU either and i think i read in the G.Skill GBZX thread that many ZX users have that problem.

Anyways - i'd never ever give that CPU up. It's fantastic. ;)

Mussels
11-24-2006, 03:13 PM
Are you sure about that? It didn't work with y former CPU either and i think i read in the G.Skill GBZX thread that many ZX users have that problem.

Anyways - i'd never ever give that CPU up. It's fantastic. ;)


Its dependant on the ram controller, dividers dont actually affect the ram at all, except to change its MHz, the dividers are part of the CPU's ram controller.

SO yeah, its pretty CPU dependant, DFI just add the options in anyway in case you get lucky.

macaddict
11-29-2006, 07:37 AM
Hi guys, Got my 'NewEgg Special' LanParty UT SLI Expert on the way now. Is it safe to say that NF4ED406 BIOS has been out long enough now that I should be ok to flash it if needed? I need to use the floppy method or is WinFlash ok to use? Who the heck still uses the floppy drive?!?! LOL TIA

Magnj
01-15-2007, 12:56 PM
Does anyone have a copy of DFI_BIOSROM.rar

Ya3su
01-22-2007, 03:25 AM
Hi.
recently i've bougt an opteron 180.
i have an nf4 sli-d mobo but with the default bios.
i have a TeamXtreem cronus micron 2x1Gb kit.
Can somebody help me whit the bios update? Wich bios will be the best for mi system? :confused:

sorry for my english. Thx

Hampti
01-31-2007, 04:37 AM
Hello.

i also need a good or let me say better bios.

i have a DFI Venus with an X2 an Samsung UCCC. Is there any mod bios ala Merlin or Wu?

thanks f&#252;r your help

hampti

Xplod
03-26-2007, 03:24 PM
What would be the best bios for a DFI nf4 Ultra-D to go along with 2 x 1Gb G-Skill 2GBHX and an Opteron 165 :confused:

Normally the ram should have Infineon BE-5 chips + Brainpower PCB.

2BIG4U
02-25-2008, 11:33 AM
My brother has:

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136157

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210

I bought him X2 3800+ Manchester (was 3000+ Venice). Before OC need to flash a new BIOS. What Bios is the best for this rig? Thank you

BobWyaJnr
03-07-2008, 01:31 PM
My brother has:

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136157

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210

I bought him X2 3800+ Manchester (was 3000+ Venice). Before OC need to flash a new BIOS. What Bios is the best for this rig? Thank you

Hi 2BIG4U

I am using the DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D - so practically identical to your motherboard but with a few bits missing (!!) - which I recently bought on Ebay.

I updated to:
http://http://eu.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...=A &SITE=UK:D (DFI Official BIOS v4.06)
Listed under unidentified in the 1st post sticky (naming it NF4LD406.ZIP is a bit of a give away I think to the version number - no?).

This is a great BIOS. Loads of RAM strength tweaking options. Just flashed the BIOS under Windows (sweet no floppy :banana::banana::banana::banana:!!) I got a Athlon 64 3000+ Venice running at 2.5Ghz with the FSB 1:1 @275Mhz (2x 512Mb good quality Kingston RAM sticks) @ CAS3.0/2T, with 3V. Super PI of 36 seconds... I built the board up for a guy at work... but I wanted to keep it myself!!

DFI are really great... They even sent out the Karajan audio module and the motherboard I/O plate out free of charge to me within a week of me emailing support!! Bloody E-bay sellers losing these important parts...

Bob

izallica
05-10-2008, 11:09 PM
anyone can tell me which the best bios for corsair uccc+dfi nf4sli expert..... ?

FireDragon
06-11-2008, 06:51 PM
Wow guys good to still c this thread going i have been out of the OC loop for a while....And yeah finding the right bios for ur cpsand ram ad the timming u want c b a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Dragon

dmo580
02-10-2011, 11:29 AM
im using the latest stock bios and I just resurrected my system

I booted from CD and installed FreeNAS onto my USB stick. I took two 7200.9s and made them a RAID-0 array. I'm just testing before I buy 4x Samsung F4 2TB drives. But after I formatted and made those 2 drives a striped array in ZFS, I rebooted and now I get perma stuck at the BIOS splash screen.

Does this board freak out with ZFS or something? I decided to screw it and pull my USB stick and boot with 1 drive only, even if it kills the array (just testing data anyway). No go. Either drive = stuck at splash screen.

What the heck??? With the drives removed it boots into FreeNAS just fine.

NEOAethyr
03-14-2011, 06:33 AM
:shrug:
Where's the bios'es I made for those boards :confused:.
:(

I made bios'es for all those board's including the umm, what was it called, the venus.
Plus I made a diagram to show how to mod it into the pro chipset.
I made a bios for those pro modded board's too "I think", not sure anymore though...

The only thing I can remember is someone stealing stuff out of my bios..., I remember that...
Ohwells, that board is so old anyways, still...

techtrancer
08-26-2013, 09:16 AM
So bad to read this :(

Your Mod Bios should Live!

939 & DFI was the best Socket & Bios ever

D0m|nat0R
08-26-2013, 04:39 PM
http://classicplatforms.com/bios/page1.html?agree=0

techtrancer
08-30-2013, 05:49 PM
Did you know more about merlin?

miss him and his Bios