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eva2000
11-14-2004, 09:20 PM
DFI powered

Powercolor X800XT PE Stock heatsink @ 605/605 = 33,453 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245398)

DX8.1 with Omega 8.07
Win2K SP4 latest updates

Full system config in compre url description field :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453.jpg)

:cool:

ahfung
11-14-2004, 09:25 PM
with my OCZ EL PC3500 ,i go only to 260 ,but with more woltage :

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overcrash86/Overcrash86/3400+/OCZ@260.jpg

Nice overclock, though I feel you could higher in sandra mem.

http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachments/forumid_13/ouKf_a64_2600.gif

ahfung
11-14-2004, 09:27 PM
DFI powered

Powercolor X800XT PE Stock heatsink @ 605/605 = 33,453 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245398)

DX8.1 with Omega 8.07
Win2K SP4 latest updates

Full system config in compre url description field :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200/2x512/2_4/LDT_AUTO/11x/246-246-2226-1T-1.75-3.48-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_605-605_33453.jpg)

:cool:

Man that's sick!!! :slobber: :toast:
Btw, is omega better than vanilla 8.07 in 3dm01?

eva2000
11-14-2004, 09:44 PM
i think omega 8.07 is slightly faster than ATI's 8.07beta

ahfung
11-14-2004, 10:04 PM
i think omega 8.07 is slightly faster than ATI's 8.07beta

Btw have you tried the official 4.11? I feel it's faster than 3dm3 and 05 then the beta one. Not sure on 01 though

Too bad that 4.12 beta doesn't work on win2000...

eva2000
11-14-2004, 10:16 PM
cat 4.11 still slower than Omega 8.07 for me in 3d2k1 and 3d2k3 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45705 haven't paid attention much to 3d2k05 though

STEvil
11-14-2004, 11:30 PM
you guys running old control panel style or newer ccc?

spaceman
11-15-2004, 12:23 AM
I think I am going to get the 3400+ DTR from NewEgg. It is a ClawHammer and it says it is a C0 Stepping. I would love to have a NewCastle 62w CG Stepping. But I am sure the shipping on one from Overseas is unreal.

EDIT:

Also, I notice the all the pictures of the DTRs the IHS is already removed. If they come like this as so...would I have the mod my XP-120 and retention bracket in anyway to have it make good contact with it? It was just something I remember wondering.
I'm 95% sure all DTRs are CGs. And as far as heatsinks go, just drill a couple big old holes in your mobo tray, and it won't matter how long the screws are, for the backplate. I've never used a retention bracket, I just mount my HS straight through to the backplate. :)

eva2000
11-15-2004, 01:22 AM
you guys running old control panel style or newer ccc?
old control panel .. since Omega 8.07 don't need CCC :)

thought I'd smash the 34k barrier :D

Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 606/604 = 34,008 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245604)

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008.jpg)

:D

ahfung
11-15-2004, 01:42 AM
old control panel .. since Omega 8.07 don't need CCC :)

thought I'd smash the 34k barrier :D

Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 606/604 = 34,008 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245604)

http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008_tn.jpg (http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/6002_650/3700/Kingston/KHX3200K2/2x256/3_4/LDT_AUTO/10x/271-271-2226-1T-1.81-3.58-1.5-1.8_16x_7x_dsLVL2_3120/3dmark2001_X800XTPE_606-604_34008.jpg)

:D

Your 3700+ is a nice chip. What's the cooling and room temperature?
3DMark01 really love high FSB with tight memory timing!

ugp
11-15-2004, 03:40 AM
I'm 95% sure all DTRs are CGs. And as far as heatsinks go, just drill a couple big old holes in your mobo tray, and it won't matter how long the screws are, for the backplate. I've never used a retention bracket, I just mount my HS straight through to the backplate. :)
Well there are some of them that are C0. Whether or not that is what I get I am not sure. Hopefully what ever I get is a good clocker and I can atleast get 2.4/2.5ish out of it. My heatsink should be here today :D My arm is going to be tired from lapping it I can tell you that.

But I will let everyone know the exact stepping codes on the CPU and what I can get out of it when I get it up and running and 'overclocked'

ugp
11-15-2004, 03:43 AM
I'm 95% sure all DTRs are CGs. And as far as heatsinks go, just drill a couple big old holes in your mobo tray, and it won't matter how long the screws are, for the backplate. I've never used a retention bracket, I just mount my HS straight through to the backplate. :)
Well the XP-120 is alittle different than that isn't it?

eva2000
11-15-2004, 03:45 AM
Your 3700+ is a nice chip. What's the cooling and room temperature?
3DMark01 really love high FSB with tight memory timing!
cooling in sig, in compare url http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245604 ;)

room temp 28-30C, water temp 28-31C :)

krampak
11-15-2004, 04:13 AM
I've a friend who has bought a DFI UT250 and its priming at 370Mhz 100% stable with any mods :slobber: I couldn't pass from 310Mhz with my ex dfi...

ugp
11-15-2004, 04:19 AM
It seems some are having all the fun with it and others are just stock at very small overclocks and then others are just having every problem in the world. It is very sad indeed. Not that DFI fault though I know. Just all the other hardware it seems to be.

krampak
11-15-2004, 07:58 AM
OMG, now it's priming at 400HTT!!! :slobber:

Ubermann
11-15-2004, 08:26 AM
I have all problems in the world also.
So your not alone =)
Will play with HTT a while, has nothing to do =)

mackanz
11-15-2004, 09:17 AM
I can't use more than 320 HTT at any divider. Just refuses to boot pass "Detecting array". Exactly the same with 272+ at 1:1. If clockgen didn't exist, i would have thrown this board aways a long time ago.

Mrki
11-15-2004, 10:52 AM
im testing my new cpu :D

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x290_OCZ_2.5_3_3_3_8_smartguardian.jpg

Zeus
11-15-2004, 11:09 AM
im testing my new cpu :D

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x290_OCZ_2.5_3_3_3_8_smartguardian.jpg

Ouch! What cooling?

Mrki
11-15-2004, 11:17 AM
vapo ls ...

Mrki
11-15-2004, 11:39 AM
i think i must have more than 30k with 2.9GHz or not?

thats a x800xtpe

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x290_OCZ_2.5_3_3_3_8_3dmark01_29951.jpg

spaceman
11-15-2004, 01:49 PM
i think i must have more than 30k with 2.9GHz or not?

thats a x800xtpe

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x290_OCZ_2.5_3_3_3_8_3dmark01_29951.jpg
Heck yeah, you should be scoring a LOT higher. Do you have your drivers tweaked up for gaming? That's the most common reason for bad scores, at least for me. ;)

ugp
11-15-2004, 02:00 PM
Grab you some DNA-Drivers...I got my XP-120 today and I am going to wait to mount it until I get my 3400+ DTR. God I can't wait until I can do some more testing with it.

jayl
11-15-2004, 02:16 PM
Why don´t you guys give me some real STABLE results with your "high" OC´s... ;) ... ;) ... :D

http://koti.welho.com/jlinna2/DFI%20Lanparty%20UT/Prime/prime%2010h%20-%2011x246MHz=2.706GHz@1.81V_mod.JPG
though I don´t know if this is...

ugp
11-15-2004, 02:40 PM
Should 2.5GHz be achievable on air? Perhaps with a XP-120?

reject
11-15-2004, 05:23 PM
easily. with a 3400 2.6 is more like it
ugp if you can oc well then its my cpu.

ugp
11-15-2004, 06:54 PM
easily. with a 3400 2.6 is more like it
ugp if you can oc well then its my cpu.
Well in any case I am going to get the highest possible stable 24/6 OverClock I can. With it getting cold now and my window opened it makes it alittle easier :D

ahfung
11-15-2004, 09:46 PM
Why don´t you guys give me some real STABLE results with your "high" OC´s... ;) ... ;) ... :D

http://koti.welho.com/jlinna2/DFI%20Lanparty%20UT/Prime/prime%2010h%20-%2011x246MHz=2.706GHz@1.81V_mod.JPG
though I don´t know if this is...

Here we go, ;)

http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachments/forumid_13/dPYa_prime95_pass2.gif

Btw, i saw u ran "Blend" torture test, which IMHO isn't stressful for the CPU enough. Try "in-place large fft" for real challenge.

reject
11-15-2004, 10:27 PM
no small ffts stresses the fpu more

ahfung
11-16-2004, 12:24 AM
no small ffts stresses the fpu more

There's a good article about prime95 in ocforums

To sum up, large in-place fft is the best coz it'd stress L2 better than small fft. With small fft the L2 might not be fully utilized. Same go for Blend test with ultra big fft, which is going to stress memory more than L2.

Mrki
11-16-2004, 11:30 AM
Heck yeah, you should be scoring a LOT higher. Do you have your drivers tweaked up for gaming? That's the most common reason for bad scores, at least for me. ;)

what you mean with "drivers tweaked up" ?

some settings?

Mrki
11-16-2004, 02:25 PM
i cant understand why i have only 31sek in pi :(

with 3060MHZ i must have 29 or so ...

have somebody an idea?

/edît
this is 1T

http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/12x255_OCZ_2.5_3_3_3_7_pi_31sek.jpg

reject
11-16-2004, 04:02 PM
try tweaking the advanced dram timings

spaceman
11-16-2004, 04:50 PM
what you mean with "drivers tweaked up" ?

some settings?
Meaning, do ya have AA or AF on? Or anything in your vid cards control panel, that you'd change for gaming, and forgot to change back for benching. Like reject said, tweaking up your RAM's timings and speed will do wonders. I'd drop the multiplier, and go for a higher HTT. :)

reject
11-16-2004, 05:38 PM
also try running ram at highest 2-2-2 speed. superpi likes lower latency than high speed.

ugp
11-17-2004, 04:08 AM
So far I have tested my Rev 2 to do 220 @ 2-2-2 but I believe it will do alittle more than that with a good memory controller. That was also with 2 sticks in as well.

reject
11-17-2004, 04:24 AM
nice i would stick with that rather than highest 2.5-3-3 speed you are lucky look at my ram hahahah
2-2-2 owns
what about 2.5-2-2? thats even better if you can get higher

Ubermann
11-17-2004, 05:12 AM
Reject what happens if you change cas 3 to 2.5 and dont touch any other setting ?
And cas can never be higher then the other 2 settings i think, will not boot.
Got a new board today, will be fun again.

Mrki
11-17-2004, 06:03 AM
Meaning, do ya have AA or AF on? Or anything in your vid cards control panel, that you'd change for gaming, and forgot to change back for benching. Like reject said, tweaking up your RAM's timings and speed will do wonders. I'd drop the multiplier, and go for a higher HTT. :)


aa and af are off ...

ahfung
11-17-2004, 06:54 AM
aa and af are off ...

I think it's about right. For your reference my 3200+ 1MB oc to 2.7GHz mem at 300MHz 2.5-3-3 is 31s too.

Mrki
11-17-2004, 07:17 AM
I think it's about right. For your reference my 3200+ 1MB oc to 2.7GHz mem at 300MHz 2.5-3-3 is 31s too.


yes 1mb cache give you about 200mhz more and 1000points more in 3dmark01 in the comparison for the NC!

but i have 3ghz and 30k is to small :( ... and only 31sek in pi :(

in 3dmark03 i have 12800 with a x800 xt pe 520/560 16pipes! i must have so 13800 or so!

hmm am i reinstall my OS?

reject
11-17-2004, 07:43 PM
ubermann
i got a new cpu overclock and now my ram speed is lower so im gonna experiment a bit with timings.
using memtest a while ago i found cas 2.5 gives me 25mb/s more but trp to 3 gives me about 70mb/s
it doesnt matter about cas being higher, what about ocz EB at 3-2-2?
did you have to rma your board?

Ubermann
11-17-2004, 10:30 PM
New board alot different then old one.
Cant run same speed.
Dimm2 slot is the only one able to do any decent overclock.
Trouble with multipliers...and so on.
But temps and volts are correct now, go figure =)
Wonder about leaving and buy some other brand.

reject
11-17-2004, 10:44 PM
no please dont! tell dfi they care if your not satisfied.
maybe u need to flash bios
oh 9x multi is a problem for everyone
i tried rp at 3 ran test 5 20 times. boosted my bandwidth to 1674 mb/s from 1589 :D
prime not stable but if i crash ill jsut up a voltage. i dont like prime its too picky and takes too loong

reject
11-17-2004, 10:47 PM
no please dont! tell dfi they care if your not satisfied.
maybe u need to flash bios
oh 9x multi is a problem for everyone
i tried rp at 3 ran test 5 20 times. boosted my bandwidth to 1674 mb/s from 1589 :D
prime not stable but if i crash ill just up a voltage. i dont like prime its too picky and takes too loong
good luck with ya board

Ubermann
11-17-2004, 11:59 PM
Installed xp with 330FSB =)

STEvil
11-18-2004, 02:48 AM
how's the unbuffered bench?

I'm pushing 2046/2047 unbuffered @ 9x250 1.5-2-2-0 lol ;)

Zeus
11-18-2004, 03:07 AM
Installed xp with 330FSB =)

Wow Uber, that's just sick man!! :slobber: :slobber:

Looks like your new board is ok after all?

I get my new CPU tommorrow, 3400+ NewCastle week 0434, let's pray i can finally show some nice screenies. ;)

Ubermann
11-18-2004, 03:21 AM
Lost partitions twice and bios reseted itself a couple of times..gave up.
It was with 3-5-4-10 timings =)

Godmyster
11-18-2004, 05:46 AM
Hi, anybody use the DFI onboard sound? i cant get the 5.1 to give, i can only get 3 speakers and the Subwoofer or 4 speekers without the center speeker and the Subwoofer.. antbody have any ideia or of some program that can make this work? Thanks :)

ugp
11-18-2004, 05:55 AM
Yeah get rid of it and use a Audigy 2 ZS

reject
11-18-2004, 06:10 AM
its good. good quality but lags cpu time
i use a sb live 5.1
my unbuffered at 280 is like 2250/2350 and thats with loose timings... eva2000 had i think 2500/2600 with 2-2-2 and about 255 HT, your timings are bad try 2-2-2-10 and it might go up

RocKer
11-18-2004, 06:14 AM
Hi, anybody use the DFI onboard sound? i cant get the 5.1 to give, i can only get 3 speakers and the Subwoofer or 4 speekers without the center speeker and the Subwoofer.. antbody have any ideia or of some program that can make this work? Thanks :)
I use it,don't have any prob's with it,works and sound real good,i use also a Logitech Z-640 speakerssystem(5.1),use the prog that comes with it Xear3D and works great,nice soundeffects :cool: you,can/and i'did,make with it;).

Godmyster
11-18-2004, 06:29 AM
Dont have that Xear3D Program in the Lanparty CD =| any idea where i can get this?

Ubermann
11-18-2004, 09:27 AM
its good. good quality but lags cpu time
i use a sb live 5.1
my unbuffered at 280 is like 2250/2350 and thats with loose timings... eva2000 had i think 2500/2600 with 2-2-2 and about 255 HT, your timings are bad try 2-2-2-10 and it might go up

Unbuffered in sandra ?

STEvil
11-18-2004, 03:03 PM
2-2-2-0 gave me 2034. I havent touched anything othert han cas, trcd, trp and tras.

reject
11-18-2004, 04:50 PM
well something is wrong. what is your cpu speed? i know that affects memtest bandwidth a lot, evas cpu was about 2.6ghz
try tweaking some of the low level settings, like Tref, set that to 4708, 4196 or 3120. i think the latter is good for bh-5 according to jess1313
set the 2 second last timings to 4x 4x that works best for me, but you might also try 7x 16x

Xear 3d sucks i had it on my epox nf2 its a crappy program.
get a sb live there about the same as onboard, but dont use cpu up and also have eax

STEvil
11-18-2004, 05:13 PM
9x250. 2800+ clawhammer with 512k L2 ;)

Given the CPU speed its not bad i'd think? Good enough for 38s super-pi anyways. Beats 2x512 of CH-5 by 2 seconds @ 248 1.5-2-2-10

ugp
11-18-2004, 05:42 PM
Just got my 3400+ DTR and it is this..

AMA3400BEX5AR
CAABC 0411MPM

Time to slap it in and see what it can do... :D Wish me luck:D

conrad.maranan
11-18-2004, 05:47 PM
Just got my 3400+ DTR and it is this..

AMA3400BEX5AR
CAABC 0411MPM

Time to slap it in and see what it can do... :D Wish me luck:D
That's a very early week you have there (early March 2004). I hope you can pull something sweet out of it. Let us know how it goes.
:toast:

chickenrun
11-18-2004, 05:59 PM
Got my new 0433 3400NC and tested a bit with 1 module of OZC PC4200...

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/3157/17012700_300x9_ram183_divider.JPG

Not too bad, but with 9x300 and 9/10 divider for ram... all air cooled.. btw does 2600 on stock voltage

For 2750 I need 1.75vcore :mad: , pi suddenly decreases to 34 sec :confused: and temps go thru the roof with 52c under load :(
I.E.: Good chip, but need Vapo for new highs ;)

ugp
11-18-2004, 06:36 PM
Alright first results after not even changing anything from my old setup but to a 10 multi.. so I am at 2.5:d at v1.6 on the core... with my XP-120 as well:-d

ugp
11-18-2004, 07:03 PM
I got 7582 on 3DMark03 so far...I have alot of tweaking to do...although it could be my driver as well.

spaceman
11-19-2004, 02:14 AM
Right on ugp! :cool: What, no pics of the lapped 120? :D

ugp
11-19-2004, 04:17 AM
Right on ugp! :cool: What, no pics of the lapped 120? :D
I didn't even get to lap it yet, the heatsink is stock. I will eventually lap it down.

reject
11-19-2004, 05:44 AM
yeh stevil that ram id awesome in superpi, i get 38s and 37s at 270x9
i was playing hl1 for about 3-4 hours. then it crashed, so i upped voltage from 1.75 to 1.76 and that should do it. i was also folding at the time.
heat plays a big part in instability for me. as long as i have my cpu fan on full and rear fans on about 1/3 speed, its ok.
im gonna invest in some mosfet cooling that will do good for my cpu and i might get phase, although im thinking of getting a dothan and dfi :P

Dani
11-19-2004, 07:36 AM
Here is my current records on SP1M and 8M on WinXP Pro 32bit:
DFI LP 250GB, 3200+ 130nm (CBAEC 0428RPMW)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nForce3%20250GB/SP1M%2031s%20XP%2032bit.gif

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nForce3%20250GB/SP8M%205m39s%20XP%2032bit.gif

ugp
11-19-2004, 12:49 PM
Most testing done alittle...MemTest86 stable atleast...

Highest the CPU Temp reached 52C

Me thinks I can go further!:D

ugp
11-19-2004, 01:04 PM
Here is my AquaMark3 score..

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=2028695414

55,802...Time to tweak alittle more. I went back to 250x10.0 because I don't believe 260x10.0 was 100% stable. Have more tweaking to do:-d

Zeus
11-19-2004, 03:37 PM
My new CPU cleared all my troubles...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19676&stc=1

Only at default voltage and 2,9V at the RAM.
Heading to bed right now, but will be back tommorrow with more results. :)

Ubermann
11-19-2004, 11:42 PM
You can sleep well now Zeus =)
Finally some fun!

ugp
11-20-2004, 02:57 AM
New CPU cleared all my troubles so far as well:D

spaceman
11-20-2004, 11:31 AM
Nice, Zeus! :toast: Hey guys, don't forget to sink up ALL your MOSFETs. I've been havin some weird probs OCin, & decided to pull the mobo last night & start over. Seems I missed a couple MOSFETs before. :rolleyes: There's one near the edge of the board by the DIMMs, and another near the ATX header. After sinking them, all my temps went WAY down. I'm runnin' my 3200+ now @ 2400 MHz.(10x240) @ 1.6vcore, and temps are 29c, 22c, 22c idle. :D

ugp
11-20-2004, 01:15 PM
I don't really have any heat issues...there is hardly any heat at all in my case now:D

Ubermann
11-20-2004, 01:58 PM
I took away the ihs from mine, and some as5 on that after lapped the front plate.
Temp stopped going up and down like crazy.
Can give it 2.0 volt without crash, but its kinda crazy =)

reject
11-20-2004, 03:53 PM
listen young man do you want your cpu to end up like that 9800pro? :D :P



Nice, Zeus! :toast: Hey guys, don't forget to sink up ALL your MOSFETs. I've been havin some weird probs OCin, & decided to pull the mobo last night & start over. Seems I missed a couple MOSFETs before. :rolleyes: There's one near the edge of the board by the DIMMs, and another near the ATX header. After sinking them, all my temps went WAY down. I'm runnin' my 3200+ now @ 2400 MHz.(10x240) @ 1.6vcore, and temps are 29c, 22c, 22c idle. :D

thast a good thing to hear. what sinks are u using? i can get 8 tweakmonsters for 20$

Ubermann
11-20-2004, 04:23 PM
Im not young, im just dont afraid of burning things =)

computersmsa
11-20-2004, 04:28 PM
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc/CPU/2700.png

:toast:

ugp
11-20-2004, 05:57 PM
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc/CPU/2700.png

:toast:
Not bad man...that is very nice indeed...

That is a 62w correct?

ugp
11-20-2004, 06:24 PM
Well this is what I think I am going to make my 24/7 Overclock. I am going to tweak this as much as I can. But here is without any tweaking at all so far.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19743
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19744&stc=1

If anyone sees anything that they think will imporve any of my scores please let me know...

Also...quick question to add...I am wondering about the CPU Temp reading...which do I go by... I am using the 11/15 BIOS.

The BIOS, Smartguardian, and SiSoft all report different Temps...which is accurate?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19748&stc=1

spaceman
11-20-2004, 06:57 PM
thast a good thing to hear. what sinks are u using? i can get 8 tweakmonsters for 20$
I'm just using some cheapie CoolerMaster copper RAMsinks. I got em on sale at coolerguys, $5 for an 8-pack. They're located here in Washington state, so shipping for you Aussies might be a little steep. ;) BTW, you better get more than 8, if you want to do them all. I probly used around 16 or 20. You'll see what I mean, when you start looking around. :)

ugp
11-20-2004, 08:01 PM
Here is a screen...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19747&stc=1

LoL...it says it is PC4000...it is PC3200 Rev 2 Plat:D

trans am
11-20-2004, 10:11 PM
Wow:)
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19752

ugp
11-20-2004, 10:13 PM
Wow:)
Hey man we can't read the scores...they are too fuzzy fromt he compression. I can see the SuperPi but not the SiSoft scores.

trans am
11-20-2004, 10:13 PM
OK, fixed it.

computersmsa
11-21-2004, 01:51 AM
UGP -> Yes it's 62W CG :)
Look my review if you want (French)
http://www.bel-hardware.be/a64moc.html
:)

reject
11-21-2004, 04:57 AM
I'm just using some cheapie CoolerMaster copper RAMsinks. I got em on sale at coolerguys, $5 for an 8-pack. They're located here in Washington state, so shipping for you Aussies might be a little steep. ;) BTW, you better get more than 8, if you want to do them all. I probly used around 16 or 20. You'll see what I mean, when you start looking around. :)
do the ones with tape pre applied work well?

ugp
11-21-2004, 06:01 AM
What actually states the temps correctly? Does the BIOS?

spaceman
11-21-2004, 06:39 AM
do the ones with tape pre applied work well?
They work pretty good, yeah. Ideally tho, ya should lap the bottom, & use thermal adhesive. Maybe one day I'll do that. :) ugp, I go by the BIOS, but who knows how accurate any temp readings really are, lol. Even temp probes could be a little off.

ugp
11-21-2004, 06:48 AM
@spaceman: Alright thanks man. Finally someone answered me lol

computersmsa
11-21-2004, 07:41 AM
What actually states the temps correctly? Does the BIOS?

It's good t° :)
http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.com/Bh/viewtopic.php?t=62
Look this :)

ugp
11-21-2004, 07:46 AM
I can't read any of the text...what the hell does any of it say on that forum?

trans am
11-21-2004, 07:56 AM
It's good t° :)
http://forum.bel-hardware.citywebz.com/Bh/viewtopic.php?t=62
Look this :)

I'm curious to know what your temps say in the bios. Mine is a 62w also and temps read 40c under heavy load. Is yours anything like this? I'm wondering how accurate that is, since I think all motherboards have issues reporting accurate temps on mobiles and dtr's. It always seens to read about 5c higher or so than actual. Nice o/c man! I've never seen a 3400+ 62w in action until yours.

computersmsa
11-21-2004, 08:54 AM
Trans am -> The same than SpeedFan ;)
Water of WC @ 13 °C ...

CPU fully 2.7 Ghz -> 28 °C :)

It's normal, water is not @ 30 °C as a normal WC ... :banana:

Thanks man :toast:

computersmsa
11-21-2004, 08:56 AM
I can't read any of the text...what the hell does any of it say on that forum?

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0001_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0001.jpg)

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0002_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0002.jpg)

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0003_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0003.jpg)

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0004_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0004.jpg)

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0005_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0005.jpg)

http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0006_s.jpg (http://home.scarlet.be/~pascpiet/DV/PCWC/IMG_0006.jpg)

Click

trans am
11-21-2004, 02:25 PM
What? This is fvcking nuts man! I've never seen this one before! lol

reject
11-21-2004, 03:40 PM
so your wc setup is in the roof?

trans am
11-21-2004, 03:49 PM
No, he has the PC on the 1st floor, the tubes go through the floor into the basement and the rad is submerged in a well in the ground. it must be really cold down there. This should get an award for most innovative w/c setup. He's very resourceful. :)

reject
11-21-2004, 03:59 PM
ahh didnt see second pic
spaceman
im gonna get these 16 for 32$ http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=139&code=013

Nanobot
11-21-2004, 04:00 PM
OMG that's just *Out there*:wierd:
EDIT: *didnt see the submerged rad*
Imagine the buildup of deposits computersmsa gets on his rad :eek:

STEvil
11-21-2004, 04:03 PM
nanobot - probably none, its a sealed system and the well only cools the rad.

Think of it as a water cooled water cooling setup.. lol ;)

ugp
11-21-2004, 06:16 PM
That is very insane! I want it! lol

ugp
11-21-2004, 07:32 PM
Thought I would post a few pictures of how I mounted my Thermalright XP-120 with 2 120mm Fans. And also you can see the ATI Silencer 3 on my ASUS A9800XT:d

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19771&stc=1
That is just another 120mm wedged into the case between the PSU rail and motherboard tray.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19772&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19773&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19774&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19775&stc=1

ugp
11-21-2004, 07:33 PM
And here is one more picture with the lights off...

Had to make it two posts since of the 5 pic limit at a time.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19776&stc=1

Nanobot
11-21-2004, 09:03 PM
Zip ties,I love it ! Cuz it's soo ghetto :up:

ugp
11-22-2004, 03:17 AM
Zip ties,I love it ! Cuz it's soo ghetto :up:
It was the only way I could mount the 120mm to the XP-120 and since the ZipTies that I have about '300' of are UV Reactive it fits:D

reject
11-22-2004, 05:07 AM
isnt it designed for 120mm meaning it would come with clips?

Ubermann
11-22-2004, 05:53 AM
It comes with clips.

reject
11-22-2004, 06:13 AM
so whats ugp thinking?

Ubermann
11-22-2004, 06:33 AM
Maybe he didnt read the manual =)

Mag Master 21
11-22-2004, 09:05 AM
I am having problems with my slk948U.. at 110% I'm loading at 63C which doesn't seem right.. Would getting an XP120 help my temps?

Does it have enough room to fit without any mods? What load temps do you get at 110% and above?

Thanks.

Ubermann
11-22-2004, 09:38 AM
I have tried mine with 2.0 volts and superpi.
It didnt crash (and it didnt burn either)
Try another bios.

Zeus
11-22-2004, 09:50 AM
I have tried mine with 2.0 volts and superpi.
It didnt crash (and it didnt burn either)
Try another bios.

LOL Uber, you really are a high voltage man, aren't you? :D

Ubermann
11-22-2004, 10:02 AM
Hehe i just want things to burn so i have to go crying to my girlfriend that my computer dont work any more, so i have no life and must buy new parts..NOW!
I did manage to burn the ATI..but that was when i was drunk.
To bad GF wont let me buy new one =(
So here i am playing halflife 2 with a geforce 2..what a waste of good time.
Btw..the new nvidia 64bits drivers works with xp also (NF3)

computersmsa
11-22-2004, 11:42 AM
Nanabot -> The water is clean :)
Now, I have pickup the rad.

Now, I have submerge a tubing of 3m :)

trans am
11-22-2004, 12:17 PM
Nanabot -> The water is clean :)
Now, I have pickup the rad.

Now, I have submerge a tubing of 3m :)

I love the w/c setup, but why not just just submerge the rad in a bucket of icewater and keep everything together? ????

computersmsa
11-22-2004, 12:36 PM
Sorry, I don't unterstand :)

So, it's closed WC ... the water in WC isn't in contact with water of a ... in english ?

trans am
11-22-2004, 12:43 PM
I know it's closed, but why not just do the same thing you're doing, except have the bucket of ice water next to your computer and just keep the rad in there when you are benching? This way you don't need to use 5 meters of tubing and lose flow rate. Is that little pump all you have doing this? Unless you run this 24/7 with the cold water? Nevermind me, just do what you were doing LOL

computersmsa
11-22-2004, 12:59 PM
24/7 since one mouth .... ilde 17-19 °C
Farcry -> 24-25°C ...

ugp
11-22-2004, 01:54 PM
The fan I have is not able to use the clips...yes I read the manual and no I really didn't need to. It is hard to explain what I mean...it needs clips that will clip on the top of this particular fan because it can't on the lower end of it...

Nanobot
11-22-2004, 01:57 PM
Sorry, I don't unterstand :)

So, it's closed WC ... the water in WC isn't in contact with water of a ... in english ?



Salut computersmsa !

Ce que je voulait dire:T'on radiateur n'a pas de depot de calcaire cause par l'eau(dure) du puit?

Je vois des depot de calcaire sur les paroies de ciment,donc c'est sur que eventuellement tu vas avoir des depot,non ?

Desole pour l'ortographe mec,j'ai qu'un clavier unilingue anglais.:rolleyes:

*Sorry for the french guys but it's got to be said so he can understand*

trans am
11-22-2004, 02:08 PM
Salut computersmsa !

Ce que je voulait dire:T'on radiateur n'a pas de depot de calcaire cause par l'eau(dure) du puit?

Je vois des depot de calcaire sur les paroies de ciment,donc c'est sur que eventuellement tu vas avoir des depot,non ?

Desole pour l'ortographe mec,j'ai qu'un clavier unilingue anglais.:rolleyes:

*Sorry for the french guys but it's got to be said so he can understand*

are you asking if he's getting limestone deposits on his rad?

Nanobot
11-22-2004, 02:23 PM
Sorry my bad :shakes:
I should've explained it for the rest of the forum members.

Yes that's what i'm asking him.

reject
11-22-2004, 03:24 PM
go here for translation
http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/tr


Hehe i just want things to burn so i have to go crying to my girlfriend that my computer dont work any more, so i have no life and must buy new parts..NOW!
I did manage to burn the ATI..but that was when i was drunk.
To bad GF wont let me buy new one =(
So here i am playing halflife 2 with a geforce 2..what a waste of good time.
Btw..the new nvidia 64bits drivers works with xp also (NF3)
so your not the pantswearer then? :lol: :D

computersmsa
11-23-2004, 09:00 AM
Nanabot ->

Salut,

C'est possible que le radiateur soit recouvert de calcaire dans 1 an ... mais ce n'est pas un drame ... l'eau est vraiment très peu calcaire :)
Par contre, j'ai remplacé le radiateur par un tuyau de cuivre de 3m de long plier en U ...
Meilleur débit ... l'eau plus froide dans le fond du puits... j'ai gagné 2°C.

++ :toast:

spaceman
11-23-2004, 08:16 PM
Computersmsa, that's pretty slick. :toast: Probly stays nice & cool in the summer, too. :cool:

spaceman
11-23-2004, 08:22 PM
ahh didnt see second pic
spaceman
im gonna get these 16 for 32$ http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=139&code=013
Urm, I'm not sure those are gonna work. :confused: Some of the MOSFETs sit in a cramped little space, between caps, and you actually need to cut a normal RAMsink in half to make it fit. And some are right near the AGP tab. Unless you already ordered, look for some shorter ones, more low-profile. :)

reject
11-23-2004, 08:35 PM
what about iceberq ones? otherwise ill get some microcools from frozencpu

ugp
11-24-2004, 08:22 PM
When exactly do you need to add more cooling to the MOSFETs? What makes them get hotter and to the point of needing to be cooled alittle bit more.

I assume cooling them alittle better can improve overclocking correct?

I am sorry I don't know much about these at all...I am still learning alot here...

trans am
11-24-2004, 08:45 PM
high vdimm and vcore. i never cooled mosfets in the past, but maybe it's time to, lol

ugp
11-25-2004, 05:55 AM
I always run my vDIMM at v2.90 and my CPU is only at v1.60 I don't think it is needed for me.

reject
11-25-2004, 06:17 AM
is florida as hot as perth? do you gtet 43c summer days? u might still benefit

ugp
11-25-2004, 03:59 PM
Right now it is starting to get really cold and that means the window is staying open and I am going to freeze this out. I don't care if it is my bedroom or not...I love it when it is cold!

reject
11-25-2004, 06:40 PM
ahaha i do too but i hate going in the ocean when its 16c water temp! sooo cold

ugp
11-26-2004, 01:17 AM
Yeah that I would hate. Because it is so cold right now...well it isn't that cold yet but anyways....my GPU is idling at 38C and the memory on my VGA is at 36C.

My CPU is at 27C right now:d I love it! I wish I didn't have to work 06:00am to 10:00pm today so I could stay here and overclock alittle higher:D

krampak
11-26-2004, 03:06 PM
This is a screenshot of my friend, i know, it is a really low multiplier but it stills insane:

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/8549/410SPI2M.jpg

DFI Ut250 stock, no mods.

STEvil
11-26-2004, 03:10 PM
clawhammers can get 400+ no problem.

krampak
11-26-2004, 03:20 PM
Isn't the FX-55 a clawhamer? :D

reject
11-26-2004, 06:59 PM
no its an opteron/sledgehammer i think

dippyskoodlez
11-27-2004, 06:46 AM
no its an opteron/sledgehammer i think

clawhammer. sledgehammer is the socket 940, claw is 130nm socket 754/939 1mb cache, new castle is 512k cache, winchester is 90nm 512kb cache.


AFAIK. :toast:

sr4470
12-04-2004, 09:25 PM
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/

Thats where you can find details on all athlon cpus

Zeus
12-05-2004, 01:00 AM
This is a screenshot of my friend, i know, it is a really low multiplier but it stills insane:

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/8549/410SPI2M.jpg

DFI Ut250 stock, no mods.

Nice screenie but going through this thread from page 1 you'll it's no big deal.
You'll see plenty more 400+HTT screens.

However 400+HTT is fun. :)

ugp
12-05-2004, 12:05 PM
High HTTs only help for High FSB on memory...

reject
12-05-2004, 07:07 PM
which loses to low latency

STEvil
12-05-2004, 07:38 PM
except he's talking HTT, not FSB.

ugp
12-05-2004, 07:57 PM
Now if someone could hit 400x10.0 that would be awesome!!! I would sh*t my pants if I saw it and the SuperPi score on that...

reject
12-05-2004, 08:31 PM
im going to try 300x10. not trying superpi just 3dmarks 03 and 01, maybe 05 but need video clocks

ugp
12-07-2004, 05:01 PM
How do you know if your heatsink is mounted properly on the CPU? I am not sure if it is making contact all the way or not...it doesn't seem to be. Because of my temps.

Rabbi_NZ
12-07-2004, 05:04 PM
Feel the base of your sink... if it's cool and your CPU temp is high it may mean poor contact.
Also, I have heard with some sinks (Eg XP-120) if it is making poor contact you can sometimes push down on it to lower temps... that would give you a good idea too.

ugp
12-07-2004, 07:01 PM
Alright thanks man! I will give it a try...

I also see you have a mobile and the XP-120...did you have to mod yours in anyway for it to make good contact?

Zeus
12-07-2004, 09:55 PM
Now if someone could hit 400x10.0 that would be awesome!!! I would sh*t my pants if I saw it and the SuperPi score on that...

To be more realistic, 12x300 with mem 1:1 would be da bomb!
I've never seen a socket 754 CPU doing over 3.3GHz so even 11x300 will be elusive to most of us.

Come to think of what 12x300 would do... :slobber:

Now let's not turn this thread into a GF4 next gen hardware performance guess thread. :D

Rabbi_NZ
12-08-2004, 10:18 AM
Alright thanks man! I will give it a try...

I also see you have a mobile and the XP-120...did you have to mod yours in anyway for it to make good contact?
Yeh I sanded the base of the back plate (i guess that's what you call it)... I mean the thing the heatsink sits on.
I think I almost went too far because putting the XP120 on was quite difficult and nerve racking... but the contact now is great... On full load my CPU sits at 39c... idle is usually 24c-26c :)

ugp
12-09-2004, 07:08 AM
Yeh I sanded the base of the back plate (i guess that's what you call it)... I mean the thing the heatsink sits on.
I think I almost went too far because putting the XP120 on was quite difficult and nerve racking... but the contact now is great... On full load my CPU sits at 39c... idle is usually 24c-26c :)
What is your CPU clocked at? And you have a DTR right? 82-Watt? or the 62-Watt?

About how much do you think you took off of it?

Rabbi_NZ
12-09-2004, 10:29 AM
What is your CPU clocked at? And you have a DTR right? 82-Watt? or the 62-Watt?

About how much do you think you took off of it?
I'm still tuning her but last night I ran "Prime95 128k-4096k 10hours"/SuperPI 32MB/Sandra/MemTest and all were stable at 10x260 2-2-2-10-1T with 1.75vcore/3.3vdimm

Max temp during the testing was 41c but sat between 38c-40c most of the time.

I sanded it about half way down... but the way you know not to go too far is, keep trying to sit it flat on your board after every millimeter or so that you sand off (it will sand down very quickly). If you go too far, the two standoffs that come through the back of the board will be too long to fit in the two holes of the "backplate" so it will rock side-to-side... YOU DONT WANT THAT.

So sand down about a mm at a time, then check... if you go too low the "backplate" may also sit on some other small components around the socket... so jus keep an eye out for everything like that and you will be fine :)

Godmyster
12-09-2004, 11:41 AM
Anybody have this board with 5.1 speakers and use the onboard sound?

Rabbi_NZ
12-09-2004, 11:56 AM
Anybody have this board with 5.1 speakers and use the onboard sound?
Yes, works fine for me so far.

ugp
12-09-2004, 07:07 PM
Well just got done sanding it down...helped alittle but didn't seem to do much really. I am not sure. System is stable at these temps so I guess it is fine. What I really need to do it lap down the Heatsink. Before sanding the backplate down I threw in my old 3200+ and at 250x8.0 it sat at 30C...the mobile sat at 43C at the same clock. Something to me doesn't seem right....

ToastedToad
12-09-2004, 08:46 PM
Are you taking these readings from SmartGaurdian? or a probe?

ugp
12-10-2004, 08:48 AM
Are you taking these readings from SmartGaurdian? or a probe?
I am going by BIOS...but nonetheless I tried my other CPU and going by BIOS readings they shouldn't differ that much even if the BIOS is off....unless it isn't reading the DTR right...is that possible? It doesn't make since to me at all. But a DTR should run cooler at the same clock speeds right? I am very confused on this.

Rabbi_NZ
12-10-2004, 03:25 PM
Same clocks should giv "similar" temps I would think... but remember the readings are from temp readings INSIDE the die... so it is possible they are being READ/MEASURED wrongly with the Mobile... or with the older chip for that matter. Unless you have a probe I wouldnt worry too much... as long as you see no stability issues that is

reject
12-10-2004, 05:24 PM
if your case is filling up with really hot air you know somethings wrong if its all cool then it good

ugp
12-10-2004, 09:52 PM
Well it differs at different times...I am unsure...and because I am unsure of the temps I don't want to take it much further. What are safe temps anyway? But I also do not have a probe I can use to check the temps.

STEvil
12-10-2004, 10:28 PM
put your hand on the heatsink.

If it is too hot to hold it there its running too hot.

ugp
12-10-2004, 10:31 PM
No it isn't that hot. I think it is actually fine. I think something just isn't reading right. It seems to be very cool overall in there now. I am even running the side case window back on it and it is working pretty good now. I am going to try to overclock it to atleast 260x10.0 and 1:1 with the same settings in my sig except alittle more voltage on the core.

Av3ng3r
12-13-2004, 12:40 PM
i just downloaded the last ut nf3 250 beta bios and I made bootable disk with the format tool of windows. I treid to flash the bios but when i run:

awdflash bios.bin

it starts up a program which is going to backup my current bios and at that point the flash utility won't go any further

What should i do ?

:stick:

Rabbi_NZ
12-13-2004, 12:45 PM
flash from windows with WinFlash

p4z1f1st
12-13-2004, 12:46 PM
so, are there any new information about the new winner of DFI? :D

Rabbi_NZ
12-13-2004, 02:37 PM
Can someone tell me where to measure VDimm on this board please?

I have a feeling my 3.4v setting is giving around 3.32v under memtest load...

STEvil
12-13-2004, 02:44 PM
backside of the large mosfet in top right corner of board (above dimm slots).

Rabbi_NZ
12-13-2004, 03:52 PM
Cheers dude, can you tell me what pin?

STEvil
12-13-2004, 04:44 PM
The backside.

There is no pin, its the back... just the base of metal you can see.

Rabbi_NZ
12-13-2004, 04:56 PM
The backside.

There is no pin, its the back... just the base of metal you can see.
Cool, I know what you mean. I'm actually thankful it is that part... less chance of my clumsy hands shorting two pins together.

Thanks STEvil.

Av3ng3r
12-14-2004, 08:57 AM
So , flashed my bios succesfully today and i can boot 2650 now in windows , with the stock i couldn't so abit improvement has taken place. I hope they release a new bios soon with a lot of fixes, anyone knows if they are still working on a new bios ?

aCidbAbY
12-14-2004, 11:10 AM
can someone please link the bios update with memtest86 and 4.0vdimm for this board:help:

ToastedToad
12-14-2004, 11:18 AM
http://webpages.charter.net/jess1313/DFI%20754%20Beta%20Bios/Beta%20A15/JSJ-A15.ZIP :toast:

aCidbAbY
12-14-2004, 11:55 AM
ok i got it thx but this is showing that i cant use the memtest feature for some reason. it just reboots at any clock when it is set to on.

Godmyster
12-14-2004, 03:21 PM
Anybody have this board with a DVD-ROM Plextor?!?!?!! Urgente!!

NPinho
12-14-2004, 03:37 PM
Anybody have this board with a DVD-ROM Plextor?!?!?!! Urgente!!

my friend, i have DFI NF3 whith Plextor dvdrom (116A revision A3) ;)

ToastedToad
12-14-2004, 08:24 PM
ok i got it thx but this is showing that i cant use the memtest feature for some reason. it just reboots at any clock when it is set to on.


I had the same problem with it. At first it worked flawlessly, but all of a sudden it started doing the same as is it for you. I could run it but as soon as I changed ANYTHING in BIOS it would stop working. It's okay with me, since OCZ put out their version of memtest I have been using that.

reject
12-14-2004, 09:41 PM
you have to "load optimzed defaults" then reset your oc choices. then memtest works

ToastedToad
12-16-2004, 08:36 PM
Yeh but for me it only works until I change something. Can be as simple as boot order. Any changes make memtest not run, for me.

iddqd
12-17-2004, 01:12 AM
A common misconception - lower tras means better pwerformance. It's not actaully a latency as you would normally think of a latency in that way.

The best performing value varies from chipset to chipset; and from cas latency (tcl) to tcl. For example, on nForce3, at cas2, the best performing tras value is 10. At cas 1.5, it's 7(or 0 works in this case as well).

iddqd
12-17-2004, 01:21 AM
Woah... this is much, much worse than [H] in terms of the sheer number of people, that is.. in 30 seconds, 10 replies :eek:

Edit: doh, nvm stupid upside-down board arrangement. Curses.

STEvil
12-19-2004, 01:03 AM
Actually it really depends on what you are going for: latency, unbuffered bandwidth, buffered bandwidth, or 3dmark points.

Tras of 13 produces some interesting results btw ;) ;)

reject
12-19-2004, 05:01 AM
unduffered band and 3dmarks are the ones important

Dani
12-19-2004, 09:07 AM
Can someone tell me where to measure VDimm on this board please?

I have a feeling my 3.4v setting is giving around 3.32v under memtest load...
I measure VDIMM from Q38 mosfet's right leg (upper leg on this photo) Photo (http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nForce3%20250GB/DFI%20LP%20250GB%20VDIMM2.JPG)

STEvil: what do you mean, from mosfet with 5 legs right up from IDE FDD? Photo (http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nForce3%20250GB/DFI%20LP%20250GB%20VDIMM.JPG)

STEvil
12-19-2004, 12:27 PM
Yes, the mosfet with 5 legs is the correct one. Measure on the side closest to the brown capacitor (backside of the mosfet) since then you dont have to touch any of the legs.

If Q38 works too then I see no problem using it..

Rabbi_NZ
12-19-2004, 12:43 PM
will try Q38 tonight.... that other MOSFET seems to overvolt.... maybe my board jus overvolts, I dont know, but at 3.3v setting I sit at 3.35v.

dutchman.pt
12-19-2004, 01:02 PM
If someone could post a picture with all voltage measurement points and Vdmods for this board it would be great. :)

LSANTHRAX
01-04-2005, 03:23 PM
I just set up my dfi and was wondering how off the motherboards temp sensors usually are?

Perc
01-05-2005, 02:47 AM
has anyone noticed that on this mb you can set the LDT setting to auto and not have to touch it during ocing? i have my ldt set to auto and im at 290x10 1:1 :shrug: am i the only one or have any of you tired this??

thx perc,

TinTin
01-10-2005, 09:44 PM
has anyone noticed that on this mb you can set the LDT setting to auto and not have to touch it during ocing? i have my ldt set to auto and im at 290x10 1:1 :shrug: am i the only one or have any of you tired this??

thx perc,
I always set LDT ratio to AUTO during overclocking HTT!

andL64
01-12-2005, 01:07 AM
hi guys

got a big problem with the DFI board now the booster works fine also my kingston bh-5 2x256Mb but....

i got the new modded bios with 4.0V but if i set the booster to 3,9-4,0 which is actually 3,8Volt it wouldnt boot anymore and i ve to turn off/on psu.

i can do 280 2-3-2-5 but its very unstable 275 2-2-2-5 is all time well but on 280 the board makes me troubles i think...

also what ram would ya prefer if ur ocing on the dfi lanparty ut now?

i would like such sticks 2x512 2,5-3(4)-3(4)-5(-10) @ 300 1:1

tia

seEn andL

ugp
01-12-2005, 05:25 AM
If I remember correctly, the board will not boot anything more than v3.6....I can't remember for sure though.

Klisp
01-12-2005, 06:30 AM
Anyone knows if OCZ VX works good on this board ?

STEvil
01-12-2005, 06:35 AM
no, you just need to have your +3.3v rail high enough (0.2v above vdimm).

KLISP - I have had mine to 260mhz 2-2-2-10 on the board.

Zeus
01-12-2005, 06:47 AM
hi guys

got a big problem with the DFI board now the booster works fine also my kingston bh-5 2x256Mb but....

i got the new modded bios with 4.0V but if i set the booster to 3,9-4,0 which is actually 3,8Volt it wouldnt boot anymore and i ve to turn off/on psu.

i can do 280 2-3-2-5 but its very unstable 275 2-2-2-5 is all time well but on 280 the board makes me troubles i think...

also what ram would ya prefer if ur ocing on the dfi lanparty ut now?

i would like such sticks 2x512 2,5-3(4)-3(4)-5(-10) @ 300 1:1

tia

seEn andL

Oppainter said his wouldn't boot above 3.6Vdimm, he had to turn vdimm down below 3.6V boot up and then adjust Vdimm again for higher Vdimm.

ugp
01-13-2005, 07:06 AM
Yeah that is what I thought i remember hearing about it. Right on Zeus.

andL64
01-13-2005, 07:10 AM
in my case its also so.... but still got great results 280 1:1 @ 1,5-2-2-0 :D

sluggard
01-25-2005, 08:19 AM
HTT428MHz on NewCastle 3000+ DFI_754
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/fsb.png

overcrash86
01-25-2005, 10:12 PM
HTT428MHz on NewCastle 3000+ DFI_754
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/fsb.png

What is your memory stick ?
an the CPU stepp ?

it's incredible with a newcastle :slobber:

sluggard
01-25-2005, 11:35 PM
memory is async@100MHz in bios, meaning that my random value ram stick is @224MHz :p:

dunno the stepping right now, but the CPU is from 0447. still can tell you exact stepping soon...

sluggard
01-27-2005, 12:01 PM
Corsair BH5 3500 @1,5-2-2-4 1T 3.9v on the same mobo

291MHz, but unstable :cool:
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/BH5_291.png

sandra buffered
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/bh5_bench.png

superpi 1M
http://www.hot.ee/robotron/9x283.PNG

Zeus
01-27-2005, 12:16 PM
Nice result, very good RAM! :up:

sevenka
02-02-2005, 01:02 PM
EDITED:

Link Removed. No Spamming Allowed.

ahfung
02-03-2005, 02:28 AM
Just a headup while everyone's busy with their new NF4 toys, here's an update for this veteran mb:

DFI released the latest beta bios dated Jan 28 for UT Lanparty NF3, DRAM bank interleave finally made available in BIOS.

I tried myself, unbuffered memory bandwidth and memtest speed got a nice boost now. Now memtest+ with the new bios, I got higher MB/s at 265MHz than 300MHz previously with the old bios. No stability penality observed so far.

hkalex
02-05-2005, 03:53 AM
I always set LDT ratio to AUTO during overclocking HTT!
tin tin, would you try the HTT higher than 325 for us, we found the nF3 250Gb cant hit the HTT over 325...Thanks... :D

yotomeczek
02-05-2005, 01:09 PM
tin tin, would you try the HTT higher than 325 for us, we found the nF3 250Gb cant hit the HTT over 325...Thanks... :D

I hit 355
It depends on CPU - I had 3 and 1st did 335, 2nd 325, 3rd 355

http://members.lycos.co.uk/yotomecze/htt%20355.JPG

Zeus
02-06-2005, 12:48 AM
I hit 355
It depends on CPU

True.
I could boot and run Prime95 perfectly stable at 420 with my old ClawHammer, a pic is somewhere in this thread.

Now with my NewCastle, booting at 320 is a no go.

It's all about the CPU. ;)

TinTin
02-06-2005, 01:43 AM
tin tin, would you try the HTT higher than 325 for us, we found the nF3 250Gb cant hit the HTT over 325...Thanks... :D

Clawhammer always does it better~ :D

hkalex
02-06-2005, 02:03 AM
Clawhammer always does it better~ :D

ours cant hit over 325 htt, even i got the DTR :slobber:

TinTin
02-06-2005, 02:08 AM
ours cant hit over 325 htt, even i got the DTR :slobber:

431HTT, I remember I did a 435HTT before, but I lost the picture! :D
Did you apply suitable memory divider? HTT ratio?
There is almost no need to raise the chipset voltage too much, just +0.1V~

ugp
02-16-2005, 06:48 AM
I have a quick question...I can't seem to find my answer here in the thread...Which SATA ports are better to use on this motherboard? 1&2 or 3&4? Right now I am using 3&4...I thought I remember reading something about an issue with 1&2 along time ago...Thanks.

Flask28
02-16-2005, 09:10 AM
I used 3-4, and disabled 1-2. I'm with you, I remebered reading something about OC issues with 1-2 but I was just looking for it and couldn't find it quickly.

I had no setup problems at all using 3-4.

zippyc
02-18-2005, 04:57 AM
The issue with the SATA Ports 1 and 2 is that by using them you limit your FSB to 240 in a 1:1 ratio. You can go higher using SATA ports 3 and 4.

ugp
02-23-2005, 08:03 AM
The issue with the SATA Ports 1 and 2 is that by using them you limit your FSB to 240 in a 1:1 ratio. You can go higher using SATA ports 3 and 4.
Oh ok...well I guess I will keep using 3&4 then. But I thought there was an issue and I was right...

RacerX
02-23-2005, 01:08 PM
Just a headup while everyone's busy with their new NF4 toys, here's an update for this veteran mb:

DFI released the latest beta bios dated Jan 28 for UT Lanparty NF3, DRAM bank interleave finally made available in BIOS.

I tried myself, unbuffered memory bandwidth and memtest speed got a nice boost now. Now memtest+ with the new bios, I got higher MB/s at 265MHz than 300MHz previously with the old bios. No stability penality observed so far.

Please post a link or info for this bios. I visited dfi-street.com and nowhere to be found. I can't believe they enabled BI after all the complaining I used to do about not having it has a option in the bios. :toast:

Maracaia
02-23-2005, 09:33 PM
Has anyone tried using 3 sticks of RAM with this mobo? If anyone has, what kind of experiences do you have? I bought 1 BH-5 (256 MB) stick (Kingston Value RAM) yesterday to operate with my 2 x 256 KHX-3200. All sticks are single-sided and BH-5.

Testing is still going on, but I thought I should ask here what to expect.

1T setting seems to be impossible, but I thought I should get reasonable FSB for my RAM. Those KHX-sticks had no problem in 24/7 use @ 240 x 10 with 3,15 V. Now that 240 seems to be unreachable, even with 2T-setting.

Any help and advise is appreciated, thanks :)

aCidbAbY
02-23-2005, 09:43 PM
Please post a link or info for this bios. I visited dfi-street.com and nowhere to be found. I can't believe they enabled BI after all the complaining I used to do about not having it has a option in the bios. :toast:
W3rD :toast: http://s6.invisionfree.com/underclock/index.php?showtopic=407

ugp
02-25-2005, 07:36 PM
There are alot more BIOS versions then that one out there...

loonym
03-05-2005, 02:19 PM
anyone tried .09 sempron on this board yet?

Moony349
03-07-2005, 07:53 PM
I haven't heard yet

Supershanks
03-08-2005, 06:15 AM
Just speccing out DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR build am unsure which is best out of these :-
Concerns :-
Thermalright XP-120 Pipes will they block DDR4 Slot or if orientated other way interfere with any capacitators.
(I notice that MSI Neo2 & 4s can't use this cooler.)

Swiftech MCX6400-V - Weight 750gm (Ex Fan) puts it way over the AMD recomendation of about 460gm (Not good for LanParties :D)

3rd option may be to bottle out & go for the Swiftech MCX64

Would appreciate feedback from anybody using either of these.

Performance of both is good XP-120 ahead on Temp/Noise
PC Perspective - Comparison Swiftech MCX6400 (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=91&type=expert&pid=5)

Thanks :)

isp
03-14-2005, 10:21 AM
DFI released the latest beta bios dated Jan 28 for UT Lanparty NF3, DRAM bank interleave finally made available in BIOS.

Could anyone else find this one he's speaking of? or should I just use the tictac modded BIOS?

aCidbAbY
03-14-2005, 10:55 AM
Could anyone else find this one he's speaking of? or should I just use the tictac modded BIOS?


woopty woop woop :toast: EnJOy>>> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=1582085&postcount=848

isp
03-14-2005, 11:22 AM
Yeah that just takes me to tictacs post. Thanks I'll use that then...

CrimeDog
03-16-2005, 08:39 AM
edit: haha, i'm such a noob i need sata slots 3&4

Borgschulze
05-31-2005, 06:58 PM
anyone tried .09 sempron on this board yet?
Running a Palermo 2800+ at 2.2ghz for now, rock stable, getting higher seems to be instable... probably something I missed.
I have got CPU-Z Validation at 2.6ghz though...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18549
x86-secret seems to be down right now...

brechtvm
07-19-2005, 04:25 AM
just a (short) question :

*Does every "DFI LANPARTY UT nforce3 motherboard" reach the 300mhz HTT ?
because i tested with mine, and i reached 265~270mhz..but nothing higher...
i tested with ch-5 ram wich is able to run 250mhz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.16vdimm...
(i use the modded bios > up to 4vdimm)

*When i set 3.3Vdimm, my system resets the bios to 2.5vdimm > what can cause this 'strange' problem ?!

my system : http://pc.naar.be (choose the amd64 2800+ setup)

greetz
brecht

(sorry for my bad english.. i'm from belgium)

Borgschulze
07-19-2005, 04:28 AM
You can always try a divider... and my board can reach 325mhz HTT but the CPU can't handle that stably.
So lower your CPU multiplier and change the RAM Divider, then see how high it goes.

brechtvm
07-19-2005, 04:32 AM
You can always try a divider... and my board can reach 325mhz HTT but the CPU can't handle that stably.
So lower your CPU multiplier and change the RAM Divider, then see how high it goes.

i tried
lowering the ram divider
lowering the cpu multiplier
i set my LDT to 1x
...
ram timings > should it be at auto ? or can i set my CL2 timings (with my divider active..)

UPDATE :

i can set 300mhz in bios..
and ram with divider..
LDT @ 1x
MP @ 4x
vChipset @ 1.89v (set at 1.9v)
but now...
i get an error
--------------------------------------------------------------
NVIDIA RAID IDE ROM BIOS 4.66
Copyright (c) 2004 NVIDIA Corp.

Detecting array ...
_
---------------------------------------------------------------
> thats the error...
(i have a 7200 rpm hdd (ata133))

STEvil
07-19-2005, 07:29 PM
*Does every "DFI LANPARTY UT nforce3 motherboard" reach the 300mhz HTT ?
because i tested with mine, and i reached 265~270mhz..but nothing higher...
i tested with ch-5 ram wich is able to run 250mhz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.16vdimm...
(i use the modded bios > up to 4vdimm)
You will need to use a divider above 260+ likely.


*When i set 3.3Vdimm, my system resets the bios to 2.5vdimm > what can cause this 'strange' problem ?!

Your PSU's +3.3v supply is not high enough for the motherboard to be able to output more than approximately 3.2v. You will need to increase the +3.3v supply to increase above 3.2v in the bios.

Borgschulze
07-19-2005, 09:40 PM
Yes, set the timings for your RAM manually, do not let the BIOS do it, it tends to mess up my timings at least...

Set the LDT to 3x, and prepare to tweak alot till you get it stable.

brechtvm
07-20-2005, 12:14 PM
how can i reach the 300mhz HTT..
i still get the Nvidia Raid error, while all RAID configs are disabled :(
i use :
*1 ata hdd (ata slot 1)
*1 cd-drive (ata slot 2)
where's the problem ? :(

BB mods's
09-10-2005, 06:29 PM
Yes i get the nv raid error also..im looking to oc my 3000+ DTR but cant get past 240 fsb....this is making me sad :(

SunTzu69
09-14-2005, 08:17 AM
This is what I can get prime95 stable on my A64 mobile 3200+ CH with a gig of OCZ 3700EB, and water on the cpu:

250Mhz x 10 @1.78v - 1T ; 3-3-3-8 @ 3.1v

Other than minor tweaks and trying to lower the multi (I can't get over 270 with 1gb of EB and reasonable settings anyhow), I think I have it maxed for the moment. I will try to tighten my ram settings some more. I have tried to get it stable at 3-3-2-8, but its a no go.

I followed that "ideal" OC settings for the board on some other thread (dfi-street?, I forget). Does this seem ok to you guys? Any tips for getting more out of the cpu or tighter timings?

ugp
10-11-2005, 04:43 PM
Now for some reason when I took apart my old system to clean it all out because of the dust it was working fine before hand... After I put everything back in it stopped POSTing...what could have happened? Or what did I do to it?

JAWS
10-12-2005, 07:03 PM
Does anyone have any links to old bios files? I found a disk with one labeled: N32LD128

not sure how old it is.

thanks

SunTzu69
10-28-2005, 09:58 AM
Guys, my 3700EB just failed on me (one of the sticks). Since it is discontinued, I am wondering what you guys would recommend in the new OCZ line that would be at least as good? What is an acceptable replacement given that it no longer exists?

Thanks