KHX3000 showing as pc2700!!??

[BigDov]

Wondering if this something new, or if other owners see this as well- in apps like AIDA, CPU-Z, Sandra2004, they all ID it as Kingston PC2700. I'm not TOO worried about it, as I'm starting the torture tests on it now- 210 2-3-3-11 w/ 2.8v just to see where it'll go from there. So far so good!!

I think I really need an L12 mod to go higher with any reliability and stability though.

[Grace]

Applications read the NS code from the chips.

Since those actually carry either Winbond BH-6 or Samsung TCB3 chips, depending on the revision, they are 'actually' 6ns chips, that's why the software can't tell the difference.

...seeing that your memory does 2/6/2/2 timings from your signature, they are 99% Winbond BH-6 chips.

[Drisler]

Umm..Isn't KHX3000 BH-5?

[Soulburner]

BH-6.

[faruquehabib]

hey, bh-6 aint shabby...give it some voltage!

[Lithan]

Ummm Actually khx3000 is almost all bh-5. I've HEARD of bh-6... but never seen it. It identifies as 2700 because 3000 is only obtainable by overclocking. It's not spd to 3200... because then it would be khx3200.

[Soulburner]

I know someone who "just" bought them directly from Kingston for a sale price. They are BH6.

[corbec]

whats the difference from bh6-bh5? much? i just ordered 512mb of the pc3000hyperx

[Lithan]

Bh6 tends to need more voltage from what I hear.

And I've owned 6 sticks of khx3000. A00 and A01. Bh5, Bh5,Bh5,Bh5, Kingston 5ns winbond, kingston 5ns winbond.

Maybe since bh5 isn't made anymore they are using bh6... but that assumes bh6 is still made. Look at me shrug.

[Sovereignty]

I got 2x512 KHX3000 from kingston ($184 shipped btw ) thursday and they're both BH6.

[Lithan]

Hmm Yeah I guess bh6 must still be made and since bh5 is gone for ch5. I think timings are already 7-3-3-2.0... so i don't know WHY they wouldn't go to ch5... but who cares.


I got one from newegg two weeks ago. It was BH5. I'm getting another this week. I'll let you all know what it is.

[Grace]

CH-5 is rated for Pc3200 speeds, BH-5 the same. The Pc3000 would always use cheaper, rated for Pc2700 operation chips, just 'hand-picked' to work at Pc3000 speeds. Companies only 'upgrade' chips, rarely 'downgrade' them since they pay them according to the speed rating, nothing else.

...matter of fact, I never saw any Kingston HyperX Pc3000 carrying BH-5 chips, only Pc3200. Are you SURE that it has BH-5 chips? Even if those exist, those are pretty rare since they must be an 'emergency' production line to meet with demand.

BH-6 CAN be better than BH-5 some times. My BH-6 modules are way better than most BH-5 modules I've ever tried. However BH-6 chips will perform with high voltages, 3v and up. Also BH-6 chips are inconsistent, some are extremely good but some can start failing at low speeds too.

...you feed them, they are happy, they dance.

[shrae]

A lot of the early revision HyperX PC3000 was in fact BH-5. You will find BH-5 occasionally on early HyperX PC2700 as well, and even some old ValueRAM PC2700.

[Grace]

ValueRAM Pc2700 always had BH-6 chips. I were HUNTING those series back then and never saw any BH-5 chips on any of their series.

...and I find it impossible for HyperX Pc2700 to carry BH-5 as well. After they were carrying BH-6 there wasn't another revision or anything, they stopped right there. Also, considering that BH-5 chips came into the market about 1 year after BH-6 chips, the 'early' revisions of Pc3000 modules are quite impossible to carry them as well. They barely existed.

[Bravo]

Originally posted by Soulburner
BH-6.

The later/last revisions use 5ns Kingston modules, not BH-5/BH-6/CH-5.

[BigDov]

Wow! I go away for a couple hours and all this!!! They're pretty happy at 210 2-2-3-7 with 2.8v for all sorts of stuff- benching, burning in, gaming etc. Whatever they are, I like 'em so far.

[faruquehabib]

valueram has bh-6??

[Grace]

Originally posted by faruquehabib
valueram has bh-6??

Yes, *SOME* modules of ValueRAM Pc2700 carried BH-6 like *SOME* modules of ValueRAM Pc3200 carried BH-5.

ValueRAM is using any kind of chips available at the time, it's completely random. Matter of fact, I've seen ValueRAM modules with almost every chip possible on them. Hynix, Winbond, Samsung, Infineon and so on...

[Bravo]

Grace, not lately. BH-5/CH-5 ValueMem chips here dried up about 3 months ago, nothing but 6ns/5ns Kingston modules now.

Btw, HyperX owns, check this:

220 @ 2-2-2-11 @ 2.9v, §§§§ty score because its single channel using a 6 - 9 multiplier (forget which, score wasnt higher then 2250 from memory)

[Grace]

Originally posted by Bravo
Grace, not lately. BH-5/CH-5 ValueMem chips here dried up about 3 months ago, nothing but 6ns/5ns Kingston modules now.

BH-5 chips dissapeared since 9 months ago since they aren't in production since last year, CH-5 chips are still in use. I have seen ValueRAM modules with CH-5 just a week ago shipping to the market and matter of fact, I picked 2 to test them. And this week I saw Samsung CC4 on them.

Also as I said, 'Kingston' chips are plain re-labeled chips. Kingston doesn't make chips, they can be anything they like but not 'Kingston'. And as I said too, Kingston ValueRAM is using any kind of chip that is available at the time for them. They can carry literally anything that meets the specifications.

Ps. ValueRAM does better.

[skate2snow]

what are you saying!!!!!value RAM are not better than HyperX!!!!

BTW: if you change the timing the benching accesories will show whats corresponding whit those timing

[Grace]

Originally posted by skate2snow
what are you saying!!!!!value RAM are not better than HyperX!!!!

BTW: if you change the timing the benching accesories will show whats corresponding whit those timing

Yes, true, in theory it isn't, I were just using irony there.


I didn't understand your second sentence at all though...

[shrae]

Originally posted by Grace
ValueRAM Pc2700 always had BH-6 chips. I were HUNTING those series back then and never saw any BH-5 chips on any of their series.

I bought 2x256MB ValueRAM PC2700 that was BH-5 (later installed into my bro's rig). Got it from Circuit City B+M, as they had all the clear plastic retail boxes available to pick and choose from. I also saw a 512MB ValueRAM Pc2700 stick of BH-5.

[Grace]

Originally posted by shrae
I bought 2x256MB ValueRAM PC2700 that was BH-5 (later installed into my bro's rig). Got it from Circuit City B+M, as they had all the clear plastic retail boxes available to pick and choose from. I also saw a 512MB ValueRAM Pc2700 stick of BH-5.

Well, personally I never saw BH-5 chips on those, just BH-6, at least on the few...thousands that went before my eyes. Also all of ValueRAM have clear boxes, they are no different.

When did you get them?

[Speed_Mechanic]

Originally posted by Grace
BH-5 chips dissapeared since 9 months ago since they aren't in production since last year, CH-5 chips are still in use. I have seen ValueRAM modules with CH-5 just a week ago shipping to the market and matter of fact, I picked 2 to test them. And this week I saw Samsung CC4 on them.

Also as I said, 'Kingston' chips are plain re-labeled chips. Kingston doesn't make chips, they can be anything they like but not 'Kingston'. And as I said too, Kingston ValueRAM is using any kind of chip that is available at the time for them. They can carry literally anything that meets the specifications.

Winbond had BH-5 chips, in a seemingly limited-manufacture run, until the end of September, 2003.