"Frame" for IHS-less CPUs?

sai · 05-12-2006, 04:53 AM

Hi, I'm curious about if anyone built a frame yet against chipping the core when you removed the IHS. I got a Scythe Ninja CPU Cooler and I think it's nearly impossible not to break something when the IHS is removed. Please help me, I know you guys always know a solution to everything!

I'm going to slice it today if anyone got a good idea ;-)

MikalCarbine · 05-12-2006, 06:03 AM

Would the little pads from a 3200+ Barton bed sufficient for something like this? Or are the heights of the core dramatically different

Eldonko · 05-12-2006, 06:33 AM

Should be good yeah, or you can order shims here. You will need a few though because they are thin.

largon · 05-12-2006, 06:37 AM

Radeon X800 serie GPUs have a shimm that fit perfectly for K8.
X800 shimm on top of a S939 IHS:

MikalCarbine · 05-12-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldonko

Should be good yeah, or you can order shims here. You will need a few though because they are thin.

Do you know how high the A64 core is compared to a Socket A chip? I have a socket A shim lying around and a dead 3200+ I could take those pads off of, that would be perfect if I didn't need to get another shim, but I assume I will because you said I will need more than 1

Edit:

What about a 7800GT shim?

I could yank mine of my 7800GT then ahah

largon · 05-12-2006, 07:54 AM

K7 CPU package is 10mm larger than K8 (50mm vs. 40mm) so a S462 shimm won't work without abuse.

Eldonko · 05-12-2006, 07:55 AM

Shim thickness should be .029 inches +/- .001. Tarccm measured his custom shim with digital caliper, heres a pic.

MikalCarbine · 05-12-2006, 09:44 AM

Now if I only had a digital caliper to measure mine

sai · 05-12-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coolingbug

Use some Adhesive-Back Neoprene Strip 1/32" 50A Durometer sheet and cut 4 strips and stick around the core. Its a tad higher than the core, but under the right pressure 50-75lbs will sink so core contact is perfect.

That would be...in germany

MikalCarbine · 05-12-2006, 11:49 AM

Just popped my IHS, the K7 shim was (like stated before) much larger than the k8, too large to even bother using...

I used my 3200+ Barton rubber pads on the corner of my 4200+ (attached using a drop of super glue)

Sorry for the crappy picture :P

I shaved the silicon that was holding the IHS down on the corners, making the rubber pads more even

safan80 · 05-12-2006, 02:39 PM

so lets hear what kind of temps your running.

aMp · 05-12-2006, 02:43 PM

I just found a high-durability rubber band that was about 30% thicker than the core, put a few pieces on the sides of the chip, and relied on the compression ratio to get good contact. Worked like a charm.

Eldonko · 05-12-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aMp

I just found a high-durability rubber band that was about 30% thicker than the core, put a few pieces on the sides of the chip, and relied on the compression ratio to get good contact. Worked like a charm.

Thats a good idea

Aphex_Tom_9 · 05-12-2006, 02:54 PM

heh, when i was mounting my old 3400+ DTR under my Mach, i used cut up credit card bits glued around the core area.

MikalCarbine · 05-12-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by safan80

so lets hear what kind of temps your running.

22 idle, 29 load

used to be 24 idle 34 load

Hasn't help my overclock that much (at stock volts at least) I think I got a single MHz out of it

tarrcm · 05-13-2006, 02:27 PM

Hey man, not that much of a deal to make one & no digi cal is necessary. I made one from 0.05 inch al sheet, used a flat file to get it to match, checked it by using a straight edge over the core & then fine tuned it by applying TIM to core & mounting dice tube or evap head or stock air cooler for contact. A little patience & elbo grease is all it takes, here's a link that might be of interest:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&goto=newpost

nn_step · 05-13-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

Would the little pads from a 3200+ Barton bed sufficient for something like this? Or are the heights of the core dramatically different

Actually this is what I use.. the Cores are EXACTLY (to 0.002 mm) the same thickness

tarrcm · 05-14-2006, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tarrcm

Hey man, not that much of a deal to make one & no digi cal is necessary. I made one from 0.05 inch al sheet, used a flat file to get it to match, checked it by using a straight edge over the core & then fine tuned it by applying TIM to core & mounting dice tube or evap head or stock air cooler for contact. A little patience & elbo grease is all it takes, here's a link that might be of interest:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&goto=newpost

Although I did make some using 0.050in sheet al THOSE WERE NOT THE ONES I USE.
The following pics tell all. As you can see I used 0.025in sheet al and took off 0.001 to 0.002 off with a fine flat file 'till it gave the contact I was looking for.
Apologies for the previous post & to you Eldonko for my mistake. Note that the calipers are only useful to reproduce or record dimensions, not necessary to make one, simply go by the fit

The goopy stuff is LET I used to hold everything in place.

Fission · 05-14-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aMp

I just found a high-durability rubber band that was about 30% thicker than the core, put a few pieces on the sides of the chip, and relied on the compression ratio to get good contact. Worked like a charm.

high-durability rubber FTW.

nn_step · 05-14-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fission

high-durability rubber FTW.

Please stay on topic

MikalCarbine · 05-14-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fission

high-durability rubber FTW.

But would it work?

Eldonko · 05-14-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tarrcm

Although I did make some using 0.050in sheet al THOSE WERE NOT THE ONES I USE.
The following pics tell all. As you can see I used 0.025in sheet al and took off 0.001 to 0.002 off with a fine flat file 'till it gave the contact I was looking for.
Apologies for the previous post & to you Eldonko for my mistake. Note that the calipers are only useful to reproduce or record dimensions, not necessary to make one, simply go by the fit

Ah so 0.024, thanks for the clarification.

Fission · 05-14-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

But would it work?

lube/jelly washed off it, I assume that it would be some of the densest rubber available, and can be rolled to fit the size you need. And of course, if you had to smuggle the proc into jail, well...

eBoy0 · 05-14-2006, 05:55 PM

I'm ganna try plexi shim a try

Edit: Nvm unless i really heavily sand it down, it's too thick.

MikalCarbine · 05-14-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fission

lube/jelly washed off it, I assume that it would be some of the densest rubber available, and can be rolled to fit the size you need. And of course, if you had to smuggle the proc into jail, well...

LOL