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Old 06-10-2005, 09:37 PM   #1
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AMD Announces FOUR cores, X4???

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In a detailed briefing for analysts in New York on Friday, executives at Advanced Micro Devices painted the company as making "irreversible progress" into new architectures, specifically multicore microprocessors and 64-bit processing.

Executives confirmed that the company plans to enhance its Opteron enterprise processor line to four cores in 2007, adding focused optimizations to manage power and improve throughput.
There is a great article I found over at Extremetech which explained some of AMD's plans for the future. Some of these include...
  • Shifting to DDR2 by 2006.
  • Shifting to DDR3 by 2007.
  • Dual core mobiles in 2006.
  • WiMax support for notebooks.
  • Enhancement of current 64-bit Semprons.
  • HyperTransport 3.0 (Three times the throughput of todays HTT).
  • 65nm chips coming soon from the new fab/plant in Germany.
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AMD's desktop roadmaps show a "xGHz" version of HyperTransport shipping in 2007, which AMD executives did not explain.
The good news is AMD will start working with IBM to enhance the 65nm process. The bad news is AMD will start working with IBM to enhance the 65nm process.

This has a lot of juicy details that many of you will probably enjoy. Here are a few links.

The article at ExtremeTech.
Images from the announcement.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:01 PM   #2
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:07 PM   #3
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65nm. :drool:

Hopefully it'll be as successful as AMD's move to 90nm.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:12 PM   #4
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65nm. :drool:

Hopefully it'll be as successful as AMD's move to 90nm.
it wasnt 100% succesful in overclocking terms though (subzero probs, presume its a 90nm thing anyway?) though it was a good one none the less
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:08 PM   #5
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wow, ddr3, 3ghz fsb, quadcore, 65nm, das gonna kick ass
just like the camaro coming back in 2k7
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:32 AM   #6
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Just incase their X4 is a failure, they have X3 as a backup.
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Old 06-11-2005, 02:32 AM   #7
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DDR2 in 2006 but then DDR3 in 2007 already....
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Old 06-11-2005, 03:02 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by uscfan
There is a great article I found over at Extremetech which explained some of AMD's plans for the future. Some of these include...
  • Shifting to DDR2 by 2006.
  • Shifting to DDR3 by 2007.
  • Dual core mobiles in 2006.
  • WiMax support for notebooks.
  • Enhancement of current 64-bit Semprons.
  • HyperTransport 3.0 (Three times the throughput of todays HTT).
  • 65nm chips coming soon from the new fab/plant in Germany.

The good news is AMD will start working with IBM to enhance the 65nm process. The bad news is AMD will start working with IBM to enhance the 65nm process.

This has a lot of juicy details that many of you will probably enjoy. Here are a few links.

The article at ExtremeTech.
Images from the announcement.

Yup. AMD's Quad Core CPUs is the evolution of the AMD K8 platform. Theoretically...the AMD K9

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Old 06-11-2005, 04:16 AM   #9
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DDR2 in 2006 but then DDR3 in 2007 already....
IMO they should just forget about DDR2 if they are supporting DDR3 so quickly after its release. I'd say while we wait to just add a second 128-bit memory controler to the 2nd core when M2 is released. Then just put 2 memory slots per processor. With such a setup there should be not only be little overclocking problems with 4x512 but also 12.8GB/s available to begin with without overclocking. Thats essentially whats available with NUMA and dual Opteron.

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Old 06-11-2005, 04:37 AM   #10
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i would go straight to dd3
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:58 AM   #11
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If they are going straight for DDR3, would they want Intel to know?
Maybe they are keeping quiet, and pretending they are going for DDR2.
While intel is probably preparing to push DDR3 right after AMD finishes moving to DDR2, or at least that's their plan i bet. Gotta keep Intel riddled you know

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I'd say while we wait to just add a second 128-bit memory controler to the 2nd core when M2 is released.
Ewitte, that would require 4 memory busses to be routed out.. That's a lot of pins and a very hard (expensive) mainboard to make. I think that's just what they want to avoid.
In fact if you look at how little faster memory improves performance, i think AMD is actually more interested in getting more cores to actually utilize all the on-die memory controller action. Memory isn't the bottleneck right now.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:31 AM   #12
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it wasnt 100% succesful in overclocking terms though (subzero probs, presume its a 90nm thing anyway?) though it was a good one none the less
yes it has its flaws, but its way better then intels 90nm
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:34 AM   #13
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Yeah I guess the transition to 90nm wasnt perfect, but what is? Upgrading an OS, installing new hardware, there are always little things that screw up.

What I am excited about is the xHGz HTT, to me it understands that the hypertransport will be running at multiple gigahertz, which might be wierd becuase then it might run faster than the clockspeed? Or maybe it will mean that clockspeed's will go thru the roof?

But I really think in the past AMD has done a good job embracing new technologies, and they will continue to do so. I hope AMD releases a bit more information regarding all of this.
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:23 PM   #14
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Just a bit of a teaser... but the internal architecture and registers of the A64 are setup to allow up to 8 cores on a chip (not saying they are going to do that... just that the "hooks" are in place for it)
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:52 PM   #15
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:56 PM   #16
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Good info! I'll stay K8 DDR1 S939 until those fabled DDR3 mainboards come out - if indeed the transition is to take place so quickly from DDR2 to DDR3...
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Old 06-11-2005, 01:34 PM   #17
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Im guessing they want to release a DDR2 version in 2006 maybe due to availability.
DDR3 could be too scarce and might be buggy at the time, and DDR2 could become what DDR is right now.
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Im guessing they want to release a DDR2 version in 2006 maybe due to availability.
DDR3 could be too scarce and might be buggy at the time, and DDR2 could become what DDR is right now.
Starting to. Alot of different DDR2 memory is out now, and latency is lowering as well. 2.5-x-x-x latency DDR2 will be sweet
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yeah i think that they should give the option of DDR2 because the latencies will be low....when ddr3 comes out the latencies will be what ddr is now....ty....ddr3 will need time to evolve like ddr2 did
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Now if some one some where maybe rambus given license to WINBOND to Make DDR II/III then we will be Save ..............

lo bring up DDR II/III CL2225 action!! Winbond
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:05 AM   #21
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AMD is really making the moves with X2 and now the X4 and 65nm...
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AMD forever

I never imagined at those old K6 300 times amd would come up with cpus it is making now.
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Old 06-12-2005, 11:26 AM   #23
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i would go straight to dd3
Agreed, I'll run with the X2 and 2Gig of DDR until 2007.
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Tbird & PC133 -> Barton & DDR -> X2 & DDR -> X? & DDR?
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i would go straight to dd3
I personally would wait and let ddr3 evolve like ddr2 did before making a move, and then being 13 right now, and 15 in 2007.... I would also need my dad's permission.... Can't wait to see what these new technologies can do though!

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