News: 7800Ultra specs pop up?

[saaya]

http://news.mydrivers.com/pages/2005...5008_67547.htm

500mhz core clock instead of 430mhz for the 7800gtx?
that card should score above 8K easily
seems the speculation about a 7800 Ultra with higher clocks was right

[Disposibleteen]

sounds good, any word on prices?

[saaya]

since the 7800gts will replace the 6800U it will cost 499$ i guess, and the 7800Ultra will cost 599? 699? the current 6800U 512mb costs 800$, and the 7800U will have 512mb as well i guess, so maybe nvidia will replace the 6800U with 512mb with the 7800U with 512mb for the same price? maybe even higher?
they probably see that people are willing to spend 1000$ for cpus and are now going to release videocards in that pricerange as well...

seriously, we are reaching prices where a next gen console becomes cheaper than upgrading your pc with the latest videocard, i hope the consoles will push ati and nvidia to rethink they pricing strategy...

[Sheograth]

Theyre all gonna be $600+ for a while. With video cards, stores a guilty of price gouging that would make OPEC jealous.

[shadowing]

That sux. I really wanted the 7800 Ultras to be at about $499 not $599.

EDIT: Any news if there is going to be 512MB version?

[iddqd]

Yeah, and ironically, they become cheaper and cheaper for them to manufacture, as the prices climb higher and higher. Go figure.

[Foxie3a]

I've always been amazed at video card prices, and this is even more amazing. I would never spend $1000 or up on a processor. The most I've ever spent on one thing is $125, which is how much my 3.0C, and 530J cost. I just sold my 3.0C for $200, which is about the cost of a brand new 630. I don't know anyone who has a 512mb video card, so I'm guessing that these new expensive ones will be pretty scarce also. They'll be the equivalent to a P4EE in my opinion, or maybe more common like the AMD FX series.

Processors dont really seem to differ from eachother. A 2.8C is about the same as a 3.0C. A 2.6C isn't even too far from a 3.0C. You can even say there isn't too much of a difference between the entire P4C line! The difference between a Celeron 2.4ghz compared to a P4 3ghz is not as big of a difference between a 6200 and a 6800Ultra.

People love playing computer games, and they're desperate to play them. Their processor doesn't matter too much, and their Vcard does. With huge leaps in performance from one card to the next, these manufacturers like Nvidia and ATI can afford to have very high prices on their products. I wish I owned a Vcard company.

[Cyrilix]

http://news.mydrivers.com/pages/2005...5008_67547.htm

500mhz core clock instead of 430mhz for the 7800gtx?
that card should score above 8K easily
seems the speculation about a 7800 Ultra with higher clocks was right

It says 500 MHz or higher, not just 500 MHz...so hopefully it will be higher. 8000 3dmarks is still disappointing for a next-generation card.

[Erasmus354]

Yeah, and ironically, they become cheaper and cheaper for them to manufacture, as the prices climb higher and higher. Go figure.

and become harder and harder to design/develop, go figure. Not to mention inflation.

[Revv23]

man the 9700pro is still king.

Seriously, when before have we seen doubled performance and no price increase over the last GEN?

i mean $400 was a good price even when the 4600+ was out, not like the voodoo's of yore werent over $400, i dont think there ever was a cards with the longevity and the cheapeness of the 9700/9800 cards. seriously, after 2+ years with a 9800 that i got for $300, it still plays almost everything on max detail, im just hoping that the r520 will stay at $500, because im planning on getting the next gen of cards, but not for over $500.

[xman01]

500usd won't be that bad if the gain over the current gen is good

[perkam]

It says 500 MHz or higher, not just 500 MHz...so hopefully it will be higher. 8000 3dmarks is still disappointing for a next-generation card.

Yup. As I stated before...I'm looking for at least 8.5k stock on any new nex gen card for it to be considered good

As for prices, MSRP will prolly be $599...price gouging will take it up to $699 REAL FAST

Perkam

[ferrari_freak]

I don't care how bad it is, as long as it's better than the 6 series. I seriously gotta replace this 32mb nvidia riva tnt2. It lags in some areas of NFS Hot Pursuit 2 with mostly max settings at 640x480. Now that's just sad.

Usama aka Ferrari Freak

[Nubius]

8500 in 3dmark05......man that's just amazing honestly......I can't imagine what kind of cards we'll have and what graphics will be available when 20k in 3dmark05 is considered a 'decent' score with a single card solution....not to mention that if you purchased 3dmark05 and could set the resolution up at 1600x1200 with some AA and AF I bet it'd look quite amazing.....buuut yeah I can't read chinese or japanese or whatever it is, plus my computer isn't wanting to load that page so I just gotta take your word on what it says

[wittekakker]

seriously, we are reaching prices where a next gen console becomes cheaper than upgrading your pc with the latest videocard, i hope the consoles will push ati and nvidia to rethink they pricing strategy...

The most funny thing is that those consoles use nVidia and ATI video cards, so why should nVidia and ATI care when consoles are taking it over. They are just selling there card, wether it's in a ps3, xbox360 or pc.


On the other hand, when there is an ultra on 500MHz or more, there is much chanche the G70's are going to be good overclockers. I hope enabling pixelpipelines is possible again

[saaya]

and become harder and harder to design/develop, go figure. Not to mention inflation.

nah, i dont think so... i got some business stats from ati some weeks ago showing how much they spend on development, how much on marketing etc, and they didnt increase development costs significantly over the last years...

perkam, i think the price will jump up beyond 699$

8500 in 3dmark05......man that's just amazing honestly......I can't imagine what kind of cards we'll have and what graphics will be available when 20k in 3dmark05 is considered a 'decent' score with a single card solution....not to mention that if you purchased 3dmark05 and could set the resolution up at 1600x1200 with some AA and AF I bet it'd look quite amazing.....buuut yeah I can't read chinese or japanese or whatever it is, plus my computer isn't wanting to load that page so I just gotta take your word on what it says

id say 10 more years of this "wow, check out this new card!" and then graphics reach a point where upgrading becomes meaningless

The most funny thing is that those consoles use nVidia and ATI video cards, so why should nVidia and ATI care when consoles are taking it over. They are just selling there card, wether it's in a ps3, xbox360 or pc.


On the other hand, when there is an ultra on 500MHz or more, there is much chanche the G70's are going to be good overclockers. I hope enabling pixelpipelines is possible again

ati and nvidia should care as they make much more money in the pc market than in the console market
and people dont upgrade consoles, only ever 3 years or so, wich means much lower sells as well if consoles take over big parts of the gaming community...

[kryptobs2000]

last I heard, how much truth there is to this I don't know, but the top end r520 is supposed to be 700$ This is getting rediculous, what happened to the top end card being 400$ that was a very reasonable price imo, and it's not like it costs more money to manufacture the cards now then it did before.

[saaya]

yeah and back then you could actually buy the cards for 400$ when they were launched and not for 50% more and only 4 weeks later :\

[don_vercetti]

as long as there is a vanilla 7800, with unlockable pipes, then i'll be more than happy...

[***Deimos***]

Yeah, and ironically, they become cheaper and cheaper for them to manufacture, as the prices climb higher and higher. Go figure.

technically you are 100% correct. But, in reality, it takes years of patient research and development to develop something like 90nm lithography process.. you dont just turn the dial from 130nm to 110nm to 90nm and presto you are done!

And ofcourse, I haven't even gotten into the increasing costs of designing, optimizing, testing and troubleshooting large scale designs like 6800 (hundreds of million of transistors... )

[***Deimos***]

as long as there is a vanilla 7800, with unlockable pipes, then i'll be more than happy...

amen brother

[Craig]

id say 10 more years of this "wow, check out this new card!" and then graphics reach a point where upgrading becomes meaningless

10 years? Nah, more like 5, if that. Consider the performance jumps per generation, the new extra phsics cards we see coming out now, 5 years they'll be just like watching a movie.

Gets crazier all the time.

[alexio]

last I heard, how much truth there is to this I don't know, but the top end r520 is supposed to be 700$ This is getting rediculous, what happened to the top end card being 400$ that was a very reasonable price imo, and it's not like it costs more money to manufacture the cards now then it did before.

It is actually getting more and more expensive. Just look at the die-size and imagine how few cards actually have all pipes working

Also designing a 300 million transistor gpu isn't as easy as designing a Gforce 4.

[HousERaT]

This seems like such overkill to me. Do we really have any games to utilize the full potential of current cards?