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03-05-2005, 08:43 PM
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AMD Turion 64 2800+ First Look!!
AMD Turion 64 2800+ - 1.6 GHz - 1M L2 - Core 90nm Rev 'E' - TDP 25W Socket754
1600Mhz
2000Mhz
Tnanks Taiwan 阿格斯 Test
Source
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03-05-2005, 08:54 PM
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Yummy 
I wonder how these do under some serious volts. 
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03-05-2005, 08:56 PM
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Where did u get that?? I thought they were just focussing on finishing the FX-57. Oh well, nice results. Is that on stock heatsink and everything. Howcome voltage went down while clock went up? Looks good as of now.
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03-05-2005, 08:57 PM
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My DFI wonders the same thing. Maybe it's the dynamic clocking that accounts for the difference in voltages?
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03-05-2005, 08:57 PM
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Damnnnnn those are nice. Will there be a 3200+ with a 10x multi?  I smell 3.5ghz on Dice... Unless these have sub zero issues like the winnies? 
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03-05-2005, 09:03 PM
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You sure about the 25w TDP. The D in the beginning of the OPN denotes 35w.
http://www.amdboard.com/low-power_mobile_roadmap.html
Looks like the Turion line will be 25-35w, but the mobile Semprons will be the only ones in 25w territory. Lancaster is rated at 35w.
Looks sweet. Can't wait for Lancaster. 
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03-05-2005, 09:21 PM
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sweet! 2ghz with 1.05v :o
i wonder what that would be like? 15W? :o
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03-05-2005, 09:25 PM
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Is that right? I figured it was a CPU-Z fudge. 
If rev E0 can do 2GHz at 1v... wow...
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03-05-2005, 09:27 PM
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i thougt so as well, but it reads the volts correctly on the first cpu-z screenie and 2ghz with 1v isnt THAT far off, ive seen 2ghz with 1.2v already...
happy bday sxs btw! 
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03-06-2005, 12:30 AM
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Damn, that's amazing guys.
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03-06-2005, 02:09 AM
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turion = 754 amd 64 mobile ?
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03-06-2005, 02:15 AM
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will the turion be dual or single channel (im guessing single) with a better mem controller than other newcastles?
im hoping ill be able to put it in my DFI 250gb
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03-06-2005, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TEDY
turion = 754 amd 64 mobile ?
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Correct, there will not be any mobile for 939.
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03-06-2005, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by shuRe
will the turion be dual or single channel (im guessing single) with a better mem controller than other newcastles?
im hoping ill be able to put it in my DFI 250gb |
I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong, in fact, the E0 have improved memory controller, but that don't mean it will support dual channel.
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03-06-2005, 02:37 AM
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It's single channel,d ual channel just isn't possbile with Socket 754,
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03-06-2005, 03:12 AM
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A64 4200+
Turion 2800+
What now ? FX57 N
Where have you them ?
Great ... My A64-M 3400+ 62W CG S754 doesn't make better than 1.1 GHz with 1V !!
A don't have testing my Winnie @ 1V
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03-06-2005, 04:38 AM
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What are you waiting for? overclock it more!
PS. my 3000+ does 2GHz at 1.0V too.
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03-06-2005, 04:45 AM
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looks awesome!
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03-06-2005, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by computersmsa
A64 4200+
Turion 2800+
What now ? FX57 N
Where have you them ?
Great ... My A64-M 3400+ 62W CG S754 doesn't make better than 1.1 GHz with 1V !!
A don't have testing my Winnie @ 1V |
thats cuz its 130nm
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JHH (Nvidia) nov 2009: Tolerance for failure is important, it puts our employees in a position where they are willing to try new ideas link
Solus Corvus - maybe things would get better if people addressed the content of each others posts instead of trying to discredit each other with insults and poisoning the well. Attack the argument not the person.
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03-06-2005, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by computersmsa
A64 4200+
Turion 2800+
What now ? FX57 N
Where have you them ?
Great ... My A64-M 3400+ 62W CG S754 doesn't make better than 1.1 GHz with 1V !!
A don't have testing my Winnie @ 1V |
yea, he's right. How have you been getting all this new stuff that we dont have access to? I wouldnt mind testing stuff out for AMD.
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03-06-2005, 09:02 AM
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lol, hes not testing it and theres no way any of you will get stuff from amd to test, sorry to pop your dreams
just stop asking where it comes from, if he would answer your questions that somebody we are so thankfull for showing us those informations might lose his job or even get sued by amd, so just sit back and enjoy those wonderfull results
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03-06-2005, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fr0stedflakes
You sure about the 25w TDP. The D in the beginning of the OPN denotes 35w.
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I've never seen TDP encoded in an AMD OPN before. Do you have a link?
(Fab51 is wrong to split the first 3 letter code into 2 letters + 1 "power letter", as it clearly DOESN'T WORK with many example A64's and Opterons!)
So the new code of "TMD" must be taken as a whole. We don't know the official TDP until it is announced. (But they've already said their will be 25W and 35W parts, and we already *have* the 35W line (current 90nm LP Mobile A64).)
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03-06-2005, 11:23 AM
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Neither had I in any AMD spec sheets, but according to this AM is the family (a.k.a. Athlon64 mobile in the current mobiles) and the letter after it is the power design. A = 81.5w for DTRs, N = 62w for transportables, and D = 35w for low-power. Looks like mobiles fall under the Turion family now (TM), but the next number should still note TDP.
http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-64-e.html
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03-06-2005, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fr0stedflakes
Neither had I in any AMD spec sheets, but according to this AM is the family (a.k.a. Athlon64 mobile in the current mobiles) and the letter after it is the power design. A = 81.5w for DTRs, N = 62w for transportables, and D = 35w for low-power. Looks like mobiles fall under the Turion family now (TM), but the next number should still note TDP.
http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-64-e.html |
I just edited my post above.
Fab51 is wrong, IMO. The existing parts out there do not support the interpretation of the 3rd letter as power.
(Winchester has the same ADA code as Newcastle, for instance, with different TDP.)
You take the first 3 letters together as the "family" of part, and there may be different TDPs within it. That's what the data to date indicate.
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03-06-2005, 01:16 PM
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Good point, I can't say I really have an arguement to that. All the other info seems to fit, though, so I really have no reason to believe they're wrong.
But notice the roadmap posted in my first post also puts the Lancasters at 35w and Semprons at 25w. Plus they appear to operate at the same voltage (K), so I don't see how TDP could be any lower unless there have been major tweaks with rev E0 to reduce heat output (look how much of a difference it made from C0 to CG, so it's possible).
Not like it really matters, though; until the product comes out, this is all speculation.
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