looks like also BH-5 will have a revival!!!

[Bluebeard]

about Winbond UTT CH-5 we can find thread here and already posted quite alot about...

BUT:

today i have been talking to our technical engineers and also took a close look on the price list and what did i see?

Speed Premium DDR450 with BH-5 in addition to the Speed Premium DDR400 CH-5.

Hope to get some samples asap to tell ya the results

[EnJoY]

Where are they getting it.

[esdee]

Now thats more good news from twinmos!

[tictac]

TwinMOS rocks

[setyotomo]

agreed

[EnJoY]

Did they just have this BH5 all along or are they making it again themselves?

[perry_78]

It'd be interesting to know! While TCCD can do high FSB, BH5 can do comparatively lower frequencies with tight timings!

Why did Winbond exit the RAM market anyway?

[Ulti]

Damn, I guess I'll have to sell my UTT then
Bring on the BH5 action

[celemine1Gig]

...Why did Winbond exit the RAM market anyway?

Perhaps only to reconquer the market with flapping flags after some absence.

[craig588]

Why did Winbond exit the RAM market anyway?

There is not enough money in it for them.

[iddqd]

TwinMOS rocks

What are you talking about, TwinMOS is foolish.

Not all BH-5 is good BH-5. In fact, there is still a lot of BH-5 chips out there on the market. However, most of the "overclocking" weeks have already been bought up, and the remaining chips are the kind that people get and whine "buhuhuhoo my BH-5 doesn't go over 220MHz halp meh!", and then wonder why. Of course it's a combination of things - sh1tty PCB, bad week, lack of any binning out of bad chips... cheap materials. And TwinMOS fits into all of those categories AFAIK. Don't know about now, but the old TwinMOS BH-5 was nothing to write home about.

[enok]

good morning BH-5! a new day as araise for u babe!

guess i will have to sell my UTT afterall...

[Nazaar]

Are we talking about new ram modules with the "classic" bh-5 chips on ?

[P_1]

are u guys pumping out new chips or using old stock?

[BeSaiD]

I'll looking forward to their arrive to Spain!

[Zeus]

Bring on the BH-5 for €39,- a stick!!

[Entity_Razer]

I just hope such things don't elevate Twinmoss into the "performace"class producersd

because as long as I know twinmoss always had decent ram for cheap prices.

I mean I won't have a problem if they up prices by say 10 dollars or something, ok this is to cover their expenses but I'd hate to see twinmoss turn into a OCZ like bussness (or corsair) forwhich you have to lay down 200euros to get some decent ram

[TEDY]

i second that entity.....it's fine few % margain ...

[WiCKeD]

It'd be interesting to know! While TCCD can do high FSB, BH5 can do comparatively lower frequencies with tight timings!

Why did Winbond exit the RAM market anyway?

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?p=990327

[Holst]

What are you talking about, TwinMOS is foolish.

Not all BH-5 is good BH-5. In fact, there is still a lot of BH-5 chips out there on the market. However, most of the "overclocking" weeks have already been bought up, and the remaining chips are the kind that people get and whine "buhuhuhoo my BH-5 doesn't go over 220MHz halp meh!", and then wonder why. Of course it's a combination of things - sh1tty PCB, bad week, lack of any binning out of bad chips... cheap materials. And TwinMOS fits into all of those categories AFAIK. Don't know about now, but the old TwinMOS BH-5 was nothing to write home about.

I dont agree with what you say about twinmos poor quality.

I have personally used many of there Bh5 sticks, and still own 4 lots of 256mb.

All 4 sticks are pretty evenly matched (topping out around 260-265mhz tight timings and 3.4v)
They have all survived 18months plus of 3.2v minimum voltage on socketA and A64.

Admittedly the twister series and some of there other products fall short of the mark, but there "budget" bh5 has been superb for me, and many others.

And it is cheap ram, my sticks all cost me £25 each!!!, 50%+ less than OCZ and corsair, and my sticks clock as good, if not better.

Obviously you dont get any guarantees with twinmos, but its so cheap you can resell it for almost what you pay if its not as good as you hoped.

[BeSaiD]

I'm with entity, too. I don't like to pay so much for memory...

[tictac]

because as long as I know twinmoss always had decent ram for cheap prices.

Agreed.

[TEDY]

of topic : tictac how was exam ?

[esdee]

alonso correct me if im wrong but i remember at hipro5's lab tha he did 270 with 2x512 twinmos BH5 a few weeks ago!

[felinusz]

What are you talking about, TwinMOS is foolish.

Not all BH-5 is good BH-5. In fact, there is still a lot of BH-5 chips out there on the market. However, most of the "overclocking" weeks have already been bought up, and the remaining chips are the kind that people get and whine "buhuhuhoo my BH-5 doesn't go over 220MHz halp meh!", and then wonder why. Of course it's a combination of things - sh1tty PCB, bad week, lack of any binning out of bad chips... cheap materials. And TwinMOS fits into all of those categories AFAIK. Don't know about now, but the old TwinMOS BH-5 was nothing to write home about.

Most BH-5 doesn't perform (waah, my BH-5 won't clear 220, as you say) untill ~3V. Most people do not have 3V of VDIMM available on their boards without modifications. BH-5 will not usually clear 220 with only ~2.85V. As for "overclocking steppings"; There are good and bad examples of almost all BH-5 steppings - some chips are weak, and some overclock really well.

I agree though, Twinmos RAM generally borders on generic quality; the PCB and speed bin make *ALL* the difference when it comes to getting good overclocking RAM.