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    Exclamation DFI NF4: Good news for all who're waiting for a chipset waterblock !!!



    Received the answer from 1 A cooling yesterday - they will mod this:



    The problem is known there and they have just started planing something what will fit - but it takes time - 1 A cooling will need 1 month or more to release it.

    So poeple keep Your WC kits - maybe running mobo first on air and later switch to water is the solution.

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    flow killer

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    Looks like a real piece of junk if you don't mind me saying!
    CTPK said it best.

    You can make a new hold-down yourself if need be, and use an existing working design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankster
    Looks like a real piece of junk if you don't mind me saying!
    CTPK said it best.

    You can make a new hold-down yourself if need be, and use an existing working design.
    The one shown is working fine on NF3 - problem is not the hold-down but the tubes and fittings will give not enough space for the GPU on DFI NF4 so a new waterblock is needed for that mobo - and 1A will release one, maybe another design, cannot say anything about it yet.

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    DFI NF4 ULTRA 0453A3 KOREA CHIPSET / BIOS 510-2FIX / FX-57 0516WPMW@3.62GHZ / 2x256 CORSAIR 3200LLPT BH-5@13x278MHZ 2-2-2-5@3.69VDIMM / MACH II GT@MOD BY BERKUT / ACTIVE COOLING FOR RAM - MOSFETS - GPU RAM / CHIPSET & GPU CORE WATERCOOLED / OCZ POWERSTEAM 600W / BUILT BY ATI X850XT@660/651 - VGPU@1.73-VDD@2.26-VDDQ@2.21 PENCIL MOD / WIN XP 2x80GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP80 SATA - RAID 0 & WIN 2K 40GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP40 IDE BENCH DRIVE / PIC


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    do they still stock this version?

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    wow, wonder if the water squeeks whne it passes through that

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    Quote Originally Posted by tictac
    do they still stock this version?
    Hi mate - the ones You show are not for chipset but for CPU and 1A have them still in stock, it's from HV-3 to latest HV-4.

    Here's a link:

    Klick here !

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    why isnt it much much higher, at least 2cm taller?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reject
    why isnt it much much higher, at least 2cm taller?
    You have to ask 1A cooling........, all I can say is that they will release one that will fit on a DFI NF4, thats all.

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    howabout elvow fittings and more flow? I can see that completely killing the water flow in the whole setup
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliette
    howabout elvow fittings and more flow? I can see that completely killing the water flow in the whole setup
    All is said in #10.
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    Binford FlowKiller 5000. Garunted to bring iwaki pumps to .1gpm in one swift motion.

    that is a decent idea, but the design is totaly useles for 1/2inch systems. And when you add the eblows its gonna be even more of a flow killer.. it will just be scary.. that thing would make a StormG5 look like a piece of 3/4inch tubing...

    not that this would kill flow any less, but her is another NB block they have on their site.. it looks like it might work

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    hmmm

    All these NB water blocks are such OVERKILL.

    Al you need is a 3/8" feed bypass loop between the pump output and pump input. No need to even go to a radiator, as all the water will eventually end up there in the main circuit. So the block can have much smaller connections and fit easily between the video cards of an SLI setup.

    Think 4" length of 3/8" copper tubing, with a U shaped loop of it brazed onto a copper plate NB size say 1/4-3/8" thick fastened to the board with using the screw holes provided. Polish the copper underside, and lap the plastic NB flat/smooth, that should provide all the cooling needs of a NB without being a full part of the main water loop. T or Y in a 3/8" tap at the pump output, and inlet so the small volume loops directly over the NB water block. The water wil mix with the rest, the main circuit goes to the raddy, so your gold.

    Extend the use of this mini bypass circuit and add Mosfet cooling blocks in the loop after the NB.

    This whole subject needs a SYSTEMS ENGINEERING approach to get the job done well. Too much hodge podge adhoc crap.
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    how about 'sanding' both the copper base & plexi top of the DD chipset one, so ot will be lower than what it is?!

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    Thanks mate.

    Saved me typing.

    I agree entirely. People never seem to consider the advantages of such a bypass loop.

    Although for the NF4 chipset the advantages of chipset watercooling (bar noise reduction) are minimal, that sort of low profile block might be usefull in other situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by uwackme
    All these NB water blocks are such OVERKILL.

    Al you need is a 3/8" feed bypass loop between the pump output and pump input. No need to even go to a radiator, as all the water will eventually end up there in the main circuit. So the block can have much smaller connections and fit easily between the video cards of an SLI setup.

    Think 4" length of 3/8" copper tubing, with a U shaped loop of it brazed onto a copper plate NB size say 1/4-3/8" thick fastened to the board with using the screw holes provided. Polish the copper underside, and lap the plastic NB flat/smooth, that should provide all the cooling needs of a NB without being a full part of the main water loop. T or Y in a 3/8" tap at the pump output, and inlet so the small volume loops directly over the NB water block. The water wil mix with the rest, the main circuit goes to the raddy, so your gold.

    Extend the use of this mini bypass circuit and add Mosfet cooling blocks in the loop after the NB.

    This whole subject needs a SYSTEMS ENGINEERING approach to get the job done well. Too much hodge podge adhoc crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uwackme
    All these NB water blocks are such OVERKILL.

    Al you need is a 3/8" feed bypass loop between the pump output and pump input. No need to even go to a radiator, as all the water will eventually end up there in the main circuit. So the block can have much smaller connections and fit easily between the video cards of an SLI setup.

    Think 4" length of 3/8" copper tubing, with a U shaped loop of it brazed onto a copper plate NB size say 1/4-3/8" thick fastened to the board with using the screw holes provided. Polish the copper underside, and lap the plastic NB flat/smooth, that should provide all the cooling needs of a NB without being a full part of the main water loop. T or Y in a 3/8" tap at the pump output, and inlet so the small volume loops directly over the NB water block. The water wil mix with the rest, the main circuit goes to the raddy, so your gold.

    Extend the use of this mini bypass circuit and add Mosfet cooling blocks in the loop after the NB.

    This whole subject needs a SYSTEMS ENGINEERING approach to get the job done well. Too much hodge podge adhoc crap.

    Very good point, though largely inconvineint in a closed setup. How do you think getting that done easily (and without being messy) in a case.mod case? I think a nice and simple elbow 10mm would be just perfect for it.
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    Neo4 sli ran flawlessly with heavy oc at maximum nb. voltage of 1.85V on stock hsf...fan at 5625rpm..It just warm and touchable..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumo
    Neo4 sli ran flawlessly with heavy oc at maximum nb. voltage of 1.85V on stock hsf...fan at 5625rpm..It just warm and touchable..
    I see - but WC has a lot more of charme.........

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    DFI NF4 ULTRA 0453A3 KOREA CHIPSET / BIOS 510-2FIX / FX-57 0516WPMW@3.62GHZ / 2x256 CORSAIR 3200LLPT BH-5@13x278MHZ 2-2-2-5@3.69VDIMM / MACH II GT@MOD BY BERKUT / ACTIVE COOLING FOR RAM - MOSFETS - GPU RAM / CHIPSET & GPU CORE WATERCOOLED / OCZ POWERSTEAM 600W / BUILT BY ATI X850XT@660/651 - VGPU@1.73-VDD@2.26-VDDQ@2.21 PENCIL MOD / WIN XP 2x80GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP80 SATA - RAID 0 & WIN 2K 40GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP40 IDE BENCH DRIVE / PIC


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    Quote Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER


    Received the answer from 1 A cooling yesterday - they will mod this:

    The problem is known there and they have just started planing something what will fit - but it takes time - 1 A cooling will need 1 month or more to release it.

    So poeple keep Your WC kits - maybe running mobo first on air and later switch to water is the solution.

    nizzzze work

    still havent got a mail back myself

    now the prob is: will i wait with buying my whole kit?
    dunno yet, only time will tell

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    Got information from 1A that ZERN GPU cooler has a hight of 26,5 mm, that one is pluged by tubes sidewards so I have to wait till board is here and then I can check if it will fit.

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    DFI NF4 ULTRA 0453A3 KOREA CHIPSET / BIOS 510-2FIX / FX-57 0516WPMW@3.62GHZ / 2x256 CORSAIR 3200LLPT BH-5@13x278MHZ 2-2-2-5@3.69VDIMM / MACH II GT@MOD BY BERKUT / ACTIVE COOLING FOR RAM - MOSFETS - GPU RAM / CHIPSET & GPU CORE WATERCOOLED / OCZ POWERSTEAM 600W / BUILT BY ATI X850XT@660/651 - VGPU@1.73-VDD@2.26-VDDQ@2.21 PENCIL MOD / WIN XP 2x80GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP80 SATA - RAID 0 & WIN 2K 40GB SAMSUNG SPINPOINT SP40 IDE BENCH DRIVE / PIC


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    you mean this?
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    Seems like such a block would be suicide for your loop. You better have a CPU block that can work well with next to no flow at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torin
    Seems like such a block would be suicide for your loop. You better have a CPU block that can work well with next to no flow at all...
    iam using alphacool XP
    iam running at 2.7ghz 1.45v actual, full load cpu temp is 43c max
    my radiator airplex 240 with 1x 12cm running at 1000rpm, room temp is 20c

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelyuen
    you mean this?
    Man - excellent photo, I meant the ZERN but own the same from the pic - and I also had the idea to put GPU into the lower slot but DFI told me that only the upper slot supplies 16x PCI-E.

    So do You run 2x ??? Would be important to know for all of us..............

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