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    If really at < $100 US it is a steal of a card IMO. Much higher than 4670 with the early drivers too.
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    So, we have 800 shaders (HD5770) and 400 shaders (HD5670) as replacement for the previous generation. Maybe they will release a replacement for the HD4770 (640 shaders) as the HD5730 or something like that?

    Although with the HD5770 at ~$160 and the HD5750 at ~$140 there's no real reason to add another card for a potential ~$120 segment and saturate the production...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontos View Post
    So, we have 800 shaders (HD5770) and 400 shaders (HD5670) as replacement for the previous generation. Maybe they will release a replacement for the HD4770 (640 shaders) as the HD5730 or something like that?

    Although with the HD5770 at ~$160 and the HD5750 at ~$140 there's no real reason to add another card for a potential ~$120 segment and saturate the production...
    The HD5770 and HD5750 are the replacements for the HD4770 and HD4750.
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    Looks like it runs a little too hot for HTPC usage using the std cooler
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    well, its the cheapest card that can bitstream hd audio, and it is fairly energy efficient. a good htpc card.
    for gaming, its hard to top the $100 4850's that are floating around. those basically thrash anything that cost remotely the same amount.
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    Hmmm... Beastly little card. A little bigger then I expected it would be... but still not too shabby.
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    Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?
    Gddr3 probably is cheaper, but GDDR3 on this card would cause it to be bandwidth limited.
    Maybe GDDR5 memory that can reach 4GHz is not more expensive than the GDDR5 in HD4770 cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?
    Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

    Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.
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    Lets see does that card OC well as my HD4670, 1025/1030

    If it does, DAAAAAAMN
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    Not sure what Ati is trying to do here , this thing has more bandwidth then 4770 while having less SP's? 128 bus plus 4000 mhz gddr .Not a big deal just strange , have gddr5 have gotten cheaper then gddr3 ?
    They're trying to fill out their lineup of 5xx0 cards. It's what they did with the 4xx0 series; everything from the 4870x2 down to the 4350. Things might look strange compared to the 4000 series, but compared to other cards in the 5000 series it shows a typical trend going from high performance to entry level (or will). I imagine we won't see GDDR3 except maybe on the 5300 and 5400 series.
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    Less TMUs than the 4670? I wonder how they'll compare, maybe I'll replace mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

    Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.
    As far as i know gddr5 uses less voltage and thus less power .


    I did found something interesting tho ,"Joe Macri is Director of Technology at AMD… and in parallel is the president of the JEDEC committee which is involved in defining DRAM memory standards." not sure if still the case , but it would give them an advantage and influence as to where the gddr5 prices will go plus i imagine buying more dgrr5 in bulk does reduce price enough to make gddr3 redundant .As far as gddr3 bottle necking the card i highly doubt , gddr5 will provide higher bandwidth and lower latencies but performance impact will be minimal .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    As far as i know gddr5 uses less voltage and thus less power .


    I did found something interesting tho ,"Joe Macri is Director of Technology at AMD… and in parallel is the president of the JEDEC committee which is involved in defining DRAM memory standards." not sure if still the case , but it would give them an advantage and influence as to where the gddr5 prices will go plus i imagine buying more dgrr5 in bulk does reduce price enough to make gddr3 redundant .As far as gddr3 bottle necking the card i highly doubt , gddr5 will provide higher bandwidth and lower latencies but performance impact will be minimal .
    1. Although less voltage is used you have ~2X the clock speeds. In an ideal condition voltage power scaling is exponential while clock power scaling is linear. So it's not as clear cut yet, especially on desktop, but mobile wise AMD is offering GDDR3 GPUs with higher clocks relative to the GDDR5 ones at the same TDP.

    2. Performance impact should be large enough on a 128-bit bus, see GT240's 2 variants. Brutal. It gets even sweeter on a 64-bit bus where clocks/voltage are both low and GDDR5/3 only accounts to ~2W difference (5470)
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    Give us a good fanless variant with GDDR5, and I'm sold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Not exactly yet, but enough cheap (1.3-1.5x cost I'd say) that ATI can make their whole range of GPUs use GDDR5.

    Envy 15's 5830 uses GDDR3, but again it's under TDP reasons instead.
    I guess I must have misread AMD's slides concerning the launch of their Mobility Radeon 5000 series cards, but I thought their GDDR5 models had a lower TDP than the DDR3. Not entirely sure about GDDR3 though.

    You also have to remember that the currently available GDDR5 memory is not comparable to the first iterations we had in for example the 4870 and future versions may be even better from a power consumption perspective. That's partially because of improvements to manufacturing, but mainly because they have been making slight changes to how it operates and will continue to do so in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0lid View Post
    Lets see does that card OC well as my HD4670, 1025/1030

    If it does, DAAAAAAMN
    doubt it with the cheapass standard cooler. Despite its low power consumption being a hothead, obviously the standard cooling solution sucks.
    Maybe with a vaporX edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladerash View Post
    doubt it with the cheapass standard cooler. Despite its low power consumption being a hothead, obviously the standard cooling solution sucks.
    Maybe with a vaporX edition.
    wasn't talking about stock cooler
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    Looks like the article was removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Looks like the article was removed.
    Yep.

    I'm looking for a new HTCP card, this should be perfect with a decent cooler.

    For those who read the article, I suppose the 5670 has native HDMI out, right?
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    All new ATI cards have native HDMI out.

    Makes me wonder if the review took the price of the card versus the HD 5750 into consideration if they gave it such a positive review.

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    Do these lower cards still have Eyefinity? Damn, I wanted to read that review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    All new ATI cards have native HDMI out.

    Makes me wonder if the review took the price of the card versus the HD 5750 into consideration if they gave it such a positive review.
    Thanks for the info. It's been a while since I went shopping for a low-end card so I wasn't sure.

    I think this VGA doesn't make any sense from a pure 3D performance standpoint so any sort of comparison with a 5750 is kinda pointless, IMHO. I mean, a 4850 (wich is comparable to a 5750) sells for almost free today and I'm sure it almost doubles 5670's performance in games.
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