Intel i5-750 actually a bad cpu for overclocking? (contains sarcasm)

[gallag]

According to scientia from AMDZone it is rubbish, In-fact He is having a hard time getting it to 2.9ghz held to the same standards as his AMD cpus.

http://scientiasblog.blogspot.com/ Read and laugh.

So there you have it, What many have believed to be a great cpu for overclocking is actually pants, Its not like scientia from the AMDZone is biased or anything.

[Vinas]

Well, he had a good article until the "heat" argument about the stock coolers. Was he like putting his hand by the cooler to "measure" the heat output???

Thanks for sharing, it was pretty humorous. Someone should comment and tell him he needs to compare a q9550 or something, not the i5.

[Splave]

ahh yes the good old "yeah the HS doesnt even get warm" routine
A heatsink draws heat away from the processor. One that is performing poorly will be cool.

[gurusan]

What a fool

[ajaidev]

yep i had a similar problem with my i5 750 but before ppl start flaming me it was around 3.8ghz and not 2.9ghz. May be he has a bad sample a very very bad sample lol....

I like the i5 750 a lot, much more than the hot stupid 860 and only rate Intel's i7 920 more....

[-n7-]

AHahaaa

[gallag]

He has updated and has conclusively proved with a screen shoot, the i5-750 to be the worst overclocker ever, His wisdom shows that you actually have to underclock the cpu to be safe.

http://scientiasblog.blogspot.com/20...inal-with.html

[gallag]

Can anyone else put there 750 to the same settings i.e 1.18v 2.66 with turbo off and see if they record lower temps than 72.7?

[Dahmer]

psh, using stock cooler....

[cky2k6]

somebody should remind him that 72.7 is a tcase temp, and cpu will not throttle until around 100c...

[wuttz]

you're all more than welcome to productively, and respectfully discuss at our thread: http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...172790#p172790

thank you.

[tool_462]

Here is the best part:
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...906be4#p172785

http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=444

He says the Intel chip is "throttling" in OCCT Linpack (obviously just lowering usage between passes...) but oh no, check this out!

Look at the X3 720 throttling every 3 minutes

[kg4icg]

you're all more than welcome to productively, and respectfully discuss at our thread: http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...172790#p172790

thank you.

1 of the problems is, that he is trying to overclock it like you do a AMD processor and that won't work. When you raise the bclk, you also raise the mem speed so you have to adjust both. That is why his overclocks are failing. The processor isn't throttling in OCCT. That is the program resetting itself after runs.

[wuttz]

1 of the problems is, that he is trying to overclock it like you do a AMD processor and that won't work. When you raise the bclk, you also raise the mem speed so you have to adjust both. That is why his overclocks are failing. The processor isn't throttling in OCCT. That is the program resetting itself after runs.

great tip, will offer it to him and see how the set-up does.

[SuperFly03]

you're all more than welcome to productively, and respectfully discuss at our thread: http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...172790#p172790

thank you.

What do you think I tried to do?

Yeah he wasn't having any of this "logic" crap.

[easycheese]

What do you think I tried to do?

Yeah he wasn't having any of this "logic" crap.

Logic is illogical to scientia evidently.....

[SuperFly03]

Logic is illogical to scientia evidently.....

It's AMDZone... everything logical is illogical and everything fast is slow and hot is cold... wait did Issac newton just turn over in his grave?

[justin.kerr]

Learn something new every day..
So let me get this straight, when I take the load off the CPU, the load on the CPU goes down.. and consequently the temps?. This just can't be right, it has to be the evil Intel companies throttling back my chip..... Holy Jebus Crackers.
It is like a virgin playing with a vagina, he has no idea what to do with it, and the more he looks at it the more confused and frustrated he gets.

[-=DVS=-]

Its not the chip but the user who is bad overclocker

[tool_462]

Here is the best part:
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...906be4#p172785

http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=444

He says the Intel chip is "throttling" in OCCT Linpack (obviously just lowering usage between passes...) but oh no, check this out!

Look at the X3 720 throttling every 3 minutes

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...22h50-CPU1.png

I did read some of the comments over at xtreme. I have to say though that Tool is not exactly the brightest crayon in the box.

For what its worth, he changed the original image I linked to an image of an OCCT run completely different than the original. Originally he had an image of the i5-750 just completing passes every 45 seconds or so

Here is what he says about the old screenie:

Here you can see the very distinctive thermal throttling at roughly 45 second intervals.

Look at the new one, its usage drops every 2 minutes or so

Scientia just got "found out" by a lowly dull crayon

[gallag]

you're all more than welcome to productively, and respectfully discuss at our thread: http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...172790#p172790

thank you.

But that is the problem, If you do not believe that AMD wins at everything and that Intel = bad then you are not welcome in the Zone because it is full of irrational fanboys who have ganged together to at least fool each other that they are right, Just look at scientas "tests" on a intel cpu, Shock, He is getting the worse results ever???? How can this be???

Just look at your post alerting him to this thread

"""fyi sci, it looks like you've made it into the bigtime! =)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=240180

yeah i wouldn't be surprised how crappy the i5 750 is, very likely its from the lowest binned die from core i7 production. see how easy the thermal sensor broke?

for the same price, you have had less of a headache and a better overclock on the phenom ii."""

Do you see, You are making it look that the i5-750 is a bad cpu, Heck I think you guys actually do think that but in the real world it is faster that all AMD cpus at most things, Dont get me wrong it is pretty much = to AMD'S top of the line but you guys still like to make out that it is crap.

You guys are the laughing stock of the community but I fear because you have a wee click who agree with each other you feel the rest of the world has it wrong. Sad.

[gallag]

For what its worth, he changed the original image I linked to an image of an OCCT run completely different than the original. Originally he had an image of the i5-750 just completing passes every 45 seconds or so

Here is what he says about the old screenie:

Look at the new one, its usage drops every 2 minutes or so

Scientia just got "found out" by a lowly dull crayon

He is crazier than a whole sack of monkeys flinging poo, He tries to come across as being scientific in his methods but you would think he would ask "why are my results so bad compared to the rest of the world?" But I dont think that anyone would believe that his intentions were anything other than making intel look bad, I call Shenanigans. Seriously, It would be as bad as a known Intel fanboy claiming similar results with a ph2-965, Obvious BS.

[gurusan]

obvious way to see if it's throttling is to log CPU frequency

[dasickninja]

He's using big words and technical terms to mask the fact that he's talking out of his ass and has no idea how to overclock. Well done AMDZone.

[justin.kerr]

I don't know, I am kinda starting to like his thinking, like this gem, and I quote "In order to re-establish the thermal profile I decided to unplug the CPU cooling fan. This isn't quite as bad as it sounds because the rear and top fans do provide secondary airflow because of the vertical alignment of the cooling fins"

next he will advise removing the water from my system, and having the water pumps pump air through the lines, and with the existing water vapor, and the 2 bar of pressure that the pump can create, will cause an air to water vapor exchange that will effectively cool the CPU better..