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11-14-2009, 10:21 AM
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Intel's Core i5 32nm Holiday Market Assault
According to latest rumors on Maximum PC, Intel is ready to launch 32nm processors for Core i5 platform this holiday season. Here is one user's rough guesses at msrp.
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pentium G6950 @ 2.8 GHz 3 MB L3 no turbo boost 2 cores/2 threads, -about $85, 72 watt TDP
core i3 530 @ 2.93 GHz 4MB L3 no turbo boost 2 cores/4 threads, -about $120, 72 watt TDP
core i3 540 @ 3.06 GHz 4MB L3 no turbo boost 2 cores/4 threads, -about $140, 72 watt TDP
core i5 650 @ 3.2 GHz 4MB L3 w/turbo 2 cores/4 threads, -about $170, 72 watt TDP
core i5 660 @ 3.33 GHz 4MB L3 w/turbo 2 cores/4 threads, -about $190, 72 watt TDP
core i5 670 @ 3.46 GHz 4MB L3 w/turbo 2 cores/4 threads, -about $270, 72 watt TDP
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Intel is rumoured to be excited about these chips as they'll be packing enough punch to take on C2Qs in raw processing power in many applications. To be frank, I expect nothing less than just that, but also expect some serious price reductions for s775. Good times for all consumers I guess.
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...80&postcount=1
Last edited by governor; 11-14-2009 at 10:24 AM.
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11-14-2009, 10:27 AM
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These better OC as good/better then 8600's. If they do intel will have a great product on their hands
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11-14-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi
These better OC as good/better then 8600's. If they do intel will have a great product on their hands
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Apparently, they do - I hear most benchmarking records will fall come January. That 2.8GHZ for $85 sure will be the new budget/gamers' choice cpu.
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11-14-2009, 10:46 AM
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TDP seems awful high...
Anyway, nice to see some decent replacements for the E8x00 series.
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11-14-2009, 10:56 AM
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Wow I didnt realise they support hyper threading thats sick imagine if these clock 6.8 gigs 32m capable with the fast memory speeds on I5.
Lets wait and see.
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11-14-2009, 11:04 AM
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So they went from 8mb to 4mb?
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11-14-2009, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
So they went from 8mb to 4mb?
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4 cores -> 2 cores, what did u expect? Hopefully this won't limit performance too much.
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11-14-2009, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzfest05
if these clock 6.8 gigs
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they won't - 32nm 1156 chips are different from 32nm 1366 chips and tend to clock much worse subzero - really hope that i am wrong tho
but they will sure be nice for daily users, no doubt
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11-14-2009, 12:22 PM
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There is no IMC in the CPU die. It's in the IGP (GMCH) die which is next to CPU on the PCB. QPI is functioning as classic FSB. So the IGP part can't power down even you don't use the IGP at all (for example in P55 boards). I think that this is the reason of the relatively high TDP.
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11-14-2009, 12:24 PM
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Why does the 660 and the 670 have such a massive price difference? It's 80 dollars more expensive 
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11-14-2009, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lkiller123
Why does the 660 and the 670 have such a massive price difference? It's 80 dollars more expensive |
Yeah 80$ for 130mhz 
But i5 650 will be good budget cpu, nice !
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11-14-2009, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi
These better OC as good/better then 8600's. If they do intel will have a great product on their hands
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This cracks me up every time someone says it. Because intel only survives because of the OC community, LOL...
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11-14-2009, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
4 cores -> 2 cores, what did u expect? Hopefully this won't limit performance too much.
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well I'm curious to see how a 660 does against a e8600.
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11-14-2009, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lkiller123
Why does the 660 and the 670 have such a massive price difference? It's 80 dollars more expensive |
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Originally Posted by n!Cola
Yeah 80$ for 130mhz |
Seen the price of the I7 950 Vs the 920? or the 975 Vs the 950? :p $80 for an extra x1 in the multi dept is GOOD 
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11-14-2009, 01:34 PM
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TDP does include built in gfx/imc but I thought clarkdale/arrandale graphics are switchable and so if we have dedicated gfx, built in gfx should be able to switch off. Overall platform TDP will be lower than core 2 duo and it will destroy core 2 duo in benchmarks.
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11-14-2009, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K404
Seen the price of the I7 950 Vs the 920? or the 975 Vs the 950? :p $80 for an extra x1 in the multi dept is GOOD |
But 650 and 660 is only a $20 difference
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11-14-2009, 02:37 PM
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I don't see much point in these... Enthusiasts will get Gulftown and budget is well covered by s775...
I mean, okay, they are great for PI benching, but not like they made these chips for this purpose.
Just a money sink for those people who have no idea what Core 2 is capable of.
Last edited by zalbard; 11-14-2009 at 02:43 PM.
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11-14-2009, 03:01 PM
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Ugh... hard decision: Lynnfield 45nm 2.66Ghz 4C/4T vs. Clarkdale 32nm 3.33Ghz 2C/4T
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11-14-2009, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
I don't see much point in these... Enthusiasts will get Gulftown and budget is well covered by s775...
I mean, okay, they are great for PI benching, but not like they made these chips for this purpose.
Just a money sink for those people who have no idea what Core 2 is capable of.
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I'd rather have better performance/watt and lower idle power consumption with these chips.
I don't need the performance of Gulftown... most compute-intensive workloads are moving to the GPU anyway.
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11-14-2009, 03:09 PM
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Lynfield is more,more better performance....i3/i5 2cores/4T has performance similar as lower clocks Q8000 or Athlon x4 620 or Athlon X3 at higher clocks.
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11-14-2009, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firestrider
I'd rather have better performance/watt and lower idle power consumption with these chips.
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Because 2-5W less in idle comparing to Core 2 are going to make a dramatic difference for you in your desktop... Oh wait, they will not.
And performance... Core 2 Quad will demolish these in anything which is remotely multi threaded.
Seriously, if you already have Core 2 or better, there is not much point to get these.
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11-14-2009, 03:17 PM
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What if these 32nm dual cores clocks to 5GHz quite easily on air or 4.6 ~ 4.8GHz possible for daily use?  I wouldn't complain for that price?
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11-14-2009, 03:41 PM
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And hopefully 7ghz under LN2
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Originally Posted by zalbard
Because 2-5W less in idle comparing to Core 2 are going to make a dramatic difference for you in your desktop... Oh wait, they will not.
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The difference is bigger than that for sure, its 32nm vs 45nm, it's 4mb vs 6mb, and that stupid IGP has to be turned off.
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11-14-2009, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Because 2-5W less in idle comparing to Core 2 are going to make a dramatic difference for you in your desktop... Oh wait, they will not.
And performance... Core 2 Quad will demolish these in anything which is remotely multi threaded.
Seriously, if you already have Core 2 or better, there is not much point to get these.
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More like 15-20 watts difference at idle between C2Q + P45 and Lynnfield + P55.
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11-14-2009, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
I don't see much point in these... Enthusiasts will get Gulftown and budget is well covered by s775...
I mean, okay, they are great for PI benching, but not like they made these chips for this purpose.
Just a money sink for those people who have no idea what Core 2 is capable of.
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These chips will truly shine for notebook use. They won't be a dramatic improvement for desktop use, at least not for us IMHO.
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