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Old 05-23-2009, 10:01 AM   #1
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Cool AMD PHII X4 955BE ES + HD4870X2 CFX 36k 3D06 46k 3d05

First off I'd like to thank AMD for being great hosts. You guys knocked this one out of the park. Simon Solotko and Peter Hardman were great and Aaron Schradin's LHe pot was insane. Huge props to Brian and Vince, you two are some stellar benchers

Over the three days I focused mainly on 3D05/3D06. Compared to the CPUs that Vince and Brian were using, mine was relatively tame. I worked for two days with the Gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P to get my northbridge above 4GHz but to no avail. In the last 4 hours of benching on Friday I switched over to the Asus M4A79T-Deluxe that Vince had prepared for LHe and that board screamed. I've got a mix of results below.



AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE ES, Gigabyte 790FXT-UD5P, Corsair Dominator DDR3-1800C7 D9GTR, Corsair HX1000, HD 4870x2 CFX

3D03 143678 CFX 800/950



3D05 46151 CFX 800/950



3D06 35615 CFX 800/950



3D06 31109 Single 800/950



CPU-Z @ 6547MHz



SPi 1M @ 6490 10.812s



SPi 32M @ 6090 11:54.563



All these results were terrible due to the low NB and I was still testing the CPU.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE ES, Asus M4A79T-Deluxe K|ngp|n prep edition, Corsair Dominator GT DDR3-1866C7 Elpida HyperIC, Corsair HX1000, HD 4870x2 CFX

3D05 46574 CFX 800/950



3D06 36100 CFX 800/950



I ran out of time here, had to pack up quickly and go catch my flight













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Old 05-23-2009, 10:08 AM   #2
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Awesome runs man! Shame you wasted that much time on that gigabutt mobo but it seems you made up well with the Asus board!

Do you have more pics?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:19 AM   #4
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nice man....really nice scores

how come you ran your GPU cores at 800?

could they not do more?

so this was LN2 only?
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:23 AM   #5
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Awesome runs man! Shame you wasted that much time on that gigabutt mobo but it seems you made up well with the Asus board!

Do you have more pics?
no more pictures. I was too busy tearing apart motherboards

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nice man....really nice scores

how come you ran your GPU cores at 800?

could they not do more?

so this was LN2 only?
Vince was the only one on LHe. My GPUs do 860/950 all day long but I had troubles with the fans dropping to 20% after CPU1 and crashing out so I just used CCC and set to 800/950. Waiting on a decent 955 so I can bench at home with the GPUs on -40C alcohol
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now i'm testing my 955 on air
then i'll go to ln2 soon

but i've 3 4890 not 2 4870x2
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Sounds like you had a great time with good people.
Props to AMD for this one!
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Nice run Gom. Shame you been having such bad luck with boards. waching all this fun you guys had has got me calling all over the state trying to score some LHe wich is proving to be dificult not to mention the $$$!
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OMG i want that thing on my back yard. jeezz thanks mate im definitely gonna have wet dreams tonight
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Glad you made up with the ASUS board and pulled ahead at the very end gom. Especially after watching you struggle and try at least 3 different setups with the UD5P.

Now that I have 2 of the gigabyte boards I think I'm gonna have to swap one for that ASUS board. Looks to do better with the chips altogether.
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Nothing wrong with the board Slappa, just requires a little more work and time on the board to learn its tricks. Gomeler has had maybe 4-5 days max on the board, I'm sure he will figure out its secrets soon enough. We have had the NB up to 4700 on the gigabyte.....4600 is the max we have had the asus.....I had the NB at 4300 at this event, I ran out of multis and didn't feel like dropping ram divider to crank HT as the system was dialed in.

For reference speed is not always relative to performance.....4300 NB on one board can be equal to or greater to 4500 on another board..........with the f3L bios the MRL is pulled in very very tight, asus is known to "loosen" things up to achieve higher "speeds"
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1) Normal ES: Available to partners and press before the product actually launches. These are usually close to retail parts, maybe one stepping/node before retails. From my experience (I've had access to AMD & Intel ES CPUs before the official launch around 8 years) normal ES CPUs are actually usually worse than retails because manufacturing process develops all the time and retails keep getting better. Every Phenom II press sample (not even marked as ES but couple weeks earlier than retail parts) I've tested so far have been worse than normal retails.

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now i'm testing my 955 on air
then i'll go to ln2 soon

but i've 3 4890 not 2 4870x2
3 HD4890 will be impressive. Can't wait to see your results

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Nice run Gom. Shame you been having such bad luck with boards. waching all this fun you guys had has got me calling all over the state trying to score some LHe wich is proving to be dificult not to mention the $$$!
Thanks man. LHe honestly is too expensive to use even for extreme benching. It was a lot of fun to watch, but I'd rather stick with LN2 and be more cost efficient. I think the LHe bill for the three days was around $5k

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OMG i want that thing on my back yard. jeezz thanks mate im definitely gonna have wet dreams tonight
Me too! I'd settle with a smaller one, that one holds 900 gallons. I'll take a 200 gallon tank to start.

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Glad you made up with the ASUS board and pulled ahead at the very end gom. Especially after watching you struggle and try at least 3 different setups with the UD5P.

Now that I have 2 of the gigabyte boards I think I'm gonna have to swap one for that ASUS board. Looks to do better with the chips altogether.
Thanks for the help piecing together that last 790FXT-UD5P. I really wish I had swapped boards much earlier, the ASUS BIOS/board was just slightly more mature and resulted in slightly better performance.

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Nothing wrong with the board Slappa, just requires a little more work and time on the board to learn its tricks. Gomeler has had maybe 4-5 days max on the board, I'm sure he will figure out its secrets soon enough. We have had the NB up to 4700 on the gigabyte.....4600 is the max we have had the asus.....
I've been benching with that board for a while actually. You are the only person I know that has been pushing NB on that board. Even Peter Hardman was stumped by it. The Asus M4A79T-Deluxe loves my Elpida though, so I went to Fry's today and picked one up for testing. Bought 2 4870x2 waterblocks also, going to put the cards on chilled water next week with a retail CPU
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For reference NB clocks best when memory is stable and IMC is happy.....IIRC you were using rear slots....the gigabyte works best with elpida in front slots Or at least thats what my testing has yielded. Give it a shot. Check out the gigabyte thread, Msimax is working with elpidas atm Not the only person, Msimax has been pushing the NB as well....he's also worked closely with me so knows most of the tricks.
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For reference NB clocks best when memory is stable and IMC is happy.....IIRC you were using rear slots....the gigabyte works best with elpida in front slots Or at least thats what my testing has yielded. Give it a shot. Check out the gigabyte thread, Msimax is working with elpidas atm
I was using D9GTR like you and copied your settings. I'll stick with the M4A79T-Deluxe for right now
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should look a whole lot better with the GPUs on chilled water, can't wait to see the results.
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I was using D9GTR like you and copied your settings. I'll stick with the M4A79T-Deluxe for right now
True but we forgot to take one thing into consideration.....I was using 2 sticks binned from 6 sticks total, and had them Id'd right down to which slots they needed to be installed in for max clocks...........they probably needed to be toned down a tad to say 1660-1680, the 1720 I was running was so close to the edge of stability its not funny.

This was msi's chip on the gigabyte.

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Nothing wrong with the board Slappa, just requires a little more work and time on the board to learn its tricks. Gomeler has had maybe 4-5 days max on the board, I'm sure he will figure out its secrets soon enough. We have had the NB up to 4700 on the gigabyte.....4600 is the max we have had the asus.....I had the NB at 4300 at this event, I ran out of multis and didn't feel like dropping ram divider to crank HT as the system was dialed in.

For reference speed is not always relative to performance.....4300 NB on one board can be equal to or greater to 4500 on another board..........with the f3L bios the MRL is pulled in very very tight, asus is known to "loosen" things up to achieve higher "speeds"
Not that there is anything wrong with the board, but it is a drag to work with out of the box. Of course you spent countless nights figuring out tweaks for this board. I think I'm going to have to do the same when I get home. I just don't think my board likes my G.Skill Pi set that I have in there.

Anyone know what chips are in the G.Skill 1333MHz 7-7-7-18 1.6v set? They are actually pretty good OCers, mine go up to 1600MHz 1.6-1.65V @ 7-7-7-18 and am sure I can push them further.

and @ Gomeler

No problem. I just watched your troubles for too long and felt I needed to help get you up and running faster with that last one.
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3 HD4890 will be impressive. Can't wait to see your results
i think i'll bench on 2nd june(celebretion of repubblic here in italy, so i'm not going to school) and 6-7-8nd june

i've 50l of ln2


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Congrats on your scores [XC] gomeler!

Following your footsteps I will attempt to bench upside down next time Sick idea!

Also that LN2 tank would look perfect in my garden! A bit of engineering and one would make nice 24/7 cooling solution for Phenom II
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