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    GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 thread...

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    Can someone conclude with me that this is a GTX 280 for $279>?

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    It does seem to basically be like a gtx280 in performance but those are overclocked models.

    Which doesn't give a fair comparison entirely, I can't see how giving it a few more shader processors can make it as fast as the gtx280...

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    No gtx280 has 240 shader processors, 512bit memory bus and the at time highest speed binned Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N3C 0.8ns ( possibly -N2C ) CAS 11 memory ics. this gtx260 has an extra ROP unit activated so that makes 9 out of 10, where as the original unit has 8 out of 10 activated. there is also the 448bit memory bus which hasn't changed and nor has the actual clocks or memory ic's. GTX260 should either use Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N2C or Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C 0.8ns CAS11 memory ICs.

    this is simply a higher binned gpu chip that had 9 out of 10 good ROP units.

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    even if it is OC version or not the card has shown that has (so far) alot of potencial to reach the GTX 280 for less money...

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    Yes but in some of those reviews it shows the gtx260 216 sp version holding with the gtx280 only slower by like 2 or 3 frames. I think some of these must be off because of that. Specially since some place the 4870 faster then 4870x2 at times.

    Also is the gtx260 standard going to be just as good?....since I heard overclocking ability suffers with more clusters. And a gtx260 could overclock further then a gtx280 makeing them close in performance even overclocked.

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    Great card for the price especially the EVGA OC'ed card, I'd be an Nv fanboy too if they (evga) were available here. Imagine the prices a few weeks after 4850X2 is released

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    My next upgrade will either be to this card, or to a 4870 1GB model.

    Leaning more towards the 4870 1GB though, as it seems to be nearly as fast as the GTX 280, but with DX 10.1 capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveman787 View Post
    Yes but in some of those reviews it shows the gtx260 216 sp version holding with the gtx280 only slower by like 2 or 3 frames. I think some of these must be off because of that. Specially since some place the 4870 faster then 4870x2 at times.

    Also is the gtx260 standard going to be just as good?....since I heard overclocking ability suffers with more clusters. And a gtx260 could overclock further then a gtx280 makeing them close in performance even overclocked.
    Overclocking ability does suffer, this version with added ROP unit will overclock worse than the current 260. Expect lower shader/rop clocks than present. Process hasn't changed and nor has design, they just activated the extra unit via laser on dies with one less failed unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyakame View Post
    Overclocking ability does suffer, this version with added ROP unit will overclock worse than the current 260. Expect lower shader/rop clocks than present. Process hasn't changed and nor has design, they just activated the extra unit via laser on dies with one less failed unit.
    So in Max OC comparison the older 260 will probably be faster than the new 260 or just about the same because of the additional ROP?

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    now lets see an upgraded GTX280...
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    The way I see it is the more shader clusters the lower the overclock headroom.

    Which means a normal gtx260 can reach 750 approx. and a gtx280 can usually reach about 700. So the they'll all have similar performance at max overclock and that means the gtx260 216sp will probably overclock to 720-730 approx.

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    Looks like the 4870 is still the 8xAA champ: Link1 & Link2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    now lets see an upgraded GTX280...
    Impossible. GTX280 has full functional chip.
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    Is this true, I read from the HardOCP review that the new GTX260 had a die shrink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    Impossible. GTX280 has full functional chip.
    I didn't mean it has to be by using the current GPU, If the 280 card had already faster shaders (talking 1600mhz region) I might want to upgrade it... How they achieve it, I don't care... but it prolly will be out of my step up period lol...
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    Certainly looks promising. Seems they have finally come up with a card to try and compete with the 4870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedMoMegaHurtZ View Post
    done thanks mate

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    Definitely the OCed parts can outpace the 4870. But so can an oced 4870

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyakame View Post
    No gtx280 has 240 shader processors, 512bit memory bus and the at time highest speed binned Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N3C 0.8ns ( possibly -N2C ) CAS 11 memory ics. this gtx260 has an extra ROP unit activated so that makes 9 out of 10, where as the original unit has 8 out of 10 activated. there is also the 448bit memory bus which hasn't changed and nor has the actual clocks or memory ic's. GTX260 should either use Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N2C or Hynix H5RS5223CFR-N0C 0.8ns CAS11 memory ICs.

    this is simply a higher binned gpu chip that had 9 out of 10 good ROP units.
    Replace the acronym "ROP" in the quoted post with "SP clusters" and the post makes sense. The updated GTX260 has 28 ROPs just like the original GTX260, the novelty in the updated card is the additional (9th) enabled shader processor cluster, the original has 8 enabled SP clusters.
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    The name is funny, GeForce GTX 260 Core 216. Looks like they are trying to fly on Intels coat tails. You have got the love those PR bunnies. Intel Core=Nvidia Core=Epic Fail. Nice try though, just wish they would try something original, how about GTX270
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    What i really love are the idle power consumption values for the x2 card... Jesus Christ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulhamm View Post
    Nice try though, just wish they would try something original, how about GTX270
    Give it a new name and you get less mistaken sales of the older 260 cards.

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    Some more links Blacky :

    Pcgameshardware.com

    hardocp.com

    Hexus.net

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    the overclock3d link is for a gtx 280 xxx there Leeghoofd....but may be good for comparison.

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