**Unified** DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R-M2RS / Phenom /Data Base Thread**

Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 06:38 AM

Bios's - Drivers - Manuals - Specifications.

Official Bios Releases:

Date Code: 2008/1/30
R7LD130_u.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1、Improved DRAM compatibility for OC function.
2、Add DDR2-1066 MCT timing Select.

Remark :This new update BIOS(2008/01/30) comes with some new features such as “DDR Timing Mode”, therefore the existing CMOS Reloaded setting stored on your motherboard cannot apply to this new update BIOS. Users will need to manually set your overclock setting to this update BIOS and save those setting in CMOS Reloaded to work with this new update BIOS.

2008/1/30 BIOS updates ATI RAID ROM to version 3.1540.21., since the RAID ROM is changed in this 12/11 Beta BIOS, please download the new RAID Driver790FX_RAID_F6.ZIP , and use this new version instead of the previous version on Driver CD.

Date Code: 2008/03/07
R7LD307.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
Update ATI RAID ROM to 3.0.1540.30

Date Code 2008/04/16
R7LD416.zip

Major Reasons of Change:
1.Increase CPU voltage control step by step.
2.Add CPU Voltage Item help string.
3. Fixed “CPU Clock Ratio” item issue for PHENOM CPU.
4. Fixed smoe CPU temperature show error.

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Beta Bios Releases:

The BIOS in this section are Beta and still under evaluation. Please be advised that warranty will be voided for any damages caused by these BIOS on your system and DFI is not liable for such damages.

The Beta's are here for reference and maybe added to or removed based on what is currently on DFI's Global Web Site.

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Date Code: 2008/04/15
R7LD415.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed “CPU Clock Ratio” item issue for PHENOM CPU.
2. Fixed some CPU temperature show error.
3. Added cpu OV warning message.

Date Code: 2008/04/16
R7LD416.zip
Major Reasons of Change:
1.Increase CPU voltage control step by step.
2.Add CPU Voltage Item help string.

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Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 06:43 AM

Bios's - Drivers - Manuals - Specifications.

Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 06:44 AM

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Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 06:45 AM

Just to prove my theory that Phenom can overclock with Low Voltage and requires a light and artful Approach, heres a 4hr Prime Run.

DFI LANPARTY UT 790FX-M2R (BIOS 4/15/2008 "Beta")

AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition "B3"

Tuniq Tower 120

OCZ Reaper HPC (PC2-8500) 5-5-5-18 2X2GB

POWERCOLOR AX3870 X2 CROSSFIRE CATALYST 8.3

Auzentech XPlosion

Areca 1231 ML {Intel IOP 341} ~ 6 ~ 250gb Hitachi Sata II Raid 6 ~2~WD 74gb Raptors ~ Raid 0 ~

Plextor 750A

SilverStone OP1000

CM Stacker STC-T01

Code:

>HT Link Control:
 
HT Link Width......................... - 16 bit
HT Frequency.......................... - 2GHZ MHz
IH Flow Control Mode.................. - Disabled
HT Link Tristate...................... - Disabled
2x LCLK Mode.......................... - Disabled
Unit Id Clumping...................... - Disabled
 
>CPU Feature:
 
CPU DID.............................. - 1
CPU FID.............................. - 0C
CPU-NB DID........................... - 1
CPU-NB FID........................... - 06
AMD CPU stepping..................... - P0

>DRAM Configuration:

MCT Memory Timing.................... - Manual
2T Mode.............................. - Auto
Cas Latency Time..................... - 5
Pre Charge Delay (tRAS).............. - 18
DRAM RAS# Precharge.................. - 5
DRAN RAS# to CAS# Delay.............. - 5
Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD).............. - Auto
TRC.................................. - 23T
TRTP................................. - Auto
Write Recovery (TWR)................. - Auto
Write-Read Command (TWTR)............ - Auto
TRFC0................................ - 195ns
TRFC1................................ - 195ns
TRFC2................................ - 195ns
TRFC3................................ - 195ns
Trdrd................................ - Auto
TrwtT0............................... - Auto
Twrrd................................ - Auto
Twrwr................................ - Auto
CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay................ - Enabled
Bank Swizzle Mode.................... - Enabled
Auto Tweak Performance............... - Enabled
Optimal Performance Mode............. - Enabled

>ODC Control Mode:

DRAM Drivers Weak Mode.............. - Normal
Output Drivers Comp................. - Normal
>Channel A:
CPU On-die Termination.............. - 300 ohms +/- 20%
DQS Drive Strength.................. - 1.00x
Data Drive Strength................. - 1.00x
MEMCLK Drive Strength............... - 1.00x
Addr/Cmd Drive Strength............. - 1.50x
CS/ODT Drive Strength............... - 1.50x
CKE Drive Strenght.................. - 1.50x
>Channel B:
CPU On-die Termination.............. - 300 ohms +/- 20%
DQS Drive Strength.................. - 1.00x
Data Drive Strength................. - 1.00x
MEMCLK Drive Strength............... - 1.00x
Addr/Cmd Drive Strength............. - 1.50x
CS/ODT Drive Strength............... - 1.50x
CKE Drive Strenght.................. - 1.50x


>PWM Settings:
 
PWM Control.......................... - Enabled
CPU VID Control...................... - 1.23750v
CPU Vid Special Add.................. - Auto
CPU NB Vlotage Control............... - 1.23750v
CPU NB Vid Special Add............... - Auto
DRAM Voltage Control................. - 1.80v
SB PLL 1.2V Voltage.................. - 1.20v
NB Core Voltage...................... - 1.200v
NB PCI-E Voltage..................... - 1.120v
NB HT Voltage........................ - 1.270v

 
Genie BIOS Settings:
 
Timing Mode.......................... - Manual
Memory Clock value or Limit.......... - DDR 1066
PCIE 3,4 State....................... - Auto
PCIE 2 State......................... - x2
CPU TLB Cache Fix.................... - Disabled
AMD K8 Cool & Quiet control.......... - Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio...................... - Auto
Spread Spectrum...................... - Disabled
CPU Host/HTT Clock................... - 200mhz
CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock........... - 200mhz
CPU Host/HTT Adjustment Gap.......... - 5mhz
PCIE Clock........................... - 100mhz

Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 06:47 AM

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Thread Under Construction.....Stand By To Stand By

Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 08:03 AM

Hey, Guys the Thread is Under construction as you can see

So what I have done is only Posted the Most Recent Bios that work well with Phenom if anyone has any input on that subject please feel free to make suggestions as I have never tried 2/21/08 so if any of you that have been running Phenom for a while and think there is Merit in including other Bios Release both Official and Beta Please do not Hesitate to say so

justapost · 04-23-2008, 10:28 AM

M2RS Beta Bios Download Page
http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US

Screenshot blotters:
Genie Bios

PWM Settings

ODC Control Mode

HT Link Control

CPU Feature

MCT Memory Timing

PC Healt Status

Originaly posted by unknownhacka, rehosted to get thumbnails

@bro: Why Official?

Brother Esau · 04-23-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justapost

@bro: Why Official?

Got me by the short hairs on that one

Don't know seemed like the thing to do I suppose

Actually been up all night worried about my cat Marshall and have had NO Sleep!

Tony · 04-23-2008, 11:34 AM

don't fall into the **official** mode like on Intel man....means we are more like fanbois again

Morais · 04-23-2008, 11:37 AM

Thanks for the BIOS pics justapost

justapost · 04-23-2008, 12:02 PM

Sapphire Bios description for their M2R-rebrand
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/driverfiles/417.pdf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Esau

Got me by the short hairs on that one

Don't know seemed like the thing to do I suppose

Actually been up all night worried about my cat Marshall and have had NO Sleep!

It's hard to distinguish this new thread from the old one. You are movieman's pimp, let him change the word "Official" into "Dedicated".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

Thanks for the BIOS pics justapost

You are welcome

KTE · 04-23-2008, 02:00 PM

I forgot to mention my opinion on this, been busy...

This thread was a ridiculously bad idea! Who the heck thought of this!?

Relax, I'm kiddin

Good work Camp-DFI, just the title needs a bit of flexing IMO... use them abs of yours to push the words around.

Camp-DFI is Cams new official name here FYI

Rammsteiner · 04-24-2008, 12:46 AM

W00T, nice going there.

By the way, did anyone notice multiplier deviders aren't working on DFI? I tried to run 12.5 multi on NB, but no way the thing booted!

I think I set HEX value correctly. After 0F you continue with 10, 11~1F etc right?

Anyway, Im still in testing progress. But my chip seems to hate high Mhz but loves low Volts lol. And NB ran 2.4Ghz stock Vnb 7 hour AOD stability test without issues

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Rammsteiner · 04-24-2008, 04:29 AM

System is already testing for 1.5 hours AOD stability test.

2.7Ghz with CPU-Z reporting 1.248Vcore, AOD says 1.2375Vcore. 2.4Ghz NB at stock Vnb. Load is like 34C

. Ill keep on going like this for a while. I still hope for a better OC's although Ive to be honest such a cool running Phenom is just awesome.

I just did some re-reading things and Ill try at some point HT multi at 7 and check HTref out again. Apparently dropping HT multi might push HTT OC's, but no multi OC'ing or something.

dng · 04-24-2008, 05:16 AM

this thread is awesome. i got my dfi 790fx m2rs board coming. i can't wait to play with it. anyone here running 8gigs of memory with this board? just wondering if it has issue with running max memory. i hope more people will contribute to this thread. thanks again brother.

justapost · 04-24-2008, 05:31 AM

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.0Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,351V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,15V (Bios) 1,144V (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°C coredamage, 60°C max prime95
Prime Time: 22hrs

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.2Ghz
CPU-VID: 1,3125V (Bios) 1,354V (DMM)
NB-VID: 1,25V (Bios) ? (DMM)
CPU-TEMP: 63°-64°C coredamage, 62°C max prime95
Prime Time: 12hrs

I use the following procedure for stability testing.

1. Sandra Memory Latency (that triggers a freeze here very quickly)
2. CoreDamage for a few minutes to see what temps i will get
3. Prime95 together with 3dmark06, to generate a very high power consumption
4. Prime95 longtest
5. Application testing (Surfing, Openoffice, Antivir) for a while.

Lowest voltages for 2.8Ghz/2.4Ghz

1.3125V: passed 1, power off at coredamage
1.325V: passed 1, power off at coredamage
1.35V: passed 1 and 2, failed prime95 immediate
1.3625V: passed 1 and 2, failed prime95 after 3mins
1.3875V: passed 1 and 2,3 power off during prime run after ~30mins.
1.4V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 48mins
1.4125V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 4:50hrs
1.425V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after 5:30hrs

Trying with 1.35V CPU-VID

1.35V: prime failed immediate
1.375V: prime failed immediate

Back to 1.3125V CPU-VID

1.4325V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after ~9hrs

With this high NB voltage I get temps up to 66°C (cpu). All those latest tests failed on the second core. This core is not a weak one, on the M3A I could run 3GHz on that core with ~1.35V. If I use too low CPU-VID prime95 normaly fails on the weaker cores 3 and 4. I suspect core 2 does not like high temperatures.

Trying with 1.325V CPU-VID

1.4325V: passed 1 and 2,3 failed prime95 after ~13hrs

justapost · 04-24-2008, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

W00T, nice going there.

By the way, did anyone notice multiplier deviders aren't working on DFI? I tried to run 12.5 multi on NB, but no way the thing booted!

I think I set HEX value correctly. After 0F you continue with 10, 11~1F etc right?

Anyway, Im still in testing progress. But my chip seems to hate high Mhz but loves low Volts lol. And NB ran 2.4Ghz stock Vnb 7 hour AOD stability test without issues

.

Your NB works alot better than mine here. I played with the NB-DID while i was tweaking p-states. Anything beside 1 as a divider did not work here also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

System is already testing for 1.5 hours AOD stability test.

2.7Ghz with CPU-Z reporting 1.248Vcore, AOD says 1.2375Vcore. 2.4Ghz NB at stock Vnb. Load is like 34C

. Ill keep on going like this for a while. I still hope for a better OC's although Ive to be honest such a cool running Phenom is just awesome.

I just did some re-reading things and Ill try at some point HT multi at 7 and check HTref out again. Apparently dropping HT multi might push HTT OC's, but no multi OC'ing or something.

I reached around 270MHz ref HT wise but with not so high CPU multis (~11). With higher multis I can use up to 260MHz.
My 9600BE topped out at around 285MHz.

Rammsteiner · 04-24-2008, 06:17 AM

Nice write up of your results justapost.

Looks like Phenom differs a lot regarding Voltage requirements and Mhz yield.

Also I think BIOS's are still NOT optimized completely to get the best out of Phenom. For example, Tony's Phenom article over at TTR. 790FX-DQ6 did very nice with HTT, but DFI didnt.

HTT has, as far as Im aware, nothing to do with the CPU. So I really think this is a BIOS problem. At least, I hope. Otherwise the board wouldnt be able to handle it. But that's not making a lot of sense since I could hit minimal 290Mhz with a X2 plugged in. But tbh, I didnt do a lot of testing with HTT clocking though. But whether HTT clocking can be fixed by BIOS or not, if we look at DDR1066 mode OCíng it's still very clear BIOS's need some fine tuning.

So lets hope for a better BIOS soon shall we

.

Also, I was wondering since people talk about 'Red mode' etc in AOD... It seems it enables some sort of faster CF mode or so, is this possible to set by BIOS too?

Rammsteiner · 04-24-2008, 06:36 AM

After 4 hours of AOD stability test I quit it. 1.248Vcore by CPU-Z seems stable!

Testing 1.21Vcore by CPU-Z now. If that's stable Im at one side very pleased and on the other side pissed as

. I mean, I prefer running 1.3V and hitting 2.8Ghz~2.9Ghz over 1.21V or even lower and only 2.7Ghz anytime. On the otherhand, maybe heat was an issue after all and now I know it does such low Volts it might do better.

Brother Esau · 04-24-2008, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

don't fall into the **official** mode like on Intel man....means we are more like fanbois again

Title Changed any input?