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Originally Posted by Tjalve
Got it stable at 520x6 today on my E8500 
I know its not the same thing om Dual Core but it seems like this board can get some nice FSB clocks.

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Starting to play with Q9450 OEM,L806B004.Waffer number not good.We shall see.
Edit:Reseated block 3 times.These little chips idle hot,if coretemp 097.1 is correct.
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03-27-2008, 01:03 PM
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Here's what my stock settings looks like:
ANy thoughts? (Notice how CoreTemp says 3250 (?WTF?)
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03-27-2008, 01:31 PM
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Nice, I didn't realise C1 Quads apart from QX's had hit the streets did you get it retail ?
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03-27-2008, 01:44 PM
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Tx will try 1st thing after lunch. So it would be like this: 88/88/102?
What would be the correct Nb volt for 88/88/96? I wanna try to estabilish a link that would work the best for me.
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67-69% of vtt =gtl
first 2 are for cpu vtt
last is for fsbv
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03-27-2008, 01:52 PM
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Just having a play with one of these while reviewing it.
It does well at low voltage so far.
400x9 3600Mhz 1.31v 800Mhz RAM - All voltage settings at default apart from the NB voltage at 1.35v and DRAM voltage at 2.19v.
CPU Feature
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
CIE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9 X
Target CPU Clock: 3600Mhz
CPU Clock: 400
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 400/800
Target DRAM Speed: 800Mhz
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.31v
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.19v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51v
NB Core Voltage: 1.35v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.211v - Note that this is slightly higher than the X38's 1.205v
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disabled - Not needed yet.
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
Enhance Data transmitting: AUTO
Enhance Addressing: AUTO
T2 Dispatch: Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current
Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
Ch 1 Control fine delay: Current
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
Ch 2 Control fine delay: Current
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): AUTO
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
I couldn't go any higher at this voltage.
I've also done a DFI BIOS guide that might help a few people.
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03-27-2008, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
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67-69% of vtt =gtl
first 2 are for cpu vtt
last is for fsbv
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Humm so how come my Gtl's are off if 0.69x1.26v(my actual vtt volts) equals 87-88??
Can you explain for dummies how you calculate yours (I've read all the links)?
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03-27-2008, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Humm so how come my Gtl's are off if 0.69x1.26v(my actual vtt volts) equals 87-88??
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Your method of computing GTL values is close. Depending on component tolerances you will be within +/-5.
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03-27-2008, 04:11 PM
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Some good info & a good bit of work there, its real nice to see a UK review on a DFI & actually be able to get hold of it from a large UK retailer when the board is still hot news.
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03-27-2008, 04:22 PM
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Thanks mate
Theres a few places in the UK with stock on the way for sure. Scan has stock.
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03-27-2008, 04:27 PM
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Vey nice Clunk.Just a short run here on Q9450.450x8.
Voltage Settings
Cpu VID 1.29375
CPU VID Control: Auto
CPU VID Special Add: Disabled
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.640
NB Core Voltage: 1.492
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.175
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt:
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt:
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt:
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Reason: Add cpu vid
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03-27-2008, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Humm so how come my Gtl's are off if 0.69x1.26v(my actual vtt volts) equals 87-88??
Can you explain for dummies how you calculate yours (I've read all the links)?
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1,5vX.69=103 you got 96 nb gtl
or am i getting something wrong
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03-27-2008, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
1,5vX.69=103 you got 96 nb gtl
or am i getting something wrong
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Not to argue, but it is my understanding that both the CPU and NB GTL settings are a % of the VTT. Is that not correct?
According to the Chart it is true.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/artic...fault_gtl.html
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03-27-2008, 04:51 PM
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GTLxVTTxVNB
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Originally Posted by zsamz_
1,5vX.69=103 you got 96 nb gtl
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I see what you mean Sam:
So you calc like this:
For CPU GTL 0/3&1/2 = 0.69*VTT voltage
For NB GTL = 0.69*NB voltage
The original way of making those calcs are always to use VTT as reference in percentage, like Praz said. So all variables must come from VTT and none from VNB (so always apply 0.69*VTT voltage for CPU GTL and NB GTL) - it's strange I know
But for some like you seams to be the case that a stray NB GTL works better.
I will try both ways and see if I can get those 4 sticks running 1200Mhz 2.1v again.
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03-27-2008, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
I see what you mean Sam:
So you calc like this:
For CPU GTL 0/3&1/2 = 0.69*VTT voltage
For NB GTL = 0.69*NB voltage
The original way of making those calcs are always to use VTT as reference in percentage, like Praz said. So all variables must come from VTT and none from VNB (so always apply 0.69*VTT voltage for CPU GTL and NB GTL) - it's strange I know
But for some like you seams to be the case that a stray NB GTL works better.
I will try both ways and see if I can get those 4 sticks running 1200Mhz 2.1v again.
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yup thats how i do it works for me maybe i'm wrong
i run 4x1 @ 1200+ easy should be same or better on x48
edit: you right i messed up all gtl is related to cpu vtt pl voltage
back to drawing board for me i be makin some new tests
maybe i pass 555fsb lol
but funny how my settings workin for me
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03-27-2008, 05:18 PM
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From page 24 of the X38 datasheet.
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Note: Unless otherwise noted, the voltage level for all signals
in this interface is tied to the termination voltage of the Host Bus (VTT).
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As it pertains to the chipset in this intance VTT is taken from the same source that supplies the processor.
From page 284 of the same datasheet.
Notice inside the red boxes? 0.666xVTT_FSB. Northbridge GTLREF is set from VTT.
When it's all said and done all that really matters is one comes up with settings that work.
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03-27-2008, 06:27 PM
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Guys I think I screwed up: I bought ram too slow for my goals. For some reason the only factor I weighed once the 2 diff ram types were in my newegg basket was price. I bought 8GB (2x2x2) of DDR800. Instead of the 1066
Right now I'm at 1.2vcore 3.2Ghz (all else stock; vcore could be potentially less)
I tried to isolate the ram and couldn't go much further than 800Mhz.
When doing 901 (for 3.6Ghz), I gave the NB 1.4 and the ram 2.25v (6x multi) and boot process gets hung @ first prompt. I've gotten REALLY rusty -- any ideas on where to go next? I would apprecite a good plan of attack to see if it really is my ram
Thanks
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03-27-2008, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gersson
Guys I think I screwed up: I bought ram too slow for my goals. For some reason the only factor I weighed once the 2 diff ram types were in my newegg basket was price. I bought 8GB (2x2x2) of DDR800. Instead of the 1066
Right now I'm at 1.2vcore 3.2Ghz (all else stock; vcore could be potentially less)
I tried to isolate the ram and couldn't go much further than 800Mhz.
When doing 901 (for 3.6Ghz), I gave the NB 1.4 and the ram 2.25v (6x multi) and boot process gets hung @ first prompt. I've gotten REALLY rusty -- any ideas on where to go next? I would apprecite a good plan of attack to see if it really is my ram
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Have you tried loosening your ram timings? That should get you higher clocks. If I may ask, what are the rated default timings and voltage for your ram at 800 mhz?
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03-27-2008, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebulus
Have you tried loosening your ram timings? That should get you higher clocks. If I may ask, what are the rated default timings and voltage for your ram at 800 mhz?
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I'm using 2x of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
I'm going to turn in, though -- enough for today. 3.2Ghz stable @ 1.18vcore all else stock -- not bad
QUICK EDIT:
I tried 450 FSB; NB:1.5v; 5-5-5-15 @901mhz ram...any suggestions on some timings? I'm thinking 2.20vdimm cos of all the ram?
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03-27-2008, 09:55 PM
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I just got my system built this afternoon with an E3110 and i'm posting 9x445 (4005) at stock volts right now but i have yet to run any real tests. I'll report back tomorrow with some real results if time permits.
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03-27-2008, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gersson
I'm using 2x of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231122
I'm going to turn in, though -- enough for today. 3.2Ghz stable @ 1.18vcore all else stock -- not bad
QUICK EDIT:
I tried 450 FSB; NB:1.5v; 5-5-5-15 @901mhz ram...any suggestions on some timings? I'm thinking 2.20vdimm cos of all the ram?
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change your trfc to 42 then try, and use teh voltage with an actual voltage as close to 2.1 as u can get
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03-27-2008, 10:39 PM
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How did you guys mount a Thermaltake Ultra 120 Extreme on this board vertically,and cooling the NB too?If you mount the original cooler from the box,the TR 120 Extreme has to be mounted horizontally to fit,and this is very bad for the power supply if you mount it this way because all the hot air from the CPU,NB,goes there.
Does this problem dissapear when you mount a Noctua U6 NB cooler,if you have a TR 120 Ultra Extreme?
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03-27-2008, 11:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken1
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Starting to play with Q9450 OEM,L806B004.Waffer number not good.We shall see.
Edit:Reseated block 3 times.These little chips idle hot,if coretemp 097.1 is correct.
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Sorry its of topic but what are considered good waffer numbers for the Q9450/X3350.
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03-28-2008, 12:37 AM
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mrcape
what model exactly is this heatsink
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03-28-2008, 01:31 AM
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Hey, for some reason when I have Logitech Setpoint set to it's own mouse driver as opposed to "OS's" I get complete system freezes when left clicking from time to time. I have to hard shut down when this happens.
Only component I've changed today has been the motherboard and PSU, this mouse worked fine before. Issue with X48? Or what?
Anyone else with a Logitech G5 mouse (or other I guess) had this issue?
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03-28-2008, 01:38 AM
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no idea why u guys running so high for 1600fsb at those nb voltages
here is mine
everything at stock
just increased the fsb to 400 .. rest all at default
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