MC-TDX Nozzle Kit + Bowed Base

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 03:54 AM

As has been pointed out by Martinm210’s Danger Den MC-TDX Pressure Drop Test Results the MC-TDX is the new King of Flow for CPU pin matrix type blocks, which got us both thinking about a nozzle kit so decided to knock one up.

The pin arrangement does have a recessed section in the middle which may indicate the Danger Den have plans for something similar and would guess they have plans to put something out soon.

Anyway, basically got a splodge of Blu-Tac and pushed it into the pins which gave an exact impression of the recess then with a black marker I highlighted the bit in question and transferred it onto a piece of paper.

I hunted around for a piece of material the correct thickness (1.1mm) and came across an old CD case which was spot on so stuck the imprint onto it and cut it out with a fret saw.

I little bit of filing later and i have a finished nozzle that fits really snug and will stay in position once the top is re-fitted.

I’ll knock up a few more and if martinm210 wants to undertake the job of testing he can try a few different hole configurations, as he would do a much better job of testing than I could.

A few pictures of the making……

~~septim~~ · 01-12-2008, 04:45 AM

cool, everything should improve with some more focused pressure.

pattern should probably be the same with dTek nozzles...

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 05:55 AM

I would of thought directional flow to the four cores would be more beneficial as the original nozzle kit was more for single core but I guess it will be a bit of trial and error testing tbh

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 08:21 AM

Looks good, some temp results would be nice...

Martinm210 · 01-12-2008, 08:35 AM

Wow, that's a great idea an much simpler than what I was thinking.

I'm going to have to try that too. For a C2D, I'm thinking a nice simple slot nozzle or maybe an array of smaller jets in a rectangle.

Way to go!!

Martinm210 · 01-12-2008, 08:36 AM

I didn't realize that depression was rectangular, that has to be what it's for.

systemviper · 01-12-2008, 08:41 AM

I have been sticking to my apogee GT since everything that has come out hasn't been a monster improvement over the go old Apogee gt, but i have been reading about the
MC-TDX and i think i am going to put one of these MC-TDX in my best rig to cool the quad even better.... It will be interesting to see what temp changes are on my quad.

but now i need this new mod lol

I lile the look of this new block but as we see , just a few tweeks and wazzzom, you got something pretty special

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 08:43 AM

Yeah the depression is more of a square shape with rounded corners so there is no chance of it spinning or turning.

If you PM your address Martin i'll get a few more made and send them over for you to do some testing as you have the relivant equipment along with some DDC tops as per PM

Martinm210 · 01-12-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by coolmiester

Yeah the depression is more of a square shape with rounded corners so there is no chance of it spinning or turning.

If you PM your address Martin i'll get a few more made and send them over for you to do some testing as you have the relivant equipment along with some DDC tops as per PM

You have PM, this is a great idea. I'm really looking forward to this mod

nikhsub1 · 01-12-2008, 11:04 AM

problem is, this block will never contend for a top spot without being stepped or bowed.

Vapor · 01-12-2008, 11:38 AM

Doesn't DD have nozzles for the regular TDX? Are they compatible? If not, can they be cut down?

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Originally Posted by nikhsub1

problem is, this block will never contend for a top spot without being stepped or bowed.

Agreed

Martinm210 · 01-12-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nikhsub1

problem is, this block will never contend for a top spot without being stepped or bowed.

Yeah, I'm curious if the thicker 1mm nozzle actually bowes the base, I think it will.

I can try stepping on the mill, but I need to finish testing all stock first to have good numbers to compare against.

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 11:45 AM

The TDX Accelerator Nozzle Kit is actually 3.2mm thick which might be a bit much tbh and could end up bending the copper pins but i'll have a bit play

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 12:47 PM

Used the blanc from the older TDX Accelerator kit but at 3.2mm it was never going to fit so filed it down to the correct rounded corner square then proceeded to shave off some thickness.

Eventually got it down to 1.88mm which fits just fine and low and behold it bows the base

And some more pictures...

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 12:53 PM

Nice! Lets see some temps! A comparison with the Fuzion, nozzled Fuzion, MC-TDX, nozzled MC-TDX, bowed MC-TDX, and the EK would be very helpful, if not over the top.

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

Nice! Lets see some temps! A comparison with the Fuzion, nozzled Fuzion, MC-TDX, nozzled MC-TDX, bowed MC-TDX, and the EK would be very helpful, if not over the top.

Martinm210 is kindly doing the number crunching so i'm sending them over to him on Monday.

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by coolmiester

Martinm210 is kindly doing the number crunching so i'm sending them over to him on Monday.

Sounds good, thank you Martin for all your hard work!

Martinm210 · 01-12-2008, 01:02 PM

Awesome! That's great!!

Do you think you needed all of that 1.88mm?

1/16" acrylic or lexan sheet would be 1.58mm, it would be pretty easy to make blanks from that.

coolmiester · 01-12-2008, 01:10 PM

I would say 1.88mm would be maximum without doing damage to the pins and would imagine 1.58mm would do just fine - depends on how much of a bow is needed i would have thought.

smee · 01-12-2008, 01:15 PM

So your saying that this dd block with out perform the fuzion?

Also, this may sound noobie, what's the point in bowing a block? (I can't seem to figure it out)

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smee

So your saying that this dd block with out perform the fuzion?

Also, this may sound noobie, what's the point in bowing a block? (I can't seem to figure it out)

It puts more pressure on the center of the CPU (where the core is) and results in better temps.

smee · 01-12-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

It puts more pressure on the center of the CPU (where the core is) and results in better temps.

Interesting.....
But then you don't want the motherboard to bow, right? Or is that a good thing?

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smee

Interesting.....
But then you don't want the motherboard to bow, right? Or is that a good thing?

No you don't. That's why people use backplates.

smee · 01-12-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

No you don't. That's why people use backplates.

Gotcha.
So, the nozzel kit for the fuzion, the bigger the fitting you put in there the more the fuzion bends right?
The 5.5mm nozzel is the biggest one for the fuzion right?

Nate P. · 01-12-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smee

Gotcha.
So, the nozzel kit for the fuzion, the bigger the fitting you put in there the more the fuzion bends right?
The 5.5mm nozzel is the biggest one for the fuzion right?

Yes, the 5.5 is the biggest, but that's the size of the hole. All the nozzles are the size, it's the size of the opening that's different. So the 5.5 would have the highest flow out of all of them, no bow the base the most.