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11-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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It's time to FORGET working a Yorkfield on a i680/i780 chipset...
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11-14-2007, 03:03 PM
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Haha, battle of the giants.
Tho I bet the 45nm issue on nVidia is something else. nVidia and chipset quality is not something that can be used in a positive sentense.
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11-14-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hipro5
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Looks like ati will be the way to go.
Thanks for the info 
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11-14-2007, 03:06 PM
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Doh, means I'll have to fork out to replace my i650 board...
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11-14-2007, 03:07 PM
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lol so intel plays the same game as nvidia now?
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11-14-2007, 03:08 PM
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It will be interesting to see what turns out to be the cause of the incompatibility. could you explain the problems? what kind of issues are there?
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11-14-2007, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Haha, battle of the giants.
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lol, more like giant vs. mouse. It just so happens that nvidia is the dominant force in the graphics industry.
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11-14-2007, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
NVIDIA doesn't give licence for the SLI to INTEL, so INTEL is "playing tricks" with them with the new CPUs.... 
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Is that official, or "not-official, but probably true" 
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11-14-2007, 03:12 PM
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Lol Nice one by Intel I hope nVidia fuys will finally use their brains and let Intel use SLI...
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11-14-2007, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyz
It will be interesting to see what turns out to be the cause of the incompatibility. could you explain the problems? what kind of issues are there?
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Curious as well.... how does Intel prevent theirs CPU to work on a certain chipset?
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11-14-2007, 03:14 PM
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11-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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11-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Piotrsama
Curious as well.... how does Intel prevent theirs CPU to work on a certain chipset?
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They dont.
There was a nVidia chipset that couldnt handle quadcores aswell if I dont remember wrongly.
Anyway, I bet nVidia just took the shortroute. Now people also got a reason to upgrade to i790...
Is this tested with the Asus i680 non reference board aswell?
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11-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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OMG bad news.... but... mmm meybe i780 support 45nm... it no?
I believe that people is working on 780's bios to support it and have a good performance and a good reading of multi
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11-14-2007, 03:15 PM
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It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I'm done with Nvidia Motherboards, have been for awhile now and this doesn't help.
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11-14-2007, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicksterr
lol, more like giant vs. mouse. It just so happens that nvidia is the dominant force in the graphics industry.
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Not really. Intel's imbedded graphics takes up more of the graphics market than Nvidia. While Nvidia DOES carry the performance crown, and has for quite some time, Intel still has most of the graphics industry. Something like ~60% isn't it? I can't remember the exact number, 60% could be far off, I just remember they have more of the market than Nvidia.
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11-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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I almost bought a 680i chipset to do 8800GT SLI... Guess I made the good choice going with a X38
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11-14-2007, 03:17 PM
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Oh fudgecakes. I just ordered 2 new GFX cards for SLI to pair with my Yorkie!
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11-14-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by [cTx]Baleful
Not really. Intel's imbedded graphics takes up more of the graphics market than Nvidia. While Nvidia DOES carry the performance crown, and has for quite some time, Intel still has most of the graphics industry. Something like ~60% isn't it? I can't remember the exact number, 60% could be far off, I just remember they have more of the market than Nvidia.
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Its very roughly 40/30/30 between Intel, nVidia and AMD in the GFX.
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11-14-2007, 03:20 PM
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I wasnŽt expecting this 
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11-14-2007, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsama
Curious as well.... how does Intel prevent theirs CPU to work on a certain chipset?
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They could have not give all the specifications. But as yorkfield has supposed to work with a bunch of old intel chipset:
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3138
"Elsewhere in the land of Intel chipsets, we have several manufacturers that will offer a combination of Wolfdale and/or Yorkfield compatibility on their 945GC-based motherboards. While this chipset does not specifically support 1333FSB operations, a couple of manufacturers have worked their BIOS magic to provide support. We might even see support on the venerable 975X chipset as ASUS is in the process of validation testing for their workstation boards. Even though the P965 chipset does not officially support the 45nm processor families, we have MSI offering BIOS support for two of their boards. We also expect to see "unofficial" support on the latest performance oriented P965 boards from ASUS and Gigabyte if stability problems when overclocking can be overcome. We will be testing a couple of their boards next week to see how well they work."
I think it's a bit unfair to say it's Intel Fault. 
But I don't know if hipro is just disappointed or if he has some "real" informations. The word "retail" look like there was something new between es and retail?
Last edited by nemrod; 11-14-2007 at 03:27 PM.
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11-14-2007, 03:26 PM
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So much for all the supports 45nm CPU claims from the likes of Asus/Gigabyte, they all claimed it would work on i650/i680 boards with a bios update, surely they would have closely examined all the compatibility issues before adding such claims?
Perhaps intel forced board makers to drop adding bios support for the new Intel CPU's, or else suffer the consequence of non delivery of their chipsets?
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11-14-2007, 03:28 PM
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I think both parties just shot themselves in the foot.
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11-14-2007, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
I think both parties just shot themselves in the foot.
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If you look at Steam survey:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=165628
Multi-GPU Systems (100 of 19219 Total Users (0.52% of Total)
and consider that mean something,
or consider sli support with vista
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you see that it's far to be clear that Intel shot in their foot if they don't have sli (intel or nvidia chipset)
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