Any one using fluid XP?

[JamesTX10]

After about a week in my loop the blue is almost all gone. There is a dark blue spot in the top of the res and a dark blue spot by my drain plug. But the rest is a light blue. What is up?

[serialk11r]

Why did you buy fluid xp lol????

[epion2985]

Not this again. Ok lets make it quick.

-Fluid Xp is horrible as are most "pc coolants", which are at the very least unnecessary and inferior to water
-don't use it
-don't buy in to advertisement
-distilled water with pentosin is the best thing you can get
-close thread

[JamesTX10]

I want the blue color. You have not even touched on my question yet though. I did not ask if it is the best, I asked if anyone else uses it and if they have the same problem. If this is caused by me not cleaning my loop enough or some other thing that I did then I can fix it. If it is an issues that just happens with fluid XP then I will try to find another route to go.

[Patriote]

Lo0L! You seem to have the same problem(s) i had with that crap... Open up your blocks and pump and see what it did to them! It stained all my stuff and cloged (Kinda) my Apogee! Yeah... i said cloged! temps would become worse over time with that crap... The blue was almost all gone, it stained all my stuff ( Had to clean blocks and pump whit a toothbrush and some vinegar, as for the rad took me a hell lot of vinegar pouring times to get the vinegar clean of blue when it was coming out after a 6hours soaking time...) etc... Not even UV blue as they state it is... So overall it's BS!

I'd recommend you to take apart your watercooling system, clean all blocks, pump(s) actually clean everything you can with white vinegar and a toothbrush and then get something else they recommend here. Pentosin G11 for example.

Whats funyn is that you have the same system i ran with that Fluid-XP crap... An Apex Ultra kit!

[phelan1777]

I want the blue color. You have not even touched on my question yet though. I did not ask if it is the best, I asked if anyone else uses it and if they have the same problem. If this is caused by me not cleaning my loop enough or some other thing that I did then I can fix it. If it is an issues that just happens with fluid XP then I will try to find another route to go.

I think he was telling you its the Fluid XP. Use Pentosin 11 to get the blue color and not have the same headache.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I recall similar problem on another forum in which the radiator caused the "blue" to disappear or something like that (it's been a while)
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[JamesTX10]

Lo0L! You seem to have the same problem(s) i had with that crap...

Thanks for replying to my question. Guess I will go with the harmful to my health juice when I change it out.

[Pete]

Sooner the better to be honest with ya dude

[JamesTX10]

I am ordering some blue pentosin from Petra. Do I need the PT Nuke as well or is pentosin a biocide as well?

[phelan1777]

I am ordering some blue pentosin from Petra. Do I need the PT Nuke as well or is pentosin a biocide as well?

The Nuke is a Biocide and the Pentoson is just to help with cooling.

I am using both.


Here is a post my Petra regrding using just Distilled water and NUKE:

Based on some experiments that I've been working on recently, that may not be such a great idea... unless you also toss in some sort of a pH buffer (like the ones available at fish stores). See, the PT Nuke is mildly acidic (due to the Copper sulfate and Citric acid), which will result in a slight drop in coolant pH when used as suggested. When PT Nuke is added to coolant which already has additives in it, the effect on pH is very small. However, when PT Nuke is added to a liter of pure distilled (which, typically, seems to have a pH of around 6.3... or there's just something screwy about the distilled I've been getting from the grocery store), it has a substantial effect on pH because there's nothing else in the coolant. In this case, you'd be looking at a resulting pH of 4.9 for 1 drop/1L pure distilled and 4.5 for 2 drops/1L pure distilled.

Again, this is stuff that I've only recently acquired the necessary equipment for testing. If you're using the PT Nuke as suggested in a coolant with other additives, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're planning on running pure distilled with PT Nuke, then you'll probably want to add some sort of pH buffer solution.

*edit* I'll be updating the product page once I come up with some better "universal" guidelines for its use.

[lokitexas]

I will be doind the same thing this weekend. I used FluidXP and it was fine for a while, then it looks like it broke down or something. I have what looks like sandish substance in my res, and of course the tubing.

No temp difference yet, but I am fairly upset with this crap. I ordered Pentosin and new tubing as well...it should be here tomorrow actually. I am going to try to clean the blocks w/o taking them off the mobo...depending on how bad it is.

[JamesTX10]

it is nasty stuff. It works out ok for me because I will tear the whole thing down to move it to my new case when it gets in.

[ramenchef]

If I use zerex as my water additive, do you guys reccommend that I still get PT nuke or is the zerex good enough?

[JamesTX10]

Here is what I got from fluid XP:

Hello James, We will need some information from you to determine why as you say there is gunk in your blocks and radiator before we can do anything. We do not have ingredients in our product to produce "gunk" but there is other factors in a cooling system that can cause problems. Please supply us with a list of your components and their ages, this will help us in analyzing your problem. As far as the blue washing out, was it still UV reactive and are the other bottles of blue doing the same thing. Thanks, and with your help we can figure out what happened in your system. Jake Fluid XP+ Support

I emailed them back with my specs. Will see what they say.

[serialk11r]

Really? uh oh, looks like I'll need something besides pt nuke... add some baking soda? lol

[Fairydust]

If I use zerex as my water additive, do you guys reccommend that I still get PT nuke or is the zerex good enough?

Zerex and Pentosin/other manufacturer G11/G12/G12+ have biocides inside already, no need for additional stuff.

[JamesTX10]

Here are some pics:


Notice the white gunk floating


More white gunk


Close up of the blue side and the clear side

[lokitexas]

Here are some from mine. Notice the filmy stuff?

[JamesTX10]

I drained the system down as I had sold the case. Here are some more pics of the damage.

This is after about 2 weeks of use. The bottle on the left is what I drained out of the loop. The bottle on the right is new fluid. All the rest of the blue was clogged in the rad. Not too much in the water blocks. It took me around 2.5 hours to get the rad clear.


The res is "empty"

[phelan1777]

Here are some pics:


Notice the white gunk floating


More white gunk


Close up of the blue side and the clear side

That is the same stuff, well looks the same as what Philly_Boy had in his loop when we took his apart.

[creidiki]

Apperently it works allright if you filter it really well before putting it in... at least, Marci says so, so its probably true

[JamesTX10]

filter it with what? There was no gunk in it when it was added - Nothing to strain out in a coffie filter.

[creidiki]

Ask Marci, I just put 2 Tbsp. of Xerex into a pure Distilled loop and close the case *shrug*

[JamesTX10]

I am going to be using pentosen and distilled water when I set it back up