NDA is up, ATI X1950 card results!!!!!

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 04:24 AM

HotHardware - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX CrossFire, 256MB X1900 XT, X1650 Pro, and X1300 XT
Testbed : FX-60/2GB DDR400

[H] - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX / CrossFire Evaluation
Testbed : FX-62/2GB DDR2 800

Hexus - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX 512MiB
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 800

techPowerUp - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX
Testbed : A64@2.0/2GB DDR400

MADSHRIMPS - Powercolor ATI X1950XTX 512Mb Video Card Review (thanks Jort)
Testbed : A64@2.65/1GB DDR550

mvktech.net - PowerColor Radeon X1950 XTX 512MB HDCP
Testbed : E6300/2GB DDR2 1000

Legit Reviews - The ATI Radeon X1950XTX Video Card Review (Thanks Wicked)
Testbed : X2 A64@2.4GHz/2GB DDR500

The Inquirer - ATI's new DDR 4 X1950 XTX is a wunder kid
Testbed : FX-62/2GB DDR2 800

FiringSquad - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX Performance Preview
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 800

DriverHeaven - X1950XTX review (thanks Devious)
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 1066

Anandtech - ATI's New High End and Mid Range: Radeon X1950 XTX & X1900 XT 256MB
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 800

The Tech Report - ATI's Radeon X1950 XTX and CrossFire Edition graphics cards...and family
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 800

Bjorn3D - ATI X1950XTX, X1650 Pro and X1300XT
Testbed : X6800/2GB DDR2 800

Guru3D - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX preview
Testbed : FX-62/2GB DDR2 800

Technic3D - ZurÃ¼ck an die Spitze: PowerColor X1950 XTX Review
Testbed : 955@3.46/2GB DDR2 900

PC Perspective - ATI Radeon X1950 XTX Review and CrossFire Evaluation
Testbed : Not stated

Legit Reviews - ATI Radeon X1950XTX CrossFire Review (thanks Wicked)
Testbed : A64 4800+/2GB PC4000 (is this a joke? - jk)

Quick Briefing From Initial Reviews:
*Slightly more powerful than X1900XTX, with only room to grow from driver enhancements
*Depending on game at a high enough res X1950XTX matches, sometimes beats, a 7960GX2
*The new cooler is MUCH quieter than previous ATI offerings.
*The X1950 is cooler than the X1900 by 5-10Âº C (depending on review)
*At idle it has higher power usage, at load it has less power usage than a X1900XTX (this is only from a single review, please verify)
*Overclocking not too great, The INQ has highest OC from reviews of 650/2000 @ 689/2178
*Biggest jump from X1900XTX has been seen in Oblivion around +10fps @ 16x12 16xAF/HDR
*From DH: The good news for people who own an X1900 Crossfire Master card is that it is possible to add a X1950XTX to the system and Crossfire works. In fact crossfire works much better than expected with the X1950/X1900 mixture. We had expected scores from the mixed card CF to be almost the exact same as true X1900 crossfire however the mixed card system provided some excellent increases, especially in Oblivion.

-Sanborn

nn_step · 08-23-2006, 04:43 AM

hmmm

now that is a powerful card

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 04:45 AM

this one is better

nn_step · 08-23-2006, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanborn

^^ ? You picked the single game that the GX2 is super fast in. How about some halflife 2 love

i picked that one because:
1) nVidia has the software advantage (it was made specificly for nVidia GPUs)
2) ATi single GPU just beat a Top End nVidia Dual GPU solution
3) and its ownage works best at Uber settings

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 04:49 AM

To be honest im a bit depressed that the 1950 is only around 2-4 fps faster in most of the benchmarks i've seen. I guess I was expecting more of a boost. maybe with the right drivers the GDDR4 will shine.

I'm upgrading from a 9800 pro 128mb so regardless this is mega ultra fast

Man I hope I can get one next month....

Hooker · 08-23-2006, 04:51 AM

Why not wait for the DX10 cards?!

You know that both ATi and nVidia don't want to blow their load early

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 04:52 AM

1) Because I dont want Nvidias non-unified solution (Or so I've made my mind) and the ATI card will likely be an 07 card (imo). I don't believe in waiting, its just silly. Especially when you could sell this card in a couple months used for almost as much as you paid for it....

2) My computer will be finished within 30 days, I need something to replace my 9800pro by then

flexo_fk · 08-23-2006, 05:16 AM

woa thats really a nice card

Quote:

Originally Posted by nn_step

2) ATi single GPU just beat a Top End nVidia Dual GPU solution

but only in 2560*1600

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 05:25 AM

It kind of annoys me that all these reviewers are following this method:

They crank individual cards to invidual settings and then compare the two card's performance in a single app.........but on their highest settings.

So if card A does 16x AF and card B does 32x AF and card B is the same fps or slower....it just ends up making that card look mediocre.

I want some real benchmarks from these websites in various resolutions with appropriate settings like 4x AA and 16x AF selected!!!!

turtle · 08-23-2006, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nn_step

hmmm

now that is a powerful card

Hexus completely screwed up that review by not using an SLI board. Look at their new Quake 4 bench at the bottom.

Still, impressive none-the-less for the x1950.

To tell you the truth, I think [H]'s review was one of the best, at least in the overall coverage/summary (I still don't like how they bench, just like Sanborn just said). The other reviews did the static options though, so I suppose it's alright they go off the beaten track...They both arrived at the same conclusion.

I wonder how many were using HQ for the nvidia cards...

Daveb2012 · 08-23-2006, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooker

Why not wait for the DX10 cards?!

You know that both ATi and nVidia don't want to blow their load early

screw dx10, we will deal with that hurtle when it gets here.

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 05:33 AM

I find it strange that these websites are also only benchmarking like 3-4 games? WTH man, I know they were trying to get these reviews out in time but surely they have enough data and time to do like 6-8 games??? Not everyone plays Oblivion and Quake 4!!

I guess I shouldnt complain tho, its not like there have been a ton of new games.

I can't wait till the benchmarks consist of: UT2007, Crysis, Company of Heroes, Quake Wars, BF2142!! Now that will be something.

Daveb2012 · 08-23-2006, 05:39 AM

I thought it would have a slighter edge over and x1900xtx then it did. I'm not as in much of a hurry to upgrade any more

Jort · 08-23-2006, 05:40 AM

[M]adshrimps had posted an article too, maybe add it to the forst post

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=482

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Daveb2012

I thought it would have a slighter edge over and x1900xtx then it did. I'm not as in much of a hurry to upgrade any more

Depends what you are looking at tho. For example: [H] compared them as so for battlefield 2:

1950XTX: 1600x1200 QUALITY ADAA/ 16x AF
1900XTX: 1600x1200 PERFORMANCE ADAA/16x AF

So the 1950 had alpha AA turned on yet the 1900 didn't, and last time I checked BF2 has a crapload of alpha objects.

edit: You can disregard this comment, the Madshrimps review proves the same thing DaveB said and they actually benchmarked correctly

wickedld9 · 08-23-2006, 05:51 AM

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/378/1/

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 05:54 AM

This is pretty impressive

perkam · 08-23-2006, 06:15 AM

Stickied and couple more reviews added.

Perkam

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 06:31 AM

Cool, thanks Perkam. I freaked out for a second because I couldn't find this on the news section under the stickies

Hicks · 08-23-2006, 06:38 AM

Very disapointing. Infact now im serious stumped as to what to do.

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hicks

Very disapointing. Infact now im serious stumped as to what to do.

What do you mean, you have a GX2?

All I can say is, if anyone is in the same boat as me and they have a craptastic card like a 9800 pro then this is the best upgrade to get (if you can't afford a GX2). Theres 0 sense in waiting for DX10 cards imo. Don't get me wrong, they will be AMAZING....but the waiting game sucks.

zakelwe · 08-23-2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanborn

What do you mean, you have a GX2?

All I can say is, if anyone is in the same boat as me and they have a craptastic card like a 9800 pro then this is the best upgrade to get (if you can't afford a GX2). Theres 0 sense in waiting for DX10 cards imo. Don't get me wrong, they will be AMAZING....but the waiting game sucks.

Unless they are released shortly though of course then you will be kicking yourself....

Regards

Andy

Sanborn · 08-23-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Unless they are released shortly though of course then you will be kicking yourself....

Regards

Andy

I can't see it being before December, really before January. Theres no way..........

Sept 15th ATI actually has cards out, they aren't going to release an entire new product that leaves them with a ton of X1900 and X1950's in October or November. Theres no way.

It doesn't really matter anyways, these cards would fetch a pretty penny on ebay as "near mint" condition anyways. I bet you could get the value you paid for it if you didn't wait too long.

Hicks · 08-23-2006, 07:16 AM

Well i have a 7950 GX2, but im sending it back, it's crap, i don't like it, and i hate Nvidia drivers.

I have a X1800XT 512mb.

perkam · 08-23-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hicks

Well i have a 7950 GX2, but im sending it back, it's crap, i don't like it, and i hate Nvidia drivers.

I have a X1800XT 512mb.

:P: 7950GX2 will scale higher with OCs due to dual GPUs...

It's up to you though...X1950XTX has higher ram oc's on its side...with stock memory clocks higher than most can reach on phase or water.

Perkam