P5WDH i975X vs Gigabyte 965P DS3 the second encouter

[PcCI2iminal]

These are the tests
3d01
3d03
3d05
3d06
aqua03
F.E.A.R.
superpi
pifast
cpumark

All tests were run at 3x on both boards
two settings with DS3 400 x 9 /450 x 8 and 1 for P5WDH 400 x 9


enjoy


pi 8mb x 1
3m 16.172s DS3 @ 400x9
3m 10.478s DS3 @ 450x8
3m 05.266s P5W @ 400x9


pi 8mb x 2
3m 49.093s/3m 50.672s DS3 @ 400x9
3m 38.187s/3m 40.250s DS3 @ 450x8
3m 40.359s/3m 40.531s P5W @ 400x9


3d01
53460 DS3 @ 400x9
53988 DS3 @ 450x8
55884 P5W @ 400x9


3d03
34444 DS3 @ 400x9
34552 DS3 @ 450x8
34599 P5W @ 400x9


3d05
15777 DS3 @ 400x9
15878 DS3 @ 450x8
15859 P5W @ 400x9


3d06
8836 DS3 @ 400x9
8885 DS3 @ 450x8
8879 P5W @ 400x9


aquamark03
169.509 DS3 @ 400x9
175.207 DS3 @ 450x8
179.843 P5W @ 400x9


F.E.A.R. 1280x960 max 4x/16x no soft shadows
134 DS3 @ 400x9
137 DS3 @ 450x8
137 P5W @ 400x9


F.E.A.R. 1280x960 minimum
549 DS3 @ 400x9
561 DS3 @ 450x8
562 P5W @ 400x9


Pifast & CPUmark
27.06s cpumark 500 DS3 @ 400x9
pifast 26.73s cpumark 500 DS3 @ 450x8
pifast 26.47s cpumark 500 P5W @ 400x9


CPU ：Conroe E6600 ES 2.4ghz @ 1.41v
COOLER：940D box
M/B ：P5WDH
MEM ：Team Group 2.3v 4-4-4-8
HDD ：Raptor 36gb 10000rpm
VGA CARD ：XFX GX2 at stock speeds
FORCEWARE ：91.31 hi performance 0 LOD
BIOS ： 0602 PCIEx @ 100mhz MCH @ 1.65v
BIOS2 ： Hyper Path3 auto,TURBO auto,VT enable
PSU: ZIPPY Type R 600w
OS ：WIN XP SP2

CPU ：Conroe E6600 ES 2.4ghz @ 1.41v
COOLER：940D box
M/B ：Gigabyte 965P DS3
MEM ：Team Group 2.3v 4-4-4-8
HDD ：Raptor 36gb 10000rpm
VGA CARD ：XFX GX2 at stock speeds
FORCEWARE ：91.31 hi performance 0 LOD
BIOS ： F-3 PCIEx @ 100mhz MCH @ 1.7v
PSU: ZIPPY Type R 600w
OS ：WIN XP SP2

[bachus_anonym]

Busy bee, aren't you?

Very interesting comparision As some were suspecting earlier, 965P-DS3 seems to be indeed a bit slower, across all benchmarks you've run. I wonder, If this is typical for 965P or perhaps only DS3 shows this noticeable drop in performance. We'd have to see e.g. ASUS P5B Dx to to report for that comparison as well... Don't you have one, lying around somewhere?
Thanks again for sharing those results with us, PcCI2iminal

[Charloz24]

Wow thanks for sharing all these results! :thumbsup:

Well seems like the Asus P5W DH still king of the hill for performance, but the gigabyte isn't really far behind for a cheaper board.

(edit) well seems like bachus was faster than me!

[darkandlong]

Hrmm, this seems to contradict K.I.T.T.'s findings, doesn't it? I though he had the DS3 ahead in 3d apps? Can't check, as the pics are gone from his post (bandwidth exceeded)

[Ace-a-Rue]

it just goes to show you that the I965, which has the ICH8(R) chipset, was not designed to beat out the I975X...memory performance is the game for the I965X..if that interpolates into better video performance for certain games, so be it!

[BottomsUp]

Hrmm, this seems to contradict K.I.T.T.'s findings, doesn't it? I though he had the DS3 ahead in 3d apps? Can't check, as the pics are gone from his post (bandwidth exceeded)

i recall that being the case too.

[GoldenTiger]

Hrmm, this seems to contradict K.I.T.T.'s findings, doesn't it? I though he had the DS3 ahead in 3d apps? Can't check, as the pics are gone from his post (bandwidth exceeded)

Yes, it does, but K.I.T.T. only ran one run of each, which can lead to huge variance. This testing had it run 3 times each, to help eliminate possible misfindings due to variance.

[Ad Rock]

Sorry for the OT, but what NB cooler is that on the gigabyte board?

[Supertim0r]

Sorry for the OT, but what NB cooler is that on the gigabyte board?

coolermaster Blue Ice

[PcCI2iminal]

Busy bee, aren't you?

Very interesting comparision As some were suspecting earlier, 965P-DS3 seems to be indeed a bit slower, across all benchmarks you've run. I wonder, If this is typical for 965P or perhaps only DS3 shows this noticeable drop in performance. We'd have to see e.g. ASUS P5B Dx to to report for that comparison as well... Don't you have one, lying around somewhere?
Thanks again for sharing those results with us, PcCI2iminal

hehehe
This took me a week to do

ASUS P5B Dx to to report for that comparison as well... Don't you have one, lying around somewhere?

first i need to find a P5B D

Hrmm, this seems to contradict K.I.T.T.'s findings, doesn't it?

its a good question,in K.I.T.T.`s comparo(amazing thread) P5W gets raped and now DS3 look not so good,everyone knows about E66/DS3 oc issues,did Gigabyte maked a DS3 for Allandale chips?
K.I.T.T. is using an Allandale and me a Conroe

[DeToNaToR.cl]

This is a great comparision! really clear and easy reading results

It will be nice to see some ~350 FSB comparision... maybe timmings for 400+ FSB in DS3 are very loose to allow more overclock.

[Artmic]

Nice benchmarks PcCI2iminal,
sure is interesting to see the P5W vs the 965 based Giga board.
Especially since i got the P5W now lol

[mike]

great comparo!!! Very interesting. On the Gigabyte DS3 - are you also limited to 500FSB max - or is this only the limit for the DQ6?

DQ6 @ 500 ( 501 actual )

[Shaotai]

wasn't the ds3 faster than the p5w at stock speeds? I thought that was KITT's results... (or my bad memory... )

[mion]

Now it looks like I should have gone with Asus rather than gigabyte. Plus there is more mods for asus.

[charlie]

the DS3 is "made" for the E6300/E6400... it's a wonderful Allendale board.

But for the hardcore Conroe action, the extra $100 is well invested.

[Blacklash]

Interesting,

Thank you for taking the time to do that. I am eager to drop an E6700 in this board.

[cupholder2.0]

Wow, im pretty impresssed. A 150 dollar board which comes very close to a 250 dollar one. . Thanks for the tests!

[Gun_Strife]

excellent thread but just makes my decision harder
thanks for the hard work Pc

[BottomsUp]

excellent thread but just makes my decision harder
thanks for the hard work Pc

I still don't regret getting the DS3 since it's much cheaper. Good work to the OP

[I_G]

Thank you PC Criminal.

Very insightful information. Your effort is appreciated.

[Phosphate]

the DS3 is "made" for the E6300/E6400... it's a wonderful Allendale board.

But for the hardcore Conroe action, the extra $100 is well invested.

Right, this is a comparison of clock for clock.

It would be interesting to see DS3 vs ASUS in a max performance test with the allendales using same ram/cooling, etc.

[Shaotai]

So if you buy Allendale, get a 965 mobo.

If you buy Conroe or Kentsfield, get a 975 mobo.

Is that a good assumption??

[ZBr]

wow! a fantastic job PcCI2iminal, a valuable contribution indeed!


Did the Asus vdroop problem cause any instability/problems while testing??

P5W DH vs P5B Deluxe would be very insteresting....

[Gun_Strife]

Right, this is a comparison of clock for clock.

It would be interesting to see DS3 vs ASUS in a max performance test with the allendales using same ram/cooling, etc.

I think we really need to see 63 and/or 64 on ds3 vs 66 and/or 67 on p5wdh
i think that would be great a stock and clock for clock and max oc i can only dream
i dont think you can go wrong with any core 2 duo build, it just comes down to price i suppose so i might be like you bottomsup and go with cheaper build