A quick 1st look: GA-G33M-DS2R, mATX P35 mobo (pic heavy)

[MacClipper]

Official GA link is finally up!

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...e=GA-G33M-DS2R

[Lestat]

sweeeeet

i want it bad!

[diablos]

how is the vcore's drop?

[oohms]

niiiice... This will probably be the next board i get...

Does anyone know when it will become available?
And if there are any new beta bioses for it?

[tam2]

@MacClipper
Need your help on something
Open the manual that came with this board, in the PCIe slot/graphic adapter section
Does it say that this mobo need specific type or vendor of VGA card to work with?
Thanks

-tam2-

[pvhk]

Goodbye abit and welcome Gigabyte!

[pengizzle]

@MacClipper
Need your help on something
Open the manual that came with this board, in the PCIe slot/graphic adapter section
Does it say that this mobo need specific type or vendor of VGA card to work with?
Thanks

-tam2-

does not.

[tam2]

Thanks for the answer pengizzle

-tam2-

[MacClipper]

Yup, no mention of any specific video card needed, it's a standard 16x PCI-e (and 4x) slot. Seems pvhk has also picked up his own board too, looking forward to his findings.

[TEDY]

where to buy it and how much is it?

uf found it, it's around 110€ which is too much for matx...

[erwinz]

Here's why I think the mobo can do much higher, by eliminating the CPU/RAM factors, going to 450FSB is really no problem. Sometimes I even forget I am dealing with a mATX board.



Still waiting/hoping for a 1:1 fix so true performance can be properly measured.

hey,

do you use a separate video card in this run?? or just the built-in??

btw nice find..

[The Nemesis]

Goodbye abit and welcome Gigabyte!

How much ya want for the pair of Abits?



Two months from now that limited FSB isn't gonna matter all the much to

[pvhk]

PCB made in taiwan!! That's very good...

[hot_fifty]

now, how does E6600 and other 4MB cache oc on it. Anyone?

[pvhk]

tests with an e4300 & e6600 to come!
Stay tune...

[hot_fifty]

nice there

[pvhk]

My rig:
e6600 /e4300+ box intel heatsink
crucial value pc5300 (d9gmh) 1 stick
graphic card: Diamond viper TNT PCI 16Mo
PSU: asus 300w
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A closer look to:
the PLL:


the bios which is soldered to the mb:


go inside the bios:
ratio unlocked downward:

PCIE frequency can be locked and will be locked@100 during all my tests:

CTRL+F1 give you access to memory timings in M.I.T menu!!
vcore can be reduced below its normal value (underclocking):
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3...6copierkl4.jpg

with the first release bios F2, as MacClipper mentionned, no ratio 1:1 for fsb/ram!!!
So using a c2d fsb1066:
you will only have ratio 2.5x or 3x:
for example:
-setting fsb@266 ram can be set @667 (266x2.5) or @800 (266x3=800)
raising the fsb@400 will set the ram@1000 (400x2.5) or ram@1200 (400x3)
Using a c2d fsb800:
you will only have access to ratio 3.33x or 4x:
-setting fsb@200 the ram can be set @667 (200x3.33) or @800 (200x4)
raising fsb@333 will set ram@1108 or @1332

with an e4300:

fsb@300



Now let's play with an e6600: but according to Macclipper's feedback, i'm confident!
vcore stock, ratio locked@7x (in the bios),pcie@100, vDDR@2.0v, vMCH & vFSB@stock:
fsb@350:

fsb@360:

fsb@370:

fsb@380:

fsb@390:


all this without hiccups!!!!
And finally fsb@400

Damn impressive!

Now switch to an e4300:
vcore stock, ratio 9x,pcie@100, vDDR@2.0v, vMCH & vFSB@stock:
is it necessary to use a BSEL mod or does this mb behaves like the abit f-i90hd?
fsb@266:

fsb@300:

fsb@333 :
+ballistix 5300 vDDR@2.20v, ram@555 timings 5-5-5-15, vcore@1.45v bios!:


NO bsel mod needed!
But if you want to raise fsb@333, prepare to use some "killing rams"!
'cause ram will be set@1108: reboot in my case (did not try vDDR@2.2v yet...)

What can we conclude after this quick test:
fsb@400 is now possible in the matx c2d world!
It's clearly an abit f-i90hd killer!
The main drawback is the lack of ratio fsb/ram 1:1!!!
You will be compelled to use some very good rams if you want to o/c!This is in particular true when using a c2d fsb800 (as described above)

So, the fatal1ty still have a little advantage over the gigabyte when it comes to o/c a c2d fsb800 (due to this fsb/ram limitation), til gigabyte gives us this damned ratio 1:1!

[pengizzle]

agree with u pvhk, the missing 1:1 ration still kills it for me, especially since i want to (ab)use a E2160 with it.
How certain is it that Gigaybte can implement 1:1 ratio in the next bios? Maybe i should buy it now and hope for a new bios, or is it possible that we wont see a 1:1 ratio?

[bob511]

It's at least conceivable that an E4300 BSEL-modded to 1066MHz FSB might give you access to the 2.5x/3.0x memory multipliers, no?

Given Gigabyte boards' previous reactions to the BSEL mods I'd imagine it's not nearly a sure thing--might not even POST at all--but it seems like it might be at least a reasonable possibility.

In any case, an impressive board, especially with the potential for future BIOS feature improvements.

[pvhk]

agree with u pvhk, the missing 1:1 ration still kills it for me, especially since i want to (ab)use a E2160 with it.
How certain is it that Gigaybte can implement 1:1 ratio in the next bios? Maybe i should buy it now and hope for a new bios, or is it possible that we wont see a 1:1 ratio?

i think it will be added...

And in my opinion, this mb looks more reliable than the f-i90hd

[pvhk]

It's at least conceivable that an E4300 BSEL-modded to 1066MHz FSB might give you access to the 2.5x/3.0x memory multipliers, no?

Given Gigabyte boards' previous reactions to the BSEL mods I'd imagine it's not nearly a sure thing, but it seems like it might be at least a reasonable possibility.

In any case, an impressive board, especially with the potential for future BIOS feature improvements.

Quite agree with you!

[bob511]

Have any defogger paint left?

But this is just curiosity talking for me at this point; my E4300 can't even take much more than 3GHz at 1.575v, no way it can make use of this board.

[bob511]

Odd observation poking around with Modbin:




By default the 2.0 multiplier is set to "Not-Selectable," but Modbin lets you set change that BIOS default. Same thing with the "1066" option, though what that might do is less obvious.




Seems like it defaults to the 800MHz FSB options...?
As to whether any of this will override the default memory multiplier options, I can't say. Might be cool, though.

[MacClipper]

Argh, I have just returned the test loaner today so can anyone test if a modbin modded BIOS can make it run at 1:1. Looks like I may end up buying one in the end if 1:1 works out nicely.

[hot_fifty]

if 1:1 works - I buy it 4sure