You mean this?
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=55238
Or do you mean the repair option in Vista/Win7?
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I think the aligning thing is a non issue with Vista and up, but the rest still have to be manually done, and then back to the raid thing again, even with windows 7 if using a raid array it cant tell that your using SSD's and you gotta do all the tweaks manually (now that I think about it, im not even positive about the aligning with a raid since it doesnt know its a SSD there either)
Its new Technology and I am fully aware if the limitations, but the limitations with raid shouldn't be dismissed, since if your int he market for high end SSD's or WD Raptor drives, there is a good chance your also going to be using raid, so the limitations with that setup shouldn't be dismissed because there is work arounds for the lower performance single setup.
Last edited by Zaskar; 07-09-2009 at 06:22 AM.
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You guys are confusing recommendations with requirements. Also.. change the default allocation size? Where did you pick that up?
I have 2 vertexs running here on Win 7. Disabled nothing but the Auto Defrag.
All the posts about prefetcher, etc etc etc are for the older Gen drives. Can you point me to where we tell everyone that they MUST do this or that on their Vertex drives or they will not work right?
Stop spreading fud about the Vertex drives please, they work just fine without disabling 10 services, etc.
BTW.. alignment of the partition on XP, even improves performance slightly on a rotational hard drive, so I don't see the harm in recommending that at all. Try it on your "other" hard drive.. performance just might go up.
I meant this:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=53756
(so yes, the 'repair' then 'command-prompt' method)
This seems simpler to me, as if you were installing Vista/Win7 you'd have the setup disc, and it's just a single extra step.
EDIT: Did some replies below mine just disappear?
Last edited by XS_Rich; 07-09-2009 at 06:25 AM.
I've no idea about RAID.
Am I right in thinking that this doesn't need doing under Win7?
If so, isn't this just a case of needing a newer OS to take advantage / automatically deal with newer hardware?
Yes Intel & Samsung do it automatically, but they also carry quite a price premium. I'd be hard pressed to justify paying the extra to avoid having to diskpart the drive first.
You don't have to do it in OCZ ones either...
Just because Samsung and Intel don't have forums where they post tweaks for how you can get some free extra performance makes ocz inferior?
I just can't agree with that, besides, if you go to the ocz forums and look at the tweaks, most of them are just for Win Xp anyway.
And you can't blame ocz if raid controllers are not designed for SSDs.
No you cant, but you also cant dismiss the fact that TRIM doesn't work at all currently on RAID(and isn't even known if current motherboards or raid controllers will even be able to at all, depends if its firmware or driver support that's needed) and RAID is what the high end systems use for extra performance.
So when making a product for the enthusiast, you cant dismiss how it performs in the kinds of setups most of them will be using them in. Saying that TRIM wasn't used in the comparison to a normal HD is all fine and good, but for most of us looking to see how they will perform in a high end setup (RAID) this is the kind of thing we need to see, since the fact that you can use TRIM in lower end single drive setups is irrelevant to us.
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So which is better, use a single 60Gb drive for the OS or go with 2 x 30Gb drives in a RAID 0? I know with RAID you lose the capability of TRIM, but how necessary is that? I know Hardforum did a RAID scaling on W7 just recently and it looked like it is worth doing RAID, even if you do lose the capability of TRIM. Can't you just Clone the RAID array over to another drive, TRIM them and put the Clone back on?
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Friendos...question
From what I read the OCZ Summit has some sort of auto TRIM when the drives are in idle for a while, so would that mean that a RAID 0 array with Summits could theoretically stay fresh and not degrade?
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Idle time garbage collection, FW18C and 1901, anything prior does not have it.
Also
vertex FW 1.3 has it
Agility FW 1.3 has it
EX FW 1.20 has it
this only restores drives to 80% tops, TRIM brings them to 95%.
So listening to shintai you will be losing 15% performance for nothing
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Will win 7 properly allign a SSD if it is a non-member raid on ICH10?
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Are you sure? Seems that win7 wasn't able to identify my drive as an SSD...
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Do you have any hard drives in the system? Windows 7 may have enabled defrag to defragment those hard drives, if so. I've not installed using a SSD as a non-member when in a RAID system.
This. Have you used a tool to check your alignment? There is information on the OCZ forums on how to do so. Windows 7 should have aligned it properly.
Tool link?
I have my ICH10 set to raid with 2 vraps in raid 0 for working storage and my vertex as my os/apps drive.
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