AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[flippin_waffles]

Yup, 'nail on head', Throwed. There are those that prefer one thing, those that prefer the opposite, and those that are somewhere in between. Call it loyalty, comfort, preference, or whatever, I also will have no hardware in my computers other than AMD/ATI. And Chad, it IS exactly the same thing as having a favorite sports team, car/truck, favorite can of soup, or anything in between.

As for the Intel section, not only have I not posted in that section, but I can count the number of times i've clicked on the link on one hand.

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Oops, I see we are trying to get back on topic. OK, carry on!

[Throwed]

Hmm i thought this post was about AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread and not amd fanboism. As i have stated i am interested in the next amd cpu and interested in getting one for my next cpu if it overclocks as well as seen .. As you peaople = "forum camps" like why are you in a amd section while running a intel cpu type :-D . Alright i may be called inmature but atleased i am mature enugh to try different products .. All right dont flame me boys i did not come here and knock the amd nor even comparing them up against each other "something that seems to be common these days"...

OK, I am immature for favoring AMD yet I am mature enough to try other hardware like my Q6600 system.

Pro Intel folkz remind me of people that "Love Their Macs".

[Chad Boga]

OK, I am immature for favoring AMD yet I am mature enough to try other hardware like my Q6600 system.

If you don't blindly stick to one manufacturer, then that is a good thing, but surely when it comes to a CPU, bang for buck(which can mean a few different things to different people admittedly), should surely be the ultimate arbiter.

Pro Intel folkz remind me of people that "Love Their Macs".

Pro either side should give you that feeling.

[Macadamia]

Back to speculation

From OCWorkbench, 3Ghz Phenom II is ~512 marks faster than 3.2Ghz QX9770 assuming GPU scores are constant. However since the Phenom is leading on CPU, GPU scores should be slightly higher too, and hence the lead should be in 300-400.

But it's still 3.0 vs 3.2.

[Zucker2k]

You can "be" whatever you want and "love" what you want.. As for me I am Pro-AMD/ATI.....and will always be. If you want to be neutral and let hardware "talk"....do you. No need to call me out.....I am Pro ATI/AMD.....though most know this.


and yes, that's according to me, but I understand the world don't revole around me nor AMD/ATI....so I stay in my comfy little world called the AMD section and never go to the Intel section to steal someone elses shine. You would die and go to heaven before you see a post by me in the Intel section. I respect their hustle, but some don't seem to respect mine/other PRO-AMD enthusiast....which this section is catered to.

See the point is, nobody has denied you a post in the Intel section, you're sanctioning yourself based on your own convictions, or whatever else your motivation may be. That didn't stop you from getting a Q6600; may I ask you why? Well, it has disappeared from your sig. Is that because you feel you won't be tolerated in here with an Intel rig in your sig? :rotfl: Posting in the AMD section, or any other section for that came with my membership and I'm not going to give it up to please a couple of fanboys' delusions of demarcations on XS. The AMD section is not prohibited to people with Intel systems. Jeeeeeezzz!!

[Zucker2k]

Back to speculation

From OCWorkbench, 3Ghz Phenom II is ~512 marks faster than 3.2Ghz QX9770 assuming GPU scores are constant. However since the Phenom is leading on CPU, GPU scores should be slightly higher too, and hence the lead should be in 300-400.

But it's still 3.0 vs 3.2.

Have you ever seen pigs fly? Please wake me up when the legit reviews are posted.

[LC_Nab]

So basically Phenom II is looking more as in gaming CPU and the icore7 more as in software runing and programing and such ?
Im very curious about its new capabilities and so far is all very good , more benchies please : D

[G0ldBr1ck]

Have you ever seen pigs fly? Please wake me up when the legit reviews are posted.

When will they be legit? when they say what your wanting to hear?

[Zucker2k]

When will they be legit? when they say what your wanting to hear?

Post a link to that review and I'll show you why it's not legit.

[Chad Boga]

When will they be legit? when they say what your wanting to hear?

Perhaps when NDA has expired and all the mainstream review sites put up their reviews.

I am looking forward to reviews from The Tech Report and Anandtech.

[Macadamia]

LOL....."You people" means AMD........I guess he thinks AMD is the minority.......and this is our section.

The shocking thing is... he actually think there's a difference in "us" and "them", as if this is some sort of bull[Banana] groupthink discrimination.


Don't worry, people normally aren't what they preach, especially those with loud mouths...

[Throwed]

If you don't blindly stick to one manufacturer, then that is a good thing, but surely when it comes to a CPU, bang for buck(which can mean a few different things to different people admittedly), should surely be the ultimate arbiter.


Pro either side should give you that feeling.

Your choice isi YOUR choice. I am not refutting anything. I am simply saying this is the AMD section. If you are neutral then STFU....If you are PRO AMD then enjoy.....If you are PRO Intel....WhyTF are you in the AMD section.

Pro either side? LOL........You just don't get it.

[Macadamia]

Oh, and look what I found...

The P45 scores from a LEGIT motherboard roundup!

[Chad Boga]

Your choice isi YOUR choice. I am not refutting anything. I am simply saying this is the AMD section. If you are neutral then STFU....If you are PRO AMD then enjoy.....If you are PRO Intel....WhyTF are you in the AMD section.

Pro either side? LOL........You just don't get it.

You need to stop being so childish.

[Zucker2k]

Your choice isi YOUR choice. I am not refutting anything. I am simply saying this is the AMD section. If you are neutral then STFU....If you are PRO AMD then enjoy.....If you are PRO Intel....WhyTF are you in the AMD section.

Pro either side? LOL........You just don't get it.

Why did you get a Q6600? Your argument about being "pro" something to post in that section actually shows your immaturity. Worse than that, it shows your intolerance, and that frankly is not in good spirit with the rules of this forum.

[LC_Nab]

Says the man that started all of this >.> LOL , any ways lets go back to the good stuff ^^ more info about the Deneb please

Please stop guys I dont want this tread to be locked T_T I need the info /sob

[Eternalightwith]

Those kind of people are rare. I think you'd call them... impartial.

So according to you, one can't be neutral? You can't love a corvette zr1 and a ford gt? Well, I love both. Maybe instead of fanbois, let the hardware do the talking? Yes, I'm calling you out; (horns) peeeep, peeeep ,peeeep!

[Eternalightwith]

You couldn't have said it better. Because you know, when you really think about it, there really isn't any difference. Everyone puts their time, energy, and smarts towards a goal or achievement, whether it's a field goal, home plate, or a nifty piece of hardware.

David

Because cheering for a sporting team and using an electronic device to achieve units of work are obviously the same thing.


Wrong and nonsensical on so many levels.

[roofsniper]

Your choice isi YOUR choice. I am not refutting anything. I am simply saying this is the AMD section. If you are neutral then STFU....If you are PRO AMD then enjoy.....If you are PRO Intel....WhyTF are you in the AMD section.

Pro either side? LOL........You just don't get it.

it has been proved that he is pro intel since i have seen him troll in just about every amd thread created.

See the point is, nobody has denied you a post in the Intel section, you're sanctioning yourself based on your own convictions, or whatever else your motivation may be. That didn't stop you from getting a Q6600; may I ask you why? Well, it has disappeared from your sig. Is that because you feel you won't be tolerated in here with an Intel rig in your sig? :rotfl: Posting in the AMD section, or any other section for that came with my membership and I'm not going to give it up to please a couple of fanboys' delusions of demarcations on XS. The AMD section is not prohibited to people with Intel systems. Jeeeeeezzz!!

actually i have seen many posts with people that have intel cpus. i used to post in the watercooling section a lot and i would say the majority of the people there have intel cpus. personally i don't care. they bought what they did for a reason. and i am most likely the biggest amd fanboy you will ever see. i have never ran an intel rig before and i never will. but i am not biased towards amd.

[Chad Boga]

it has been proved that he is pro intel since i have seen him troll in just about every amd thread created.

Your concept of "proof" is appalling and the only thing you have seen is in your imagination.

i have never ran an intel rig before and i never will. but i am not biased towards amd.

[roofsniper]

Your concept of "proof" is appalling and the only thing you have seen is in your imagination.

sigh i thought you had finally stopped your anti amd comments and hostilitly towards people who run amd computers. it appears that the phrase i have quoted zucker saying is true for you based on the fact that you find every way possible to argue and dis anyone that stands up for amd. i believe there are more trolls in this thread than there are people that care about it. i really don't understand how my proof is appalling when you have no clue at all what i am talking about since i have not shown you any proof. and i don't understand how it is so funny that i have never owned an intel based computer. if you would ever take some time to think you might actually come across the idea that people run what they do for a reason. and i find it absolutely stupid to run an intel rig just because i never have before. how about you give me the money to buy an intel computer and then sure i will run it but it makes no sense to waste my money on something i don't want. so can you please just stop your trolling or just go back to the intel forums.

[Chad Boga]

i really don't understand how my proof is appalling when you have no clue at all what i am talking about since i have not shown you any proof.

You haven't shown any proof simply because there is none, that is how I know.

and i don't understand how it is so funny that i have never owned an intel based computer. if you would ever take some time to think you might actually come across the idea that people run what they do for a reason. and i find it absolutely stupid to run an intel rig just because i never have before. how about you give me the money to buy an intel computer and then sure i will run it but it makes no sense to waste my money on something i don't want.

Don't you even comprehend your own words?

Check out the highlighted part of my sig and see if the penny drops.

[roofsniper]

You haven't shown any proof simply because there is none, that is how I know.


Don't you even comprehend your own words?

Check out the highlighted part of my sig and see if the penny drops.

i could show you proof but i think i am older than 5 years old to go digging up old threads just to prove a point that means nothing. sigh i don't think you understand. just because someone will never run a competitor's parts doesn't mean that they are biased against them. i personally will never run an intel cpu but it doesn't mean that i can't understand facts. i will admit that at times intel is better than amd but i still will not run their cpus. now if i always said 24/7 amd is better than intel then yes that is biased. but no i can tell who is better and i will tell others that as well. that sir is not the definition of biased. based on the definition of bias: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias

a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment

i am not being biased. plus because i get amd cpus for free there is even more motivation to have an amd computer over an intel. so really you are just proving your ignorance over and over to me.

[Ghostbuster]

Back to speculation

From OCWorkbench, 3Ghz Phenom II is ~512 marks faster than 3.2Ghz QX9770 assuming GPU scores are constant. However since the Phenom is leading on CPU, GPU scores should be slightly higher too, and hence the lead should be in 300-400.

But it's still 3.0 vs 3.2.

The QX9770 scores at least 13K for the CPU score, and if the GPU score is constant... then the QX9770 would be faster overall.

Almost similar GPU score (about 37 pts higher only), Yorkfield Q9450 at 3.2GHz OC => http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19 gets P7593 marks.

Thus I'm not sure which score the reviewer is comparing with but definitely a sub-optimal one. Most Yorkies at 3.2GHz can touch 13K easily on the CPU score.

Other interesting comparisons..

Q9550 @ 2.8GHz with a bit lower GPU score (6581) => http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

Q6700 @ 3GHz with a bit lower GPU score (6586) => http://service.futuremark.com/result...eResultType=19

All of those are HD4850 cards...

[charged3800z24]

Ya, I remember the days when There was no Chad. When there was no talk of an AMD chip that looked to be better then the currents ones out, Before leaked slides of hitting 4ghz on air, before 6ghz+ on the new chip from AMD..

I must say I own and run a couple Chevy Cavalier z24's. They did not cost a lot, and they were not even close to the fastest/per dollar spent I could find. I prefer them over anything else, and like my AMD systems, that is what I run. It is another hobby of mine. My car is not always the fastest, but it sure is a lot of fun to take down the strip. I also prefer to run AMD, and these Phenom's are a ton of fun to tweak. Is that bad??... I do not run my computer to get a few more sec's in a particular application. It is a hobby, I enjoy tweaking, benching, etc. To some, this is a sport, and AMD might kinda be like a team to them in the respect. Let it go already.