It will be far more financially "defendable" for Global Foundries to build a new process before Intel. Intel uses their fabs internally, Global Foundries welcome anyone and will have cashcows throwing money at them.
Intel has tick-tock but what happens below 22nm when fabs will be super duper expensive to build?
It will be far more financially "defendable" for Global Foundries to build a new process before Intel. Intel uses their fabs internally, Global Foundries welcome anyone and will have cashcows throwing money at them.
Just like TSMC, and look how badly they are doing with their "40" nm process.
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Intel has tick-tock but what happens below 22nm when fabs will be super duper expensive to build?
Time will tell, but I have the impression they will survive
Even the AMD/IBM consortium was never able to keep up w/ Intel in process tech.
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Because it wasn't worth it financially.
For a company like AMD (before Global Foundries) the most profitable thing to do was use older tech, wait for a new process to mature, wait for equipment to get cheaper THEN make a move to a new process.
For a company like Intel (before Global Foundries and now) which has money, it can afford bleeding edge technology and are damn well getting it before everyone else and their mother even if it costs a limb or two to do so. Intel has to majority of shares and a good cashflow so they can move to the latest tech much faster than anyone else.
Now Global Foundries is part of the IBM consortium and will have tons of customers wanting newer processes faster. For Global Foundries it is financially worth it cause of all their clients knocking at their door step.
I am sure AMD could've had 45nm or even 32nm at the same time as Intel would they want to, but that would've been a financial suicide on their front.
Now Global Foundries is part of the IBM consortium and will have tons of customers wanting newer processes faster. For Global Foundries it is financially
IBM themselves have a large and highly advanced FAB and there's not a lot of customers knocking on their doors. Most likely, the tons of customers for GF only care about cost and performance is secondary.
For a company like AMD (before Global Foundries) the most profitable thing to do was use older tech, wait for a new process to mature, wait for equipment to get cheaper THEN make a move to a new process.
For a company like Intel (before Global Foundries and now) which has money, it can afford bleeding edge technology and are damn well getting it before everyone else and their mother even if it costs a limb or two to do so. Intel has to majority of shares and a good cashflow so they can move to the latest tech much faster than anyone else.
Now Global Foundries is part of the IBM consortium and will have tons of customers wanting newer processes faster. For Global Foundries it is financially worth it cause of all their clients knocking at their door step.
I am sure AMD could've had 45nm or even 32nm at the same time as Intel would they want to, but that would've been a financial suicide on their front.
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IBM has more cash than anyone save Intel, and they could not do it.
It's not about just money, it's about know-how, patents, and engineers.
When you factor in all of those together, no one is even close to Intel in terms of process technology. They aren't even in the same ballgame.
Oh come on. lol I think you're laying it on a little too thick, the coolaid must be affecting you! AMD was somewhere around 12 months behind intel to 45nm, but they ramp alot quicker. And like many have been saying for a while, their 45nm SOI process is top notch. Were you also one of the cheerleaders claiming AMD was doomed without HKMG?
Rumor has it, injecting $240,000 US directly into the blood stream will cure aids.
So I am positive waving tens of billions of dollars over 45nm process magically creates a superior process that only marketing guys are aware of. No need for testing or even logistically road mapping several years of steps, just a waste of time.
Oh come on. lol I think you're laying it on a little too thick, the coolaid must be affecting you! AMD was somewhere around 12 months behind intel to 45nm, but they ramp alot quicker. And like many have been saying for a while, their 45nm SOI process is top notch. Were you also one of the cheerleaders claiming AMD was doomed without HKMG?
Dude, I'm NO ONE's fanboi. The facts simply have NEVER supported anyone EVER being close to Intel in terms of process technology. In the 30+ years we have had the integrated circuit, no one has done it as good, not to mention better.
But I can understand that when your little brain cannot come up w/ a rational argument to counter me with that all you can do is call me a fanboi.
I'm a PERFORMANCE Fanboi. Period. If AMD brings the goods, I'll buy them (and do for my hosting business - we run exclusively AMD Istanbuls).
Dude, I'm NO ONE's fanboi. The facts simply have NEVER supported anyone EVER being close to Intel in terms of process technology. In the 30+ years we have had the integrated circuit, no one has done it as good, not to mention better.
But I can understand that when your little brain cannot come up w/ a rational argument to counter me with that all you can do is call me a fanboi.
I'm a PERFORMANCE Fanboi. Period. If AMD brings the goods, I'll buy them (and do for my hosting business - we run exclusively AMD Istanbuls).
LOL..... I remember you wanting to buy Nahalems.......
AMD can claim they can tackle Intel in terms of process. I mean, they're not going to say "Well, Intel won," that would just be a step in the wrong direction. Suffice it to say I'll believe AMD's on top when I see that AMD's on top.
the problem is that fabrication is the one of the least profitable business there is. back when the newest fabrication processes doubled clockspeed and were cheap to make it was a different story. intel invested $7 billion for its 32nm fab in arizona and their 45nm fab was 4 billion. thats going to be a horrible return on investment if you can only use it for 2 years.
As lower nodes for cpus come out and older fabs are retooled for those nodes, the current 45nm fabs will probably be used to make chipsets since they always seem to be one or two nodes behind their CPU's. IIRC that is how Intel gets the most out of their investment when they retool a fab. Also I do not see AMD surpassing Intel anytime soon if ever in process tech.
Dude, I'm NO ONE's fanboi. The facts simply have NEVER supported anyone EVER being close to Intel in terms of process technology. In the 30+ years we have had the integrated circuit, no one has done it as good, not to mention better.
But I can understand that when your little brain cannot come up w/ a rational argument to counter me with that all you can do is call me a fanboi.
I'm a PERFORMANCE Fanboi. Period. If AMD brings the goods, I'll buy them (and do for my hosting business - we run exclusively AMD Istanbuls).
haha chill out dude! Never really called you a fanboi, maybe you were just joining the bandwagon, whatever.
And Noone?...Never?....Ever? How was AMD's 90nm SOI process compared to intel's 90nm bulk process?
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