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    Quote Originally Posted by Micutzu View Post
    Yes, and the other results are with various drivers, it's not really useful for comparation, just to have an idea what the card can do. We'll have our review up at NDA, in 30-something minutes.
    Can't wait. Thanks for confirming, I thought I was missing something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post
    When I got my 5870, I was able to run Dirt 2 w/ 4xAA and all settings maxed at 1920x1200. I got an average of 50-55 FPS. Now, from the Cat 10.6 on, I can run Dirt 2 w/ 8xAA, all settings maxed, at 1920x1200, and have Vsync enabled because the framerate is pegged at 60 FPS the entire time.

    AMD did something pretty fantastic with their drivers I think.
    Why bother explaining to a tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    They do? That's news to me. Usually they are fixing items broken in the last release.
    Lol well that too. Just pointing out that both teams improve drivers over time, so to suggest that driver revisions will soon have the 590 ahead in perf, is not accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post
    When I got my 5870, I was able to run Dirt 2 w/ 4xAA and all settings maxed at 1920x1200. I got an average of 50-55 FPS. Now, from the Cat 10.6 on, I can run Dirt 2 w/ 8xAA, all settings maxed, at 1920x1200, and have Vsync enabled because the framerate is pegged at 60 FPS the entire time.

    AMD did something pretty fantastic with their drivers I think.
    Nope! We investigated this a while back.

    Basically, many times patches which improve performance are overlooked and instead people assume it is the drivers that have been improved.

    Case and point: DiRT 2...





    Typically, I have found that both AMD and NVIDIA drivers tend to improve performance in games which were released between driver revisions. Yes, there are some times when tweaks in the drivers expand framerates in existing games but those situations are few and far between since optimizations are usually already built in.

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    Muropaketti: GTX 590... and 6990 wins performance 6-4 and games 5-2. Eyefinity tests included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emertX View Post
    Just OC is important!!!
    My 580's in SLI laugh about that!

    "My 580's in SLI laugh about that" well you did spend $1,000 so it should perform better vs the single newest nvidia card....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Funny, I have talked to several reviewers about this and out of the ~13 cards we all have, none has died in situations where the default voltage was adhered to...

    Methinks something is going on there in Europe.
    Yeah it's probably reviewers here getting retail cards instead of cherry picked ones straight from nV HQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Nope! We investigated this a while back.

    Basically, many times patches which improve performance are overlooked and instead people assume it is the drivers that have been improved.

    Case and point: DiRT 2...





    Typically, I have found that both AMD and NVIDIA drivers tend to improve performance in games which were released between driver revisions. Yes, there are some times when tweaks in the drivers expand framerates in existing games but those situations are few and far between since optimizations are usually already built in.
    I stand corrected. Codemasters did something fantastic with their game patch.
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    At least nVidia is competitive on the high end single card now, they haven't been in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo75 View Post
    Yeah it's probably reviewers here getting retail cards instead of cherry picked ones straight from nV HQ.
    I don't think that is the case since there was a good mix of retail and non-retail samples in the people I talked to. However, only time will tell if this is a true "issue" or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Nope! We investigated this a while back.

    Basically, many times patches which improve performance are overlooked and instead people assume it is the drivers that have been improved.

    Case and point: DiRT 2...




    Typically, I have found that both AMD and NVIDIA drivers tend to improve performance in games which were released between driver revisions. Yes, there are some times when tweaks in the drivers expand framerates in existing games but those situations are few and far between since optimizations are usually already built in.

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    agree with you %100,yet ati always seemed to be plauged by drivers and certain games but on paper(tech specs)ATI always made a better card then Nvidia.Nvidia(and now intel)always stay VERY close to game developers vs ATI and Nvidia makes it a point to have drivers out for before the game is even released.this is how Nvidia makes up for the hardware dept,and why as a gamer stay with Nvidia cards(plug and play,no headaches).and this is why i stick with nvidia and a gamer.i need it to run my new game "out of the box" no waiting for new drivers or releases,fixes,etc.

    **i dont like this news :P here**
    "NVIDIA's dual-GPU GeForce GTX 590 emerges, can't slay the Radeon HD 6990 titan"

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/

    *****
    cpu scaling--
    now lets take video card out of the equation for 1 minute and just look at 1 thing u did not mention.cpu scaling,cpu overclocking giving a direct FPS increase in certain games.this info is simply mind blowing.


    Call of Duty: Black Ops GPU & CPU Performance In-depth-by "techspot"

    "Black Ops on the other hand saw a massive 78% increase in performance when clocking our Core i7 processor from 2.0GHz up to 4.0GHz, and we continued to see a performance increase right up to the maximum tested frequency. Both the minimum and average frame rates were affected, suggesting that users who are in need of better performance will want to overclock their processor for this game."
    http://www.techspot.com/review/336-c...nce/page7.html


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    Predictably few Dragon Age 2 benchmarks around.



    I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo75 View Post
    Predictably few Dragon Age 2 benchmarks around.



    I wonder why?


    "I wonder why?"
    ATI make better cards(on paper),yes i said it as i prefer and buy Nvidia cards for the stabilty,no bugs on games i play(quake 4,bf2-the orignal w all mapacks,mw1,mw2,blk ops,bf2-bad company(sucks-bad game play,played for 8hours,unistalled).the 6990 has 4 gigs of gddr5 on it,jeez...props to ATI as that is AMAZING for hi res gamers like myself running on my Sony 24in FW-900 moniters(2304x1440 16:10 80hz 80 fps).ati rocked this one and the ram(4gigs!?!?!) plays a CRUCIAL role for hi res gaming,its been proven.oh forgot to mention the crazy stock clocks on the dual gpus...ATI did good with this round.props!



    "NVIDIA's dual-GPU GeForce GTX 590 emerges, can't slay the 4gig Radeon HD 6990 titan"

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/
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    HardOCP (Kyle?) isn't impressed with the GTX 590.

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/..._card_review/9

    We truly thought the GTX 590 was going to make the Radeon 6990 look bad, but the fact of the matter is that NVIDIA made the 6990 look that much better. The GTX 590 is not the "World's Fastest Single Card Solution" as stated on our page 1 slides; the Radeon HD 6990 is very much retaining that title. Hail to the King, baby!
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    Geforce GTX 590 burns @ SweClockers.com - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1...re=fe%C2%ADedu

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    SKYMTL, this one specific example I would highlight:

    Within our review of the HD 6990 we mentioned that a strong driver stack is a must for any dual GPU product. Without quick SLI support for new games, the GTX 590 will be dead in the water. A good example of this was the GTX 590’s performance in Just Cause 2 where framerates took an unexpectedly plunge at higher resolutions with AA enabled. This in effect had a profound impact upon the 2560 x 1600 / 8x AA results we have above. Hopefully a situation like this is the exception rather than an omen of things to come.
    As with every other multi core graphics cards, the success or failure of the HD 6990 largely hinges on AMD’s driver development team stepping up to the plate in a big way. As we saw in testing, its mission accomplished….for now. If they can keep this head of steam going and roll out application profiles in rapid order as the busy spring gaming season heats up, then early adopters should have nothing to fear. However, if Crossfire support for new games trickles out months after release, Antilles’ design could be rendered ineffective in short order. It should also be mentioned that while driver stability was spot-on, the Catalyst Control Center is another matter altogether and if you’re upgrading from a previous AMD card, be ready to face some possible issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    SKYMTL, this one specific example I would highlight:


    "As with every other multi core graphics cards, the success or failure of the HD 6990 largely hinges on AMD’s driver development team stepping up to the plate in a big way. As we saw in testing, its mission accomplished….for now. If they can keep this head of steam going and roll out application profiles in rapid order as the busy spring gaming season heats up, then early adopters should have nothing to fear. However, if Crossfire support for new games trickles out months after release, Antilles’ design could be rendered ineffective in short order. It should also be mentioned that while driver stability was spot-on, the Catalyst Control Center is another matter altogether and if you’re upgrading from a previous AMD card, be ready to face some possible issues."


    drivers.....bleh....both such nice cards.sad
    http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/n...ay-the-radeon/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo75 View Post
    I wonder why?
    Because the DX11 version is broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
    Because the DX11 version is broken?
    Civ 5 has been broken since release (how many times have you seen the 560 or 570 beat the 580 for example?) yet it didn't stop every website benching it from day 1, and continuing to do so.

    Wonder why that was too?

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    I would like to see how far 590 6990 overclock
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaktus1907 View Post


    like this
    It's a quiet dual-GPU solution, and it's dual-GTX 580 cores (albeit slower). I agree that the GTX 590 is innovative. I just wish it was slightly faster.
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