X3350 Arrival

[RunawayPrisoner]

That's about my last results: 487 stable at 1.344v.

But you may want to watch out for the northbridge volt.

[zoob]

After killing my Maximus Formula, I tossed my X3350 into my P5E-VM HDMI.
Also did the pencil vdroop mod and now:
VCORE BIOS set 1.3875 V
Full load CPU-Z 1.344 V

much better than BIOS set 1.525 V for 1.3360 V heh.

[Kensek]

Sold my first OEM X3350 for $400. Picked up a Retail version for $339.
This one Core 2 runs 16C hotter than the coolest core. Whereas the first OEM only had an 8C Spread over the 4 cores. Howver this run ones at 3.840 (480x8) with less VCore and FSB Vtt.

Tried this X3350 in a Maximus, a Rampage and a P5E3 Premium. Core 2 runs a lot hotter than the others. But it out performs the first X3350 which ran cooler. OH Well, the retail version has a 3 year warranty.

Here are my 3D Screen shots and ORB Link.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6479455

[Kensek]

Here is Pic from the first X3350.

[bryanw1995]

Here is my q9450 results. I haven't dialed in any of the voltages yet and I haven't tried going higher. I dumped a GA-EX38-DS4 for a IP-35 Pro. Wow, I didn't realize how much Gigabyte sucks these days.

x264 HD BENCHMARK RESULTS

Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 75.09 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 76.21 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 76.40 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 75.77 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.75 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.79 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.79 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.68 fps, 3952.85 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 82.32 fps, 3887.28 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 82.25 fps, 3889.36 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 82.33 fps, 3891.41 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 82.10 fps, 3889.35 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.29 fps, 3963.28 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.32 fps, 3962.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.32 fps, 3962.86 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.36 fps, 3962.81 kb/s


System Details
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Name Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
Codename Yorkfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz
Core Stepping C1
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Core Speed 3600.2 MHz (8.0 x 450.0 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 8.0x

Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02

CAS# 5.0
RAS# to CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Command Rate 2T
Memory Frequency 450.0 MHz (1:1)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4094 MBytes
Channels Dual (Symmetric)

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)

max VID 1.200 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.35 Volts [0xA9] (VIN0)
Voltage sensor 0 1.30 Volts [0x82] (CPU Core)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

Temperature sensor 0 52°C (125°F) [0x34] (CPU)
Temperature sensor 1 29°C (84°F) [0x1D] (System)
Temperature sensor 2 52°C (125°F) [0x34] (PWM)
Temperature sensor 3 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 2)
Temperature sensor 4 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 3)
Temperature sensor 5 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 4)
Temperature sensor 6 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 5)
Temperature sensor 0 64°C (147°F) [0x29] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 68°C (154°F) [0x25] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 65°C (148°F) [0x28] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 64°C (147°F) [0x29] (core #3)

I have HDT-S1283 but I'm not sure I have it mounted too well as the heatpipes don't seem to warm up.

I got almost identical results... go figure, since I have an x3350 with a 1.20 vid on an ip35 pro What are your cpuvtt, mch, ichio, and ich?

btw, notice that our temps are very similar, too. I believe that graysky is using coretemp's 105c tjmax assumption instead of realtemp's 95c tjmax. Will verify with him and report back.

Here are my #'s:

Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.36 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 76.52 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.20 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.38 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.31 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.22 fps, 3953.18 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 83.67 fps, 3886.60 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 82.92 fps, 3888.80 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 83.90 fps, 3889.39 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 83.59 fps, 3889.25 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.93 fps, 3963.77 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.85 fps, 3963.27 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.87 fps, 3963.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.01 fps, 3962.55 kb/s


System Details
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Name Intel Xeon X3350
Codename Yorkfield
Specification Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3350 @ 2.66GHz
Core Stepping C1
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Core Speed 3600.0 MHz (8.0 x 450.0 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 8.0x

Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02

CAS# 5.0
RAS# to CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18
Command Rate 2T
Memory Frequency 540.0 MHz (5:6)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Channels Dual (Symmetric)

Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

max VID 1.200 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.09 Volts [0x88] (VIN0)
Voltage sensor 0 1.28 Volts [0x80] (CPU Core)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

Temperature sensor 0 53°C (127°F) [0x35] (CPU)
Temperature sensor 1 28°C (82°F) [0x1C] (System)
Temperature sensor 2 50°C (121°F) [0x32] (PWM)
Temperature sensor 3 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 2)
Temperature sensor 4 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 3)
Temperature sensor 5 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 4)
Temperature sensor 6 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 5)
Temperature sensor 0 68°C (154°F) [0x25] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 3 66°C (150°F) [0x27] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 2 64°C (147°F) [0x29] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 1 63°C (145°F) [0x2A] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 0 33°C (91°F) [0x21] (GPU Core)

[Imitation]

I got almost identical results... go figure, since I have an x3350 with a 1.20 vid on an ip35 pro What are your cpuvtt, mch, ichio, and ich?

btw, notice that our temps are very similar, too. I believe that graysky is using coretemp's 105c tjmax assumption instead of realtemp's 95c tjmax. Will verify with him and report back.

Here are my #'s:

Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.36 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 77.10 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 76.52 fps, 3904.62 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.20 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.38 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.31 fps, 3953.18 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.22 fps, 3953.18 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 83.67 fps, 3886.60 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 82.92 fps, 3888.80 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 83.90 fps, 3889.39 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 83.59 fps, 3889.25 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.93 fps, 3963.77 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.85 fps, 3963.27 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.87 fps, 3963.56 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.01 fps, 3962.55 kb/s


System Details
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Name Intel Xeon X3350
Codename Yorkfield
Specification Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3350 @ 2.66GHz
Core Stepping C1
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Core Speed 3600.0 MHz (8.0 x 450.0 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 8.0x

Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02

CAS# 5.0
RAS# to CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18
Command Rate 2T
Memory Frequency 540.0 MHz (5:6)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Channels Dual (Symmetric)

Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

max VID 1.200 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.09 Volts [0x88] (VIN0)
Voltage sensor 0 1.28 Volts [0x80] (CPU Core)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

Temperature sensor 0 53°C (127°F) [0x35] (CPU)
Temperature sensor 1 28°C (82°F) [0x1C] (System)
Temperature sensor 2 50°C (121°F) [0x32] (PWM)
Temperature sensor 3 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 2)
Temperature sensor 4 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 3)
Temperature sensor 5 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 4)
Temperature sensor 6 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (PWM Phase 5)
Temperature sensor 0 68°C (154°F) [0x25] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 3 66°C (150°F) [0x27] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 2 64°C (147°F) [0x29] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 1 63°C (145°F) [0x2A] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 0 33°C (91°F) [0x21] (GPU Core)

I've also got a X3350 in an IP35 pro and I have had SERIOUS issues getting it stable at anything over 450fsb. I've pushed voltages up much higher than what i needed for 3.56ghz and stability is still hard to come by at 3.6+

What program did you guys use to get that data dump you posted here?

[trans am]

525 fsb last night on p5e-vm hdmi
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...91#post2955691

[ChaosMinionX]

Sold my first OEM X3350 for $400. Picked up a Retail version for $339.
This one Core 2 runs 16C hotter than the coolest core. Whereas the first OEM only had an 8C Spread over the 4 cores. Howver this run ones at 3.840 (480x8) with less VCore and FSB Vtt.

Tried this X3350 in a Maximus, a Rampage and a P5E3 Premium. Core 2 runs a lot hotter than the others. But it out performs the first X3350 which ran cooler. OH Well, the retail version has a 3 year warranty.

Here are my 3D Screen shots and ORB Link.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6479455

How in the hell did you get 3.8ghz? Haha, hopefully my new X3350 does the same

[mibo]

Sold my first OEM X3350 for $400. Picked up a Retail version for $339.
This one Core 2 runs 16C hotter than the coolest core. Whereas the first OEM only had an 8C Spread over the 4 cores. Howver this run ones at 3.840 (480x8) with less VCore and FSB Vtt.

Tried this X3350 in a Maximus, a Rampage and a P5E3 Premium. Core 2 runs a lot hotter than the others. But it out performs the first X3350 which ran cooler. OH Well, the retail version has a 3 year warranty.

Here are my 3D Screen shots and ORB Link.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6479455

Which of the boards performed best with your 45nm quad?

[doodah10]

Got my Rampage Formula with X3350 to 3.8 too.

[ChaosMinionX]

Got my Rampage Formula with X3350 to 3.8 too.

What BIOS revision?

And has anyone tested 0401 RF and 1201 MF for 45nm Quad clocking enhancements?

[Kensek]

The Asus Rampage Formula is the board to have is you want to OC to the Max a X3350 or any CPU. It has the most BIOS parameters that can be tweaked.

The P5E3 Premium runs into instability issues above 450FSB. I believe it is due to the Asus EPU Energy Savings Feature. Plus it does not have all of the Bios features that are within the Rampages BIOS.

And the Maximus ran into stability issues above 440FSB.

Thinking of picking up a FoxConn Blackops when they come out. Really want an X48 Mobo that uses DDR3 that can OC to at least 480FSB like the Rampage Formula. The P5E3 Premium wasn't the Mobo that could do that.

[situman]

What BIOS revision?

And has anyone tested 0401 RF and 1201 MF for 45nm Quad clocking enhancements?

mine was with the shipping bios 0209 or something like that

[zoob]

What the hell!!

My multiplier got stuck at 6 even though I forced it to 8 in BIOS.

I was playing around with my pencilled vDroop mod and bam! my computer rebooted (bad idea to do this live I guess haha), but I wanted to monitor how much my vCore was changing.

Cleaned it up, re-did it, and now my multi is stuck at 6 even though when I boot it shows up as 3.8 GHz 475x8, in Windows it's 475x6... argh!

Temperatures are still great too, and I put a fan over the MOSFETs in case it was throttling itself (much like my P5K-VM did before it exploded with a Q6600 in there).


EDIT:

I disabled TM2 and now it's 8x475. Weeeeird.

[Leeghoofd]

Disable EIST and co you will be dine if the board posts at 3.8Ghz you didn't have all energy saving features disabled... I got the inverse lol I set 11 multi and yet it only posted with 9x due to bios issues...

[LostHawk]

What BIOS revision?

And has anyone tested 0401 RF and 1201 MF for 45nm Quad clocking enhancements?

I am using bios 0401 now. I don't really see a change.
I tried to see if my overclock was still stable with a safe FSB VTT but nope.
Someone else succeeded to be stable at 3.8GHz with that voltage at 1.31V though so it's probably my chip.
It seems I could boot at 4GHz more easily with 0401...

This rig is a bit busy atm so I can't run stability tests for hours like before.
We need a new guinea pig

[zoob]

I was able to get my 3.8 GHz back after disabling the thermal throttling, but something's unstable with my overclock.. When I checked my computer this morning it looked as if it was rebooted (fresh Windows desktop, no apps running). I'm -hoping- it was Windows auto-updates but I can't be certain.

[T2k]

The Asus Rampage Formula is the board to have is you want to OC to the Max a X3350 or any CPU. It has the most BIOS parameters that can be tweaked.

The P5E3 Premium runs into instability issues above 450FSB. I believe it is due to the Asus EPU Energy Savings Feature. Plus it does not have all of the Bios features that are within the Rampages BIOS.

And the Maximus ran into stability issues above 440FSB.

Thinking of picking up a FoxConn Blackops when they come out. Really want an X48 Mobo that uses DDR3 that can OC to at least 480FSB like the Rampage Formula. The P5E3 Premium wasn't the Mobo that could do that.

This is nonsense, Maximus runs fine up to $75-480 or even higher with any other CPU than these Penryns and you can use Rampage BIOS in Maximus (not a surprise, they are exactly the same chipset).
It's time for ASUS to release a fix for Maximus or come forward and admit they simply screwed us and they don't give a *&^% about it anymore.

[FiXeR]

My P5E (Flashed to Rampage) still has 450Mhz FSB problems. What tricks can I try to get my X3360 over the FSB Limit?

I have the latest beta bios (308)

[ChaosMinionX]

My P5E (Flashed to Rampage) still has 450Mhz FSB problems. What tricks can I try to get my X3360 over the FSB Limit?

I have the latest beta bios (308)

Try 0401 on Rampage and see if FSB overclocking with 45nm Quads improved any?

[ic3m4n2005]

Anyone got a L808 Batch here ?

[T2k]

Cool now all we need to do is wait for ASUS to fix this in 6 months.

Well, 1 month later other than some remote hearsay/rumor still no sign of ASUS actually giving a flying about this whole story...

[zoob]

Tried two different P5E-VM HDMI motherboards ... it's a little more stable but still reboots after extended period of gaming. Dropped the OC down a notch (8x467@1.336V load) to see if it'll help... D:

[irenic]

asus is too busy focusing on producing + releasing a lots of version of motherboard... after launching, then they just simply ignore the after sales support... :|
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[FiXeR]

asus is too busy focusing on producing + releasing a lots of version of motherboard... after launching, then they just simply ignore the after sales support... :|
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Not true! Someone that I know has the same FSB problem with his Asus motherboard. He mailed to the bios department and they are testing right now what it could be. He received some beta bioses and Asus is very busy with testing and finding the problem.