How to install the AMD X2 drivers, hotfix, the correct way.

[GAR]

This is at @ woicer

reinstall windows man, the fix to everything!!!!!!! but before try reinstalling your drivers to your video card.........go intothe bios and optimize.

[osiris999]

if your talking about your e6600 then your in the wrong thread

[madcho]

if your talking about your e6600 then your in the wrong thread

he talk about his 4400+

[MagicMan]

Hi guys,

I have followed the steps given, which have been very helpful, but it still has not completely sorted my problem and wondering if any of you guys could help me a bit more. I have a dual core AMD X2 4400+ @ FX60 (stable) and i play a lot of UT2004 as its my favorite game, but i have a slight lag while I'm playing (it isn't because of over clocking as it's the same at stock) . I have installed the the MS hot fix and AMD optimizer and they have helped to sort the stuttering a little, but still not smooth with stuttering at certain points. I have tryed everything, including formatting my HDD quite a few times. When i do things in windows everything runs smooth and i also do a lot of video editing and that runs fine as well. Other games like quake 4, HL2, doom3 seem to run ok, but it does feel like doom 3 isn't playing as well as it should, but maybe its just my imagination LOL. My other specs are:-

A8N32-SLi Deluxe
2 gigs of rams
2 x 6600gt ( I'm getting a 8800gtx for Christmas, maybe the stuttering might go away with that )
X-FI sound card
enermax 500w
2 x 160gb maxtor and WD raptor 74gb HDD

My other hardware is fully working and i know there not broken as I've tested them all, i don't know why the patches aren't working for me as the seem to work with a lot of other people . I'm starting to think i should go back to single core but i really want to keep my X2. I never had any problems with my pc about 4 weeks ago until i upgraded my CPU. Also all drivers are the latest and i have the newest mobo bios.

Sorry for the long post, but i hope some of you guys could help me if you have any other ideas.

Any help is much appreciated, thanks for your time .

[woicer]

This is at @ woicer

Okay, i play Battlefield 2142. First time i used this computer, it worked fine.
I played the demo and the full version with no problems and high FPS.
But one day was getting self suddenly lows fps so self formats the computer.
I installed battlefield 2142, but whot? still low fps, so i begin to search on the internet to find a answar on my 'low fps' question, and now, im here.
I think the 'low fps' problem is for my dual core processor.
I think my computer will complete BF2142 with no problems:

haha, yes its correct
do you know why?

[benne]

I just installed the AMD Dual Core Optimizer - it really works! (I had already done the other steps before - but I did not know about the Optimizer until I read this thread). Games now run much smoother - Thanks!!

JUST ONE THING:

There is a known compatibility issue with the Dual Core Optimizer and older versions of d-tools. When I first installed the Optimizer it put my machine into a restart loop - I noticed it restarted when it would usually load d-tools and checked on their website for info and it turns out they have recently released an update that fixes it. You can install the update from www.daemon-tools.cc/ - I believe the problem actually lies in the SPTD driver supplied with d-tools, a newer version of this driver can be found here http://www.duplexsecure.com/ (should you not want to upgrade d-tools).

If anyone else has this problem and is in the restart loop - just load windows using "the last settings that worked" (or something similar) from the boot menu (F8 at startup). Then just update d-tools and reinstall the optimizer.

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, I didn't have time to read the whole thread - perhaps the issue should be noted in the guide for others that may have the problem.

[Raybo]

I have had zero problems from the get go.

I did DL the MS optimizer but other than that it's clear sailing.

[Kakarot_ALX]

Hy guys.
Got my system a few weeks back : x2 3800+,MSI K9NU neo-v,1Gb Kingmax 667,Seagate 160Gb Sata 2.....
And since then nothing but trouble. I have tried the fix ilustrated in the fisrst page but nothing has changed.
I am expierencing problems in Warcraft , Gothic 2,3 and NFSU2 .I am at wits end. Is there any other solution , than maybe the waranty ?

[Raybo]

Hy guys.
Got my system a few weeks back : x2 3800+,MSI K9NU neo-v,1Gb Kingmax 667,Seagate 160Gb Sata 2.....
And since then nothing but trouble. I have tried the fix ilustrated in the fisrst page but nothing has changed.
I am expierencing problems in Warcraft , Gothic 2,3 and NFSU2 .I am at wits end. Is there any other solution , than maybe the waranty ?

What timings on your ram?

[Kakarot_ALX]

Everything stock. The timings are 5-5-5-15....... 2T with 1.85 V ( the ram voltage is blocked)
I am realy desperate.

[Mr Dead]

Just installed Vista 32bit Ultimate, so should I installed any of these drivers or not?

[GAR]

Just installed Vista 32bit Ultimate, so should I installed any of these drivers or not?

No, this is only for windows XP.

[Titus]

AMD has released a new version, 1.1.1 of their Dual Core Optimizer utility. The latest version of this utility adds WHQL certification and includes a new 'gaming mode' for 4x4 motherboards...

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html

Edit: how do I run this Optimizer?...do I have to do anything special?...I ran the setup file, rebooted and don't see the program installed anywhere...is it listed in Device Manager?...how can I verify that it is installed and working properly?

[csimon]

AMD has released a new version, 1.1.1 of their Dual Core Optimizer utility. The latest version of this utility adds WHQL certification and includes a new 'gaming mode' for 4x4 motherboards...

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html

Edit: how do I run this Optimizer?...do I have to do anything special?...I ran the setup file, rebooted and don't see the program installed anywhere...is it listed in Device Manager?...how can I verify that it is installed and working properly?

control panel>add remove programs>dual-core optimizer.
It's there but who knows what it does or how/if it works.

[showmanlkz]

Edit: how do I run this Optimizer?...do I have to do anything special?...I ran the setup file, rebooted and don't see the program installed anywhere...is it listed in Device Manager?...how can I verify that it is installed and working properly?

it does install something, you can find a AMD icon and two text files in installation folder.

I assume only in 4X4 system will use that AMD icon? In normal dual core system we dont need to do anything?

[arfett]

Anyone know why I'm getting this error when I attempt to install the AMD dual core driver?

[ahwai]

look like there new fix from MS , anyone try it ?????

please let us know if u install it and how is it

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...EFFBE#Overview

[RPGWiZaRD]

There's in fact 2 new hotfixes, that one you listed above is some sort of a new patch, didn't impact on speed for me (unsure if there's any noticable difference in any way yet) but this one gave a 1~4% increase depending on application (already had the old hotfix installed):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...8-34FB8A0FCE3B

Overview

Install this update to fix a situation where your Windows-based system that supports processor power management features, and is equipped with multiple processors, may experience decreased performance. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

It's both for Intel and AMD, is replacing the old "WinXPdualcorehotfix.exe" and I've heard it helped some Conroe owners already too.

And here's some "real-world" comparision using PCSX2 PS2 emulator which IMO is the perfect test as this emulator is very CPU dependant in majority of the games (and RAM latency / tight timings matters somewhat too) while gfx card can even be downclocked severly in lots of games without an FPS drop depending on CPU & gfx card combo, thus making it a perfect test for changes that applies to CPU performance:

before


after


(That's from FF12 FYI)

[NightCrawler™]

Interesting..... I've installed that patch and the system seems a lot more responsive....

[ahwai]

There's in fact 2 new hotfixes, that one you listed above is some sort of a new patch, didn't impact on speed for me (unsure if there's any noticable difference in any way yet) but this one gave a 1~4% increase depending on application (already had the old hotfix installed):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...8-34FB8A0FCE3B

Overview

Install this update to fix a situation where your Windows-based system that supports processor power management features, and is equipped with multiple processors, may experience decreased performance. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

It's both for Intel and AMD, is replacing the old "WinXPdualcorehotfix.exe" and I've heard it helped some Conroe owners already too.

And here's some "real-world" comparision using PCSX2 PS2 emulator which IMO is the perfect test as this emulator is very CPU dependant in majority of the games (and RAM latency / tight timings matters somewhat too) while gfx card can even be downclocked severly in lots of games without an FPS drop depending on CPU & gfx card combo, thus making it a perfect test for changes that applies to CPU performance:

before


after


(That's from FF12 FYI)

THX for let me know
Mirror download KB896256 All Language
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-s...ors_Hotfix.zip

[RPGWiZaRD]

I've been experimenting a little in which order you should install these to get best performance as it seems to vary a bit now with these new patches added. But this works best for me (yes I've even formatted 3 times and reinstalled windows too ):

1) AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 / Opteron™ Dual Core Processor Driver (note there's an "Opteron" driver too in Opteron driver section which I usually pick for my Opteron 165 altho I think it doesn't matter if you pick the X2 driver or Opteron as it seems to be the same package)
2) Hotfix KB924441
3) Hotfix KB896256 (newer version of windows dual core hotfix, it's got same code as the old one and you don't need/shouldn't install that one anymore as this seems to provide slightly better performance even)
4) AMD Dual-Core Optimizer (the updated one released in November)

[pcfreak]

THX for let me know
Mirror download KB896256 All Language
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-s...ors_Hotfix.zip

just downloaded it but it has WindowsXP-KB896256-v3-x86-xxx.exe
so use direct link instead

edit: the only option I get is to install it but I need it for a fresh install so can someone host the WindowsXP-KB896256-v4-x86-ENU.exe file?

[jonicadalton]

Installed the latest one just now and it worked fine. I also installed the latest AMD Optimizer prior.

I don't notice a difference but that's just based on my observations and has no scientific basis whatsoever.

[800ster]

I've been experimenting a little in which order you should install these to get best performance as it seems to vary a bit now with these new patches added. But this works best for me (yes I've even formatted 3 times and reinstalled windows too ):

1) AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 / Opteron™ Dual Core Processor Driver (note there's an "Opteron" driver too in Opteron driver section which I usually pick for my Opteron 165 altho I think it doesn't matter if you pick the X2 driver or Opteron as it seems to be the same package)
2) Hotfix KB924441
3) Hotfix KB896256 (newer version of windows dual core hotfix, it's got same code as the old one and you don't need/shouldn't install that one anymore as this seems to provide slightly better performance even)
4) AMD Dual-Core Optimizer (the updated one released in November)

From looking at the MS KB articles is seems that KB896256 contains older versions of all the files that are in KB924441. I would have thought it was best to switch (2) & (3)?

KB896256
Date Time Version Size File name
--------------------------------------------------------------
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 134,272 Halmacpi.dll
29-Sep-2005 00:02 5.1.2600.2765 2,136,064 Ntkrnlmp.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2,057,344 Ntkrnlpa.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2,015,744 Ntkrpamp.exe
29-Sep-2005 00:04 5.1.2600.2765 2,180,096 Ntoskrnl.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:32 5.1.2600.2765 30,720 Arpidfix.exe

KB924441
File name File version File size Date Time Platform
Ntkrnlmp.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,137,600 12-Oct-2006 12:26
Ntkrnlpa.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,059,136 12-Oct-2006 11:45
Ntkrpamp.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,017,280 12-Oct-2006 11:45
Ntoskrnl.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,181,888 12-Oct-2006 12:28

So it might be in your case that it works best because you have not in fact applied KB924441?
I shall experiment myself when I have time but anybody else got any feedback on these hotfixes?

[NightCrawler™]

edit: the only option I get is to install it but I need it for a fresh install so can someone host the WindowsXP-KB896256-v4-x86-ENU.exe file?

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...v4-x86-ENU.exe