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04-20-2006, 04:32 AM
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Xtreme Addict
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Thermaltake Tidewater?
After reading tons of reviews that all say VERY diferent things about the thing I am wondering if anyone has this or has tried this. If I were to buy this it would cool my 1900xtx and I would not overvolt, but would up the core as far as it'll go on stock volts. Some reviews say 50max laod others say 75... really confused. The reason I am not going with a real wcing system is because its too much of a hassle to fit it all in my case and ti'll be twice the cost. Anyone know something about this that i should?
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04-20-2006, 04:40 AM
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Xtreme Cruncher
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Loughborough, UK
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Just looked at a couple of reviews, given that it holds X800 series cards to 45-50 deg C full load at stock, I wouldnt bother with it for an X1900XTX. It might deliver better temps than the stock cooler, but not by much so its price/performance ratio would suck IMHO.
Not sure what pricing is like in Canada but in the UK the Tidewater is £50 and £75 gets me:
Eheim 600lph pump/res station
Alphacool 120mm rad
Alphacool 7800/x1800xl block
2m 10/8m tubing
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Last edited by [XC]Atomicpineapple; 04-20-2006 at 04:51 AM.
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04-20-2006, 04:55 AM
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Xtreme Mentor
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Athens, Greece
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Don't bother with it. Your X1900xtx will be better with the stock cooler.
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Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel I7 920 D0 3930A @ 4.35GHz (20 X 217mhz) WC'ed
3 x 2GB G.Skill Trident 1600 @ 1740MHz (7-8-7-20-1T)
Asus 4870X2 @ 850/950MHz WC'ed
150gb Western Digital Velociraptor | 2 x 320gb Western Digital Caviar SE16 Raid0 | Seagate FreeAgent XTreme 1.5TB esata
Logitech Z-5500 | LG W2600HP 26" S-IPS LCD
MountainMods UFO | Zalman ZM-850HP psu
Watercooling setup:
1st loop -> Radiator: ThermoChill PA 120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC Ultra with Alphacool top | CPU: Swiftech Apogee XT |Chipset: Swiftech MCW-NBMAX | Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
2nd loop -> Radiator: XSPC RX240 | Pump: Laing DDC Pro with Alphacool top |GPU: EK FC-4870X2| Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
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04-20-2006, 11:40 AM
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Xtreme Addict
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Location: Ottawa, Canada
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I am doing this mostly for silence though...
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04-20-2006, 02:04 PM
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Xtreme Mentor
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It's your call.
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Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel I7 920 D0 3930A @ 4.35GHz (20 X 217mhz) WC'ed
3 x 2GB G.Skill Trident 1600 @ 1740MHz (7-8-7-20-1T)
Asus 4870X2 @ 850/950MHz WC'ed
150gb Western Digital Velociraptor | 2 x 320gb Western Digital Caviar SE16 Raid0 | Seagate FreeAgent XTreme 1.5TB esata
Logitech Z-5500 | LG W2600HP 26" S-IPS LCD
MountainMods UFO | Zalman ZM-850HP psu
Watercooling setup:
1st loop -> Radiator: ThermoChill PA 120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC Ultra with Alphacool top | CPU: Swiftech Apogee XT |Chipset: Swiftech MCW-NBMAX | Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
2nd loop -> Radiator: XSPC RX240 | Pump: Laing DDC Pro with Alphacool top |GPU: EK FC-4870X2| Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
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04-20-2006, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Invest the money in a real water cooling solution.
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i7 950 4.4GHz 200 x 22 1.35 volts | Cooled by Swiftech GTZ - CPX-Pro - MCR320+MCR220 | Completely Silent loads at 66c
GTX 260 EVGA SuperClocked Plain stock
12 Gigs OCZ Reaper DDR3 1600MHz) 8-8-8-24
ASUS Rampage Gene II | Xigmatek Northbridge cooler mounted to the stock system.
OCZ Vertex RAID-0(60Gig x 2) | WD 1000Gig Storage
Enermax Liberty 620| With a low speed yate, the stock ball bearing fan crapped out after 1 year of service.
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04-20-2006, 02:33 PM
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Xtreme Guru
Join Date: Jul 2005
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get a Swiftech Storm
and everything else from Danger Den website trust me, if you can!
Don't worry about a res. just do a T line in your loop. For me although sloopy looking I did a 6' loop (longer then most peeps). It's longer because it holds more coolant, thus keeping your CPU cooler. If you do a short loop 3' or less I suggest you get a res as the added coolant will help more then just relying on the Rad w/fan only, IMO.
I say this because I did some investigating and it paid off in the end (6' long loop). It pays to have more coolant with your WC then anything else.
Goal:
Is to get your CPU, GPU or CPU/GPU as close to ambient temps as possible. Once you get it below ambient temps under load you are getting some extreme cooling without a phase...
Koolance Exos-2> Thermaltake at watercooling
Just my 2 coppers worth.
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Last edited by Eastcoasthandle; 04-20-2006 at 02:37 PM.
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04-20-2006, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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i dont belive you! show me!
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Originally Posted by Jimmer411
Tho personally Iam wishing I had more girth than length. This skinny thing I got just dont get the job done anymore. The wife agrees.
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04-20-2006, 02:39 PM
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Xtreme Addict
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Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
get a Swiftech Storm
and everything else from Danger Den website trust me, you can't go wrong!
Don't worry about a res. just do a T line in your loop. For me although sloopy looking I did a 6' loop (longer then most peeps). It's longer because it holds more coolant, thus keeping your CPU cooler. If you do a short loop 3' or less I suggest you get a res as the added coolant will help more then just relying on the Rad w/fan only, IMO.
I say this because I did some investigating and it paid off in the end (6' long loop). It pays to have more coolant with your WC then anything else.
Just my 2 coppers worth.
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I actually have a full out wcing system with a strom iwaki bix3 and a maze4, but since I moved to phase I am selling all that soon, right after I refill it and patch it up. Selling it already all mounted into the case to a friend of mine for like 1/3 of what i paid for it. Sooooo I only need gpu cooling since I got cpu covered with a chilly1 single stage. By now I am thinkin screw the tidewater and go with some aircooling solution. I am in canada so even the CHEAPEST decent setup would cost 200+. I have calculated this many times and unfortunately this is true. Thx for the help.
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04-20-2006, 02:43 PM
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Xtreme Mentor
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Athens, Greece
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There's not a better aircooling solution than the stock x1900 cooler out there as of now.
My 2 cents.
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Asus Rampage II Extreme
Intel I7 920 D0 3930A @ 4.35GHz (20 X 217mhz) WC'ed
3 x 2GB G.Skill Trident 1600 @ 1740MHz (7-8-7-20-1T)
Asus 4870X2 @ 850/950MHz WC'ed
150gb Western Digital Velociraptor | 2 x 320gb Western Digital Caviar SE16 Raid0 | Seagate FreeAgent XTreme 1.5TB esata
Logitech Z-5500 | LG W2600HP 26" S-IPS LCD
MountainMods UFO | Zalman ZM-850HP psu
Watercooling setup:
1st loop -> Radiator: ThermoChill PA 120.3 | Pump: Laing DDC Ultra with Alphacool top | CPU: Swiftech Apogee XT |Chipset: Swiftech MCW-NBMAX | Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
2nd loop -> Radiator: XSPC RX240 | Pump: Laing DDC Pro with Alphacool top |GPU: EK FC-4870X2| Tubing: PrimoFlex 1/2" Pro LRT
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04-20-2006, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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keep the maze 4 an det a single pro and a decent pump!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer411
Tho personally Iam wishing I had more girth than length. This skinny thing I got just dont get the job done anymore. The wife agrees.
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04-20-2006, 02:52 PM
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Xtreme Guru
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by One_Hertz
I actually have a full out wcing system with a strom iwaki bix3 and a maze4, but since I moved to phase I am selling all that soon, right after I refill it and patch it up. Selling it already all mounted into the case to a friend of mine for like 1/3 of what i paid for it. Sooooo I only need gpu cooling since I got cpu covered with a chilly1 single stage. By now I am thinkin screw the tidewater and go with some aircooling solution. I am in canada so even the CHEAPEST decent setup would cost 200+. I have calculated this many times and unfortunately this is true. Thx for the help.
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In that case then, lap your HS as some come with the drill cuts. Once I lapped mine load temps dropped from 75C down to 64C (don't think I mentioned that in my link). And, one time I forgot to plug the fan in (I re-alcoholed the HS again to make sure I removed any oils) when I looked at the temps it was unusually high at idle. Then it dawned on me  I forget to plug the fan in. I took a quick snap shot of it then immediately turned it off. It was left on for 45 minutes before I relased this  That's nothing to sneeze at...
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