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12-08-2005, 09:44 PM
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What would be the best (safest) and cheapest kit for a phase noob?
Hi!
My idea has been to move from my high end air cooling to water and finally to phase. Right now I realized that my current air setup is so high end that moving to water wont make much difference except for noise. So...I decided that my next move will be directly to phase IF it is safe (still worry about condensation as it seems is the most problematic issue) and if I can get good performance from a not too expensive and very noob friendly prebuilt kit. I saw a Vapochill that comes already in its case and all and thats a plus.
Regards
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*CPU: i7 920 DO @ 4.1Ghz 1.35v HT On
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*Mobo: Evga X58 SLI
*RAM: 3x2GB OCZ DDR3 OCZ3P1600LV6GK 7-7-7-24 1.65v
*Video Cards:XFX GTS250 Physx card & Evga GTX 295 dual pcb
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*Mobo: Asus p5K-e Wifi bios 1202
*RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Tracer@495fsb(1:1) 4-4-4-12
*Video Cards: ATI HD2600 Pro
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude
*Speakers: Rocket HT & MFW15 (AV123.com)
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12-08-2005, 09:50 PM
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as far as price versus performance goes, for a noob, i"d get in contact with someone like chilly1 who makes custom single stage units, you'll end up spending around the same price as a prometia or vapochill unit, but you'll get better performance. Otherwise, if price is your biggest concern, build your own after reading a bit.
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12-08-2005, 09:56 PM
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I really want to buy pre built kit. Even if performance is not as good as a DIY kit...its easier for a noob. Gonna research Chilly1. Dont you like the Vapochill that comes in its own case? I think it costs around $800. If I can spend less than that I will be happy...really dont know which price point gives you best bang for buck.
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Main PC
*CPU: i7 920 DO @ 4.1Ghz 1.35v HT On
*CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SanAce/Scythe/Delta
*Mobo: Evga X58 SLI
*RAM: 3x2GB OCZ DDR3 OCZ3P1600LV6GK 7-7-7-24 1.65v
*Video Cards:XFX GTS250 Physx card & Evga GTX 295 dual pcb
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude| Speakers: Strata Mini + ELT 525s (AV123)
*PSU: Corsair HX1000W
*Display:Samsung 2233RZ 3D Vision!!! | Mitsubishi 60" DLP (3D) 3D Glasses (stunning!)
*Windows 7 64Bit on GSkill Falcon V1 SSD 64GB
*Case: CoolerMaster HAF932
*Others: Logitech MX518 | SteelSeries Pad | Ratzpad GS | Logitech G15
HTPC Rig
*Case: Aspire X-Navigator
*CPU: Intel E8500 OCed 4.2Ghz (8.5x495) 1.35v bios
*Cooler: Scythe Ninja first edition with Yate Loon
*Mobo: Asus p5K-e Wifi bios 1202
*RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Tracer@495fsb(1:1) 4-4-4-12
*Video Cards: ATI HD2600 Pro
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude
*Speakers: Rocket HT & MFW15 (AV123.com)
Cameras: Pentax K20D & K100D
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12-09-2005, 05:39 AM
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Shaolin, I am in the same position but decided to do water first, I ordered a Swiftech kit with the Storm block.
It will be interesting to see how us post-air newbies will do on the two roads ahead
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12-09-2005, 05:42 AM
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Cyanide Blood
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Shaolin, we have pretty much the same rig (mobo,cpu,gfx card)... Be interesting to see your results
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12-09-2005, 06:59 AM
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yea but DIY kits requires a lot of things, like some expensive tools, knowledge with AC and coolants, plus to be legal you have to take all these certification tests.
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12-09-2005, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimmpy224
yea but DIY kits requires a lot of things, like some expensive tools, knowledge with AC and coolants, plus to be legal you have to take all these certification tests.
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Thats why I want something pro built...just ready to use. Are you near Houston?
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*CPU: i7 920 DO @ 4.1Ghz 1.35v HT On
*CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SanAce/Scythe/Delta
*Mobo: Evga X58 SLI
*RAM: 3x2GB OCZ DDR3 OCZ3P1600LV6GK 7-7-7-24 1.65v
*Video Cards:XFX GTS250 Physx card & Evga GTX 295 dual pcb
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude| Speakers: Strata Mini + ELT 525s (AV123)
*PSU: Corsair HX1000W
*Display:Samsung 2233RZ 3D Vision!!! | Mitsubishi 60" DLP (3D) 3D Glasses (stunning!)
*Windows 7 64Bit on GSkill Falcon V1 SSD 64GB
*Case: CoolerMaster HAF932
*Others: Logitech MX518 | SteelSeries Pad | Ratzpad GS | Logitech G15
HTPC Rig
*Case: Aspire X-Navigator
*CPU: Intel E8500 OCed 4.2Ghz (8.5x495) 1.35v bios
*Cooler: Scythe Ninja first edition with Yate Loon
*Mobo: Asus p5K-e Wifi bios 1202
*RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Tracer@495fsb(1:1) 4-4-4-12
*Video Cards: ATI HD2600 Pro
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude
*Speakers: Rocket HT & MFW15 (AV123.com)
Cameras: Pentax K20D & K100D
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12-09-2005, 07:41 AM
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hmm last time i checked, chilly1 sold kits
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12-09-2005, 07:51 AM
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Chilly1 sells parts as well as pre-assembled and charged systems, Just saying that for "around" the same price, you'll get a better performing and better looking system.
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12-09-2005, 11:06 AM
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Chilly1s prebuilts will be better than anything a first time builder makes.
A first time builders setups will be better than any Nventiv or Asetek product.
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12-11-2005, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by craig588
Chilly1s prebuilts will be better than anything a first time builder makes.
A first time builders setups will be better than any Nventiv or Asetek product.
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That maybe so, but I have been dissapointed in the PM exchange Ive been having with him, I am sorry to say. Is this a good starter system:
VapoChill Extreme Edition
I dont mine if it does -100 or -15. Any minus will be LOTS better than my current air cooling.
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Main PC
*CPU: i7 920 DO @ 4.1Ghz 1.35v HT On
*CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SanAce/Scythe/Delta
*Mobo: Evga X58 SLI
*RAM: 3x2GB OCZ DDR3 OCZ3P1600LV6GK 7-7-7-24 1.65v
*Video Cards:XFX GTS250 Physx card & Evga GTX 295 dual pcb
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude| Speakers: Strata Mini + ELT 525s (AV123)
*PSU: Corsair HX1000W
*Display:Samsung 2233RZ 3D Vision!!! | Mitsubishi 60" DLP (3D) 3D Glasses (stunning!)
*Windows 7 64Bit on GSkill Falcon V1 SSD 64GB
*Case: CoolerMaster HAF932
*Others: Logitech MX518 | SteelSeries Pad | Ratzpad GS | Logitech G15
HTPC Rig
*Case: Aspire X-Navigator
*CPU: Intel E8500 OCed 4.2Ghz (8.5x495) 1.35v bios
*Cooler: Scythe Ninja first edition with Yate Loon
*Mobo: Asus p5K-e Wifi bios 1202
*RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Tracer@495fsb(1:1) 4-4-4-12
*Video Cards: ATI HD2600 Pro
*Sound Card: X-Fi Prelude
*Speakers: Rocket HT & MFW15 (AV123.com)
Cameras: Pentax K20D & K100D
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12-11-2005, 07:09 PM
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Stay away from anything else than the LS from Asetek... Those are just too underpowered for curent CPUs... And IMHO the LS is underpowered too...
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