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12-04-2005, 11:42 AM
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News: Intel`s future overview
Very big article posted on THG.
Here`s quick view into Intel`s future desktop names :
Single-core :
Prescott 2M (90nm, 2MB L2) -> CedarMill (65nm, 2MB L2) -> Millville (65nm, 1MB L2) -> Perryville (45nm, 2MB L2).
Dual-core :
Smithfield (90nm, 2х1MB L2) -> Presler (65nm, 2x2MB L2) -> Conroe (65nm, 4MB L2), Allendale (65nm, 2MB L2) -> Wolfdale (45nm, 3MB L2).
Quad-core :
Kentsfield (65nm, 2x2MB L2) -> Redgefield (45nm, 6MB L2) -> Bloomfield.
Octal-core :
Yorkfield (45nm, 4x3MB L2, multi-die)
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The introduction of the Merom design will be a turning point in Intel's product policy, because it will be the backbone for all processor families that go into the desktop, the mobile or the enterprise space
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12-04-2005, 11:59 AM
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Quad-core :
Kentsfield (65nm, 2x2MB L2) -> Redgefield (45nm, 6MB L2) -> Bloomfield.
Octal-core :
Yorkfield (45nm, 4x3MB L2, multi-die)
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There go my upgrade plans out the window  ...or maybe not...Conroe isn't out for a while...if sM2 comes out first 
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12-04-2005, 12:00 PM
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There go my upgrade plans out the window
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You still have 3 more years till those arrive 
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12-04-2005, 12:02 PM
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I know...I'll ze wait zen zee zwat z A.M.Z has in ztore for me. 
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12-04-2005, 12:17 PM
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I know...I'll ze wait zen zee zwat z A.M.Z has in ztore for me.
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LMFAO...I want to see the same thing. I just hope there are better solutions for Intel so it's not just a simple answer and to go with AMD. Then I'd be able to choose the best chip for the best price.
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12-04-2005, 12:30 PM
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Penryn will be the big one, trust me
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12-04-2005, 04:49 PM
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octal-core wtf! anyway kentsfield could be around sooner than you think if amd releases their quad-cores in 2007.
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12-04-2005, 06:58 PM
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Octal core, does that mean 8 PHYSICAL cores with hyperthreading, or 4 PHYSICAL cores with hyperthreading? That is gonna be like $3k!
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12-04-2005, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by moddolicous
Octal core, does that mean 8 PHYSICAL cores with hyperthreading, or 4 PHYSICAL cores with hyperthreading? That is gonna be like $3k!
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8 physical cores...i think thats server only at first though
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12-04-2005, 07:33 PM
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I wonder how much time it will take games and other applications to fully benefit from multicore solutions.
If dual core was just introduced on the ATi and nVidia drivers, and only the most popular games with the most advanced engines support it , how much time will it take to split it up to 4 cores and latter on to 8 cores.
I dont even think the PS3 will benefit from the 8 cores it has.
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12-04-2005, 07:42 PM
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7 cores on the playstation not 8 =)
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12-04-2005, 08:08 PM
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Octal-core :
Yorkfield (45nm, 4x3MB L2, multi-die)
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Um i would hate to burst your bubble but it is 8x512kb L2
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12-04-2005, 08:12 PM
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Um i would hate to burst your bubble but it is 8x512kb L2
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12MB/4=3MB....unless im missing something (theres 4 dual core, or 2 quad core chips IIRC)
anyways, it leaves 1.5MB per core
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12-04-2005, 08:42 PM
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Let's hope the conroe hits closer to second half q6
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12-04-2005, 09:56 PM
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12MB/4=3MB....unless im missing something (theres 4 dual core, or 2 quad core chips IIRC)
anyways, it leaves 1.5MB per core
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I said 512Kb per core
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12-04-2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nn_step
I said 512Kb per core
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....512KB is .5MB not 1.5
12MB/8cores is 1.5...not .5 i still dont get where youre comming from?
8X512K would only give 4MB TOTAL
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12-05-2005, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AkXb70
....512KB is .5MB not 1.5
12MB/8cores is 1.5...not .5 i still dont get where youre comming from?
8X512K would only give 4MB TOTAL
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I mean it isn't going to have 12MB total L2, it is going to have a net distributed L2 totalling 4MB or is that to complicated?
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12-05-2005, 11:10 AM
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These processors are so far out that arguing over the specifics seems a bit pointless as it will all be speculation, but going on what THG says yorkfield and harpetown have 12mb cache shared between 8 cores - thats 1.5mb per core. And judging by the timeframes given it would suggest a 4 wolfdale core multi chip module (4x 3mb cache dual cores). But given intels past history, the chips are likely to alter somewhat before they are near production.
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12-05-2005, 03:28 PM
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I mean it isn't going to have 12MB total L2, it is going to have a net distributed L2 totalling 4MB or is that to complicated?
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so where exactly are you getting that from? everything on that pg says 12MB.
if you can show me another source that says 4MB, ok (although that seems a bit celeronish to me) but this is the 1st ive even heard of these chips from any place
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12-05-2005, 09:35 PM
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Think about it.. The Sandy's 1MB Cache is larger than the actual rest of the CPU..
Now imagine how large the Die would have to be if 3/4 of it was just Cache at only 1/4 the current area of processes
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12-05-2005, 09:42 PM
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Think about it.. The Sandy's 1MB Cache is larger than the actual rest of the CPU..
Now imagine how large the Die would have to be if 3/4 of it was just Cache at only 1/4 the current area of processes
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this isnt one die. it will be either 2 quads or 4 duals. (or maybe something else) a 45nm dual core chip with 3MB L2 shouldnt be too hard for intel to make. putting 4 under one heat spreader shouldnt be that difficult either, especially if intel changes the geometry of the socket. (although, they probably wont...look at dempsey, 2 90n, 2MB L2 cores under one heat spreader, and prescott's cache, even at 2MB doesnt take up much space in comparison to the rest of the core)
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12-05-2005, 11:48 PM
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knowing intel they will all have a new socket
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12-06-2005, 02:27 AM
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hmmmm why a step back in cache size?
hmmmmm
great news! thx for posting cooper 
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12-06-2005, 09:59 AM
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hmm so which single core is the one based on dothan? millville?
is cedar mill just a shrunk prescott?
preseler is the 65nm netburtst dual core right? conroe is to be yonah based?
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12-06-2005, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Revv23
hmm so which single core is the one based on dothan? millville?
is cedar mill just a shrunk prescott?
preseler is the 65nm netburtst dual core right? conroe is to be yonah based?
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Well the only thing you`re right about is 65nm cedarmill & presler
Conroe will take some from P6 (Dothan, Yonah) and NetBurst architectures
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