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Old 04-02-2005, 09:36 PM   #1
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Contact lenses, their benefits and risks

I have been doing research on those(not my first time) and the risks really scare me I accknowlege its benefits however it has its risks. I have never worn them for this reason but one of my friends says I should try them, forget lasik, forget intacs, try contacts


benefits, pros, advantages:

1. Marketers of continuous wear contact lenses say they’re a good option for people who don’t want to undergo the expense of laser vision correction, or who aren’t good candidates for surgical procedures.

2. Comfort and convenience are major advantages of this kind of lens, making it an attractive option also for those who wear eyeglasses.

3. May provide one line better vision than glasses

4. Less disortion, minification, glare and scratches as compared to glasses

5. I supposedly read that contact lenses can provide partial protection against chemicals splashing into the eye, contacs block chemicals from burning the center of the eye so only your sides become bloody and scarred. "In some cases, the contact lens protects the eye against further chemical damage."

6. Doesnt fog up in high humidity, including when its raining.

7. Improved field of side vision

8. Better cosmetic appearance when lenses replace thick spectacles.

9. One advantage of wearing contacts is that they won't get in the way while playing sports, cheerleading, dancing or doing other exercises.

10. When you're active, contact lenses don't steam up or slide down your nose.

11. Plus, they eliminate that annoying pressure behind your ears.

12.




risks, cons, disadvantages:

1. continuously wearing contact lenses increases chances of developing an infection or eye disease, although the risk is still slight.

2. You have a significantly greater chance of developing corneal ulcers if you leave contact lenses in overnight. If you use extended or continuous wear contact lenses, you should be especially alert to any eye changes such as redness, swelling, and dryness.

3. Daily disposable lenses: although generally more expensive, carry a lower infection risk. But they may be expensive!

4. likely to scratch the cornea if the lens does not fit properly or if the lens is worn while sleeping.

5. Rigid gas-permeable lenses and soft extended-wear contacts are the most likely to have protein build-up and cause lens-related allergies. Protein build-up results in discomfort, blurring and intolerance to the lenses.

6. Do not take your lenses in and out repeatedly throughout the day.

7. Extended-wear rigid lenses also can cause unexpected, sometimes undesirable, reshaping of the cornea.

8. Another sight-threatening concern is the infection Acanthamoeba keratitis, caused by improper lens care. This difficult-to-treat parasitic infection's symptoms are similar to those of corneal ulcers.

9. Also, rigid lenses don't absorb chemicals, unlike soft lenses, which Saviola says are like sponges. "They'll suck up any residues on your hands--soap, lotion, whatever."

10. "Severe nearsightedness often can't be corrected effectively with contact lenses."

11. Any time a foreign object or material is placed in the eye, there is an increased risk of problems.

12. Many people find them more comfortable to wear than hard lenses, but hard lenses usually provide sharper vision. You want comfort, wear the soft ones. You wanna see sharp, wear hard ones.

13. Sudden exposure to heat (opening an oven, hot steam or something) may fuse the contact lens to your eye.(whats its melting point?)

14. Corneal ablation - the reason I can't wear contacts. Excessive tear generation followed by an erosion (ablation) of the cornea. Everything I looked at had rings around it, even with the contacts out and glasses on.

15. Lenses that correct astigmatism are called toric lenses(regular ones cant help) They may need to be custom-made and may be more expensive than ordinary contact lenses.

16. Problems sometimes caused by wearing contact lenses include:

Dry eyes.
Problems with the cornea, such as swelling and hazy vision caused by decreased oxygen to the cornea (hypoxia), corneal scratches and scrapes, changes in the cornea's shape, or infection of the cornea.
Allergic reactions to contact lens solution.
Deposits on the lenses, which may make the lenses less comfortable and increase the risk of infection (deposits are rare with hard lenses).
Eye inflammation.
Eyelid inflammation. Inflammatory bumps can form under the eyelid, making it uncomfortable to wear contacts.

17. Contacts must fit properly on the eye — if they don't, serious eye health issues can result.

18. How much truth is there to reports of heat, bright light, dry air, whatever drying the lense and/or eye and causing it to "fuse" to the cornea making removal hard(if not impossible) and painful? See number 13.

19. I read how they can get stuck behind the eyelid, get absorbed into the eye, fall under the eye and roll to the back of the eye or deep into your skull. I hear stories of people saying their lense fell out then days, weeks or even months later, their lense suddenly "pops" out from the depths of their eye!
http://www.attention-to-details.com/...-in-my-eye.asp

20. Eyeglass prescriptions are higher than contact lens prescriptions because contact lenses sit on the eye, whereas eyeglasses sit in space in front of the eye. We call this the vertex distance. The closer a lens sits to the eye, the less strength is needed to focus light on the retina. And the stronger the prescription, the more the power adjustment. This is true for both soft and RGP lenses. — Dr. Dubow(so how would I know what pescription to get)

21. Getting into water with contacts is dangerous.... there are all kinds of nasty bugs living in swimming pools (and hot tubs as well). One of these creatures, called acanthameba, can cause horrible pain and damage to your eye, very often necessitating a corneal transplant.

22. Overuse of contacts may cause oxygen deprivation stimulates the growth of new blood vessels (neovascularization) from the conjunctiva (the membrane that covers the white of the eye) to grow into the cornea where blood vessels typically don't exist. The farther into the cornea they grow, the more problematic they can be.

23. Soft lenses do absorb elements from the tears and the environment. They can change in fit with their age and cleanliness, perhaps causing a lack of oxygen to the eyes. Their surfaces break down rapidly, causing a decreasing sharpness of vision.

24. Quoted from source: Someone told me about a guy who died in very mysterious circumstances. It seems he kept losing his contact lenses, and it turned out that they were rolling behind his eyes and getting stuck to his brain, and killed him!

25. Lenses must usually be inserted and removed daily with scrupulous cleaning and disinfection between each wearing requiring several different sterile solutions and containers.

26. On-going costs of solutions and regular replacement of lenses make lens wear more expensive than spectacle wear.

27. Lenses do not protect against eye trauma nor against dust and dirt. Protective eyewear must still be worn in sporting or industrial activities. Dusty or dirty environments may make lens wear unsuitable.

28. How many times have you witnessed a hapless individual crawling around a dance floor or basketball court occur looking for a lost contact lens? Or how often have you seen a room full of people crawling around looking for a lost contact lens?(doesnt apply to desposiable daily or weekly lenses, but do keep spares!)




I will find more risks and benefits later, will edit this posts. I could probably find 30-50 risks for contacts. I have some comments too, see my posts below for those
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Old 04-02-2005, 09:48 PM   #2
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I need glasses (or some form of vision correction) i have never had them before now so im considering just getting contacts first to see if i like them, if i dont i will get glasses but if i like them (and my body does as well) ill stick with them. It cant hurt to try.
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Old 04-02-2005, 09:49 PM   #3
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My brother is extremely far-sighted and he tried contacts once (the soft kind). They didn't let him see as well as normal eye glasses, and were a PITA.

He ended up getting some of those frameless Silhouette glasses. They're impossible to see except for the arms (and the arms are pretty small, too). They look almost exactly like these.


Risk #12. Sudden exposure to heat (opening an oven, hot steam or something) may fuse the contact lens to your eye.

Unless there is some reason you can't wear normal eyeglasses I don't think contact lenses are the way to go. Way too much maintenance and risk/precautions to deal with.
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Old 04-02-2005, 10:00 PM   #4
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Reason #13 - Corneal ablation - the reason I can't wear contacts. Excessive tear generation followed by an erosion (ablation) of the cornea. Everything I looked at had rings around it, even with the contacts out and glasses on.

Thankfully it reverted (cornea re-formed) a couple of weeks after discontinuing wearing the contacts.
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Old 04-02-2005, 10:16 PM   #5
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Hmm, this is making me seriously recomsider, im not liking #12 at all, i dont want to fuse the contact to my eye, lol.
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:58 AM   #6
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Been wearing dailys for the past 6 years with no problems whatsoever. They are great, when it rains its no big deal, no steaming up when coming in from the cold, makes life easier when riding the bike, generally my sight is better. I mean we can all find things that have more risks that benefits, I mean what about crossing the road...getting out of bed etc etc
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Old 04-03-2005, 01:00 AM   #7
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i dont need glasses, but i always thought it was cool that u could touch ur eyeball without it hurting when u have contacts in
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Old 04-03-2005, 01:27 AM   #8
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I'm wearing contacts for about 4 months now and I must say I haven't got any single problem with them yet except you have to get used to them. It's a bit harder when you get up early and have to get your contacts in than putting on your glasses but it's a good way to get awake. If I read all the risks I say that this will all unlikely happen and I'm not afraid of wearing my lenses allot. Just make sure you got decent lenses (buy them at the doctor).
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Old 04-03-2005, 10:50 AM   #9
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Hmm, this is making me seriously recomsider, im not liking #12 at all, i dont want to fuse the contact to my eye, lol.
i do... thatd be similar to lasik
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Old 04-03-2005, 10:59 AM   #10
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I've worn contacts for the past 5 years. Soft lenses, the only eye infection I've had is pink eye, once four years ago. At which time your not supposed to wear your lenses.
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Old 04-03-2005, 02:40 PM   #11
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I love contacts, much nicer than glasses for me. The only thing that is not as good is putting them in every morning and removing at night, but it is worth it.
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Old 04-04-2005, 12:42 AM   #13
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Once I am done with all the benefits, I can find alot more than 5, still looking
I keep thinking of the poor ladies who have a contact lense roll under their eye where they cant reach it :x
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i wear contacts
sooo good
thay hurt at first, gotta lube em up heaps
but worth it. just dont open ur eyes underwater without goggles!
also water and contact sports are much better
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geforce, I see your still on the rampage about improving your eyesight.. here is a tip for you.. dont use the computer lol.. half of us would see improvements in our eye sight if we stoped going to XS and overclocking. but alas none of us will do this and we must suffer with bad eyes.
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I read that reading, using the comp, whatever does not make your eyes worse, just makes em tired. I did hear to keep over 12" distance from the book and over 24" from the monitor and youll be fine. Besides my eye exercises should improve me
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hmm.. yah it makes ur eyes tired and if you stay at hte same focus point for long periods of time ur eyes will have a harder time using their muscles and thus u cant focus.
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I love my glasses! They've saved my eyes many many times from flying/falling debris.
If i ever had used contacts there's no doubt in my mind it would have been very short lived. I'm still not sure what drives people away from glasses other than school kids finding them unattractive?
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I love my glasses! They've saved my eyes many many times from flying/falling debris.
If i ever had used contacts there's no doubt in my mind it would have been very short lived. I'm still not sure what drives people away from glasses other than school kids finding them unattractive?
I don't like the way they feel on my face, I get better correction with contacts, peripheral vision, don't get wet/steamed/sat on, let me use headphones comfortably, let me use good safety glasses, and many more reasons.
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I have Accuvue's (the old ones). Worn them for 11 years now.

Never had an eye infection. I take them out nightly after reading the forums and put them in while eating breakfast and checking my email. They're supposed to last 2 weeks: Mine show no degradation at over 6 months of use (verified by my doctor...he thought I was kidding when I said I was still on the first of 6 boxes ).

I'm pretty active...the only thing I've noticed is that I have to wear glasses when I'm cycling cause the lenses will dry out when they're exposed to 20mph+ air rushing by for an extended time. All other sports are fine for me: Baseball, Football, and of course Ultimate.

I'm worse than 20:200 without them, and I haven't had glasses since I got contacts. I'm not a big fan of waking up and being blind, but until I'm ready for Lasik (alot better than the old RK surgery....scalpel vs laser!), it's something I'll have to live with.


Oh yeah, did you hear about the next generation contacts? They're fabbed with 32 pipes, and PolyStyrene-3, and you can wear two in one eye for SLI! :p [/end poke at geforceti400]
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Well there is one thing i don't like using glasses with and that's scuba masks. (kinda forgot about that one)
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I've worn soft contact lens for 21 years now.

Lately, though due to the changes in my eyes I can't keep them in for more than say 10 hours or so at a time.

When I was younger, I could keep my contacts in for at least 18 hours or so. No way can I keep them in my eyes that long anymore.

I find my glasses much more comfortable, but I really do miss the better peripheral vision, less distortion and no halo affect of contact lens.

Also, on hot sweaty days or cold days when the glasses fog up or slip down it can be a pain.

BTW, my eyesight is pretty bad. I've got like -9.00 contact lenses. My eyeglasses are made from a special glass lens by Zeiss and are imported from Germany.
I had to sign a waiver, because even though they meet European standards, they don't pass FDA standards on breakage. However, the size diff. is pretty great. With these lenses and a small frame, my outer edge is probably like .25 inches while the closest thing in the US would put me at least .35 inches or so.
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acanthamoeba is an ameoba that will cause infection in your eye if you wash your contacts with tap watre..
DO NOT EVER WASH CONTACS WITH TAP WATER!!!

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