Is it worth moving to TEC?...

cinders · 12-14-2004, 04:33 AM

Can anyone advise me if it's worth my time and money investing in using a TEC to cool my new X800XT PE card over standard watercooling on it's own?...

I was going to buy a Maze4-1 GPU Tec Kit and replace the 80W peltier with a 172W (40mmx40mm) peltier and use a seperate PSU to power the peltier.

I'm currently running a ThermoChill 120.3 radiator with 3x120mm fans to cool a maze-4 chipset cooler and tdx a64 cpu cooler. Would my current setup allow me to run a 172W peltier?...

Is a 172W peltier enough to cool the X800XT PE card at high overclock?...

Is this worth doing or should I just get a GPU block and cool it without the peltier.

What sort of overclock would you see from using water to using tec?..

I don't want to destroy my card either and have read about a lot of people damaging their cards using peltiers!

Any advise appreciated!

Cinders.

Nimrod0031 · 12-14-2004, 04:42 PM

well I cant give you any info on a x800. I have not hooked mine up yet but on my 9800pro and some cold water I got 530 core with no vmods.

It worked wonderful on the 9800 so I'm going to use it again. My 24/7 gaming speeds on it were 485/385

Your current setup would allow for it just make it the last block in your loop. I used dual 6x6mm heatercores.

Jabo · 12-17-2004, 02:34 AM

It all depends waht do you want from your card (didn't ypu post on the same subject at O-CuK?)

For ocing and benching - yes, it is worth it and if you decide to to be brave and volt mod you may be up for some scary clocks there

For gaming - no, bog standard stock will give you all the juice to run all current games at highest eye-candy settings

Negative Design · 12-19-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabo

It all depends waht do you want from your card (didn't ypu post on the same subject at O-CuK?)

For ocing and benching - yes, it is worth it and if you decide to to be brave and volt mod you may be up for some scary clocks there

For gaming - no, bog standard stock will give you all the juice to run all current games at highest eye-candy settings

TEC=bad for gaming? I will be using TEC but for my CPU will that be bad for gaming too?

If its good for benching I dont see its bad for gaming lol but wat do I know

kryptobs2000 · 12-19-2004, 06:46 PM

He just means you won't see a noticable increase in gaming, but you will in benchmarks when it gives you a number at the end. I personally do normally notice a 200mhz on my cpu, every little bit counts imo. I'd say it's worth it but I mean... I find it fun. If you think it's work and your doing it to run games faster then don't do it.

Negative Design · 12-19-2004, 06:53 PM

oh I see,I want games faster so I'll just TEC my CPU and water cool my GPU

kryptobs2000 · 12-19-2004, 07:10 PM

no no no lol. That wasn't my point in saying the 200mhz on the cpu. I'm sorry. I just meant 200mhz on the cpu is like 30mhz on a videocard core clock. It's not anything that is really noticable. But to me it does make a diff. I notice the smoothness. But don't expect anything like moving from a 9800 to a x800 is all where saying. You probably won't beable to run at much higher settings, it'll just be a little smoother at your current settings. Maybe a little higher.

Were just saying don't expect a drastic change or anything. I'd say you would get just as much benefit probably from putting a tec on ur gpu as you would your cpu. It depends on your specs tho, so what are they tha'd give us a better idea if it would be worth it.

edit: nevermind, just saw ur specs in ur sig

I'll edit this in a second.

edit2:Wait, lol, wrong sig haha... what are your specs?

edit3:ugh... crap ok, I re read the whole thread, and I just completely confused myself, I don't feel like figuring this out. I thought you were the one originally asking about putting a tec on their gpu and... oh, my brain hurts... I'm just gonna leave this post as it is now. See what happens from here...

Negative Design · 12-19-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kryptobs2000

no no no lol. That wasn't my point in saying the 200mhz on the cpu. I'm sorry. I just meant 200mhz on the cpu is like 30mhz on a videocard core clock. It's not anything that is really noticable. But to me it does make a diff. I notice the smoothness. But don't expect anything like moving from a 9800 to a x800 is all where saying. You probably won't beable to run at much higher settings, it'll just be a little smoother at your current settings. Maybe a little higher.

Were just saying don't expect a drastic change or anything. I'd say you would get just as much benefit probably from putting a tec on ur gpu as you would your cpu. It depends on your specs tho, so what are they tha'd give us a better idea if it would be worth it.

edit: nevermind, just saw ur specs in ur sig

I'll edit this in a second.

edit2:Wait, lol, wrong sig haha... what are your specs?

edit3:ugh... crap ok, I re read the whole thread, and I just completely confused myself, I don't feel like figuring this out. I thought you were the one originally asking about putting a tec on their gpu and... oh, my brain hurts... I'm just gonna leave this post as it is now. See what happens from here...

LoL im as confused as you are

lol
I understood what you meant by in your earlier post

I shouldnt expect any improvements,But I do see difference on 200MHZ BIG differences lol IE: my HDTV movies run 10X faster at 2.5GHZ then at 1.9 etc...

Barton 2500,DFI Infinity,9800@XT 445/375,Geil @220 2.5-2-2-2-5 getting BH5 soon

etc etc

kryptobs2000 · 12-19-2004, 07:32 PM

What can you get your barton too with w/e your cooling is now? Is it locked? If it's locked then you might not get much better clocks out of it. I had a locked barton (gave it to a friend) and it was really good. I could boot at 11x240 @ 1.93v, and do crap on the desktop, I think the only reason isn't wasn't stable is because.. well 3 reasons. 1 is I could only give my ram (bh5) 3.1v and I'm sure it's capable of it at 3.3v or more (at the time my 3.3v line was 3.3v and the vtt wasn't tracking). So that help me back, my temps were reaching 50c idling almost. And this was on air.

Oh... point is, if it's locked, unless you can give ur ram enough volts, it's not going to keep up, and a tec won't help you over water. it's hard to get an AthlonXP to do over 250fsb, and it's ahrd to get the mobo's to do over 250fsb. So if it's locked, then ur probably limited by other factors.

haha.. do crap on the desktop... I'll elaborate. I could run sisoft memory benches, and cpu benches usually without problems, and do things not cpu intesive, browse the web things like that. Far from stable, but not gonna shut down on me. It would fial everytime ithen 7min of prime95 tho.

Negative Design · 12-19-2004, 07:37 PM

I forgot to mention it was a mobile lol I can reach 2.6GHZ stable on air I havent installed my TEC yet...doin some work on my new case 2st before I move all my stuff.I'm able to do 255 FSB on this geil ram but not 100% stable so I do 220 at low timings

My goal is to go as high as possible with TEC I doubt I'll do 3GHZ but Im gonna try anyway...

kryptobs2000 · 12-19-2004, 07:38 PM

ah, well ignore my previous post and go for it

Negative Design · 12-20-2004, 11:40 PM

Yes sir!

jokester · 12-21-2004, 12:25 PM

I have my X800XT at 660MHz on the core (volt modded) using a 172W TEC running off a 12V supply (100W?). I'm just waiting on a 24V PSU to see how much more it gets.

Jokester

echow87 · 12-22-2004, 02:14 PM

tec is defin worth it....with tec on my 3.2c i can do 4.1ghz, without it i can do 3.6. tec usually gives u 200mhz+ o/c than by using h2o/air

Negative Design · 12-22-2004, 02:18 PM

Hey! its echow! didn't know you were a member here lol...and dude its not PCI-X ....dont get me started

SynGroW · 01-10-2005, 12:08 PM

I'm running a 80w TEC on my X800Pro Vivo

Gave me a nice 50MHz increase of 3DMark stable core clocks

(from 530MHz air cooled to 580MHz TEC cooled, card isn't vmodded only flashed to XT PE)
So the 172w TEC probably increases the overclock even further