Advice/Help needed on new WC rig

[Ultim8]

Hi Guys,

Im fairly new around here and i'm about to embark on my first watercooling mission, here is the gear i have already.

PC Components
TJ07B-W
i7 920 Do
Corsair TR3X6G1866C7GTF
OCX Vertex 30GB SSD
EVGA X58 Classified (760)
LG Blu-Ray-RW
Creative X-FI Fatality Titanium
Corsair 1000HX
Waiting to see what Nvidia can come up with then will buy 2 or 3 and WC them.

Watercooling Components
HK 3.0 CU
EK X58 Class Full board Block Acetal
XSPC Dual DDC Bay res
2 x DDC Ultra's 18W
TFC Xchanger 480mm Rad (For bottom)
TFC Xchanger 240mm Rad (Mounted on rear with Swiftech rad box)
Black Ice Stealth 240mm Rad (For Top exhaust)
Magicool Slim 240mm Rad (For Top exhuast)
All Bitspower Black Sparkle bends and 1/2id-3/4od compression fittings.
12 x Noctua NF-P12 Fans
Mcube Bigng T-balancer

Right my first question is which rad would perform better for the top exhaust the magicool or the Black Ice?

2nd question is what what would you change if anything or if you have any additions to make this rig rock

Cheers

Ulti

[Ultim8]

have i asked my question in the wrong way :S

[bundymania]

the magicool rad is better for low speed fans (under 1000 RPM)

i would prefer noiseblocker, or sythe s-flex fans and an Aquaero because of the display

One Laing DDC-1T(+) would be powerful enough for this setup !

[Ultim8]

Cheers for the reply but would the black ice or the magicool perform better with the Noctua P12's?

And i have gone a bit overkill but eventually i could have 2 or 3 more graphics card in there too cool so thought i would rather have more than enough plus i got a deal on alot of my parts through my work.

A what would be the best loop order i was thinking of this:

Loop 1:
Res>Pump>480mm>HK3.0

Loop 2:
Res>Pump>240mm Exhaust>External swiftech rad boxed 240mm feser>EK full board block>GFX1>GFX2>potentially 3rd gfx

[NaeKuh]

Originally Posted by bundymania

One Laing DDC-1T(+) would be powerful enough for this setup !

maybe if he took out 2 of his rads.

But 4 rads?!?!?

He's thinking of adding 4 radiators.

Why do you have so many radiators and only 1 cpu block?
What are you trying to achieve?? the hall of fame for having the most rads on 1 loop?

You do not need that many rads unless u intend to manually fan your rads to get air across the fins.

Good lord... if your getting tri sli, split up your loop. Dont keep that all in 1 chain..
Rule of thumb is try not to exceed 300-350W on a single loop.
Why? Because thats the point where ur delta from inlet and outlet will be greater then 1C. (depending on your flow rates)

Originally Posted by Ultim8

A what would be the best loop order i was thinking of this:

Loop 1:
Res>Pump>480mm>HK3.0

Loop 2:
Res>Pump>240mm Exhaust>External swiftech rad boxed 240mm feser>EK full board block>GFX1>GFX2>potentially 3rd gfx

Ahh u fixed it.. this is much better...

Are you going after silence? or performance?

Whats your objective?

[Ultim8]

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

maybe if he took out 2 of his rads.

But 4 rads?!?!?

He's thinking of adding 4 radiators.

Why do you have so many radiators and only 1 cpu block?
What are you trying to achieve?? the hall of fame for having the most rads on 1 loop?

You do not need that many rads unless u intend to manually fan your rads to get air across the fins.

Good lord... if your getting tri sli, split up your loop. Dont keep that all in 1 chain..
Rule of thumb is try not to exceed 300-350W on a single loop.
Why? Because thats the point where ur delta from inlet and outlet will be greater then 1C. (depending on your flow rates)



Ahh u fixed it.. this is much better...

Are you going after silence? or performance?

Whats your objective?

Hi, and yes im not doing 4 rads just the 3 but wanted to know if that loops order seems good and should i use the Magicool slim 240mm or the blackice with the noctua P12's?

And im hoping i can have both silence and performance by setting the mcube correctly. The PC is in my living room you see so while im watching movies i want the pc as silent as can be but once i stick my headset on and start to game i want performance and the noise is not such an issue.

for the fans im hoping to do the following on each rad:

480mm will have 4 on one side 3 on the other in push pull config.
240mm at top of tjo7 will have 2 fans pushing the air through the rad out of the top of the case. and the external swiftech rad box will have of the noctua's on it pulling and the 2 92mm case fans inside the case will be pushing, then one intake fan in the silverstone CFP-51.

I hope this helps explain my initial thoughts on it.

Cheers

Ulti

[shazza]

Nice selection of hardware!

I doubt that it matters a lot which of your 240 rads you use. Since you are interested in which will work best with the Noctua fans, the best thing to do would be to check both of them with the fans, and see if there is much difference. I'd be tempted to use the top rad in a second loop for just your motherboard cooling for now. Then you could use the other rads for your CPU (and GPUs) when you add them. If you're going for the best CPU temps you can get, then my preference would be to keep just the CPU on one loop, and maybe combine the GPU and mobo on a second. BUT - you certainly can put everything in one loop if that's your preference.

My other comment - and this is really personal preference - why not go with just the Feser rads and figure out how to put them both internal? The TJ-07 is such a nice case for water cooling, I'd prefer not to have rads on the outside.

Good Luck with this project - looks like a big one! Hope you do a work log, as it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

[Ultim8]

Originally Posted by shazza

Nice selection of hardware!

I doubt that it matters a lot which of your 240 rads you use. Since you are interested in which will work best with the Noctua fans, the best thing to do would be to check both of them with the fans, and see if there is much difference. I'd be tempted to use the top rad in a second loop for just your motherboard cooling for now. Then you could use the other rads for your CPU (and GPUs) when you add them. If you're going for the best CPU temps you can get, then my preference would be to keep just the CPU on one loop, and maybe combine the GPU and mobo on a second. BUT - you certainly can put everything in one loop if that's your preference.

My other comment - and this is really personal preference - why not go with just the Feser rads and figure out how to put them both internal? The TJ-07 is such a nice case for water cooling, I'd prefer not to have rads on the outside.

Good Luck with this project - looks like a big one! Hope you do a work log, as it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

Hi Shazza i will be running 2 loops im thinking just the 480mm for the CPU and then 2 x 240mm's for the chipset and graphics once i decide what graphics im gonna use.

I might see if i can sqeeze the 240mm feser down the bottom with the 480mm but after seeing some others work logs it seems like its a tight fit.

Also im thinking if i put the 240mm feser on the back i can make the loop order flow nicely.

Got to work out how to use skethup so i can show you what i mean

But if anyone has experience with the Magicool slim 240 vs the Blackice stealth 240 i would be interested to know.

Cheers

Ulti