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Old 09-30-2009, 04:45 PM   #1
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Skinnee has SR1 test results posted

I PMed Skinnee and seems he is working on the forum post atm. Here is his full review though for all of you that have been waiting.

You did a great job Skinnee.

http://www.skinneelabs.com/Radiators...s_SR1-360.html

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Old 09-30-2009, 04:53 PM   #2
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so why does this rad cost more then a RX360 when it performs less then it?
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:57 PM   #3
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so why does this rad cost more then a RX360 when it performs less then it?
It has a spiffy paint job.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:03 PM   #4
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It's funny how they captured the two ends of the spectrum here. They are the new 600 rpm holders as well as anything with 1800 rpm and higher. Nice review Skinny and thank you for taking the time. This rad is not for me though. Too quiet....I like my case to hover and my water .5 degrees of ambient...
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:32 PM   #5
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PA120.3, TFC 360, RX360 already aren't exactly bang for your buck(IMO they doesn't worth at all) but this one lol amagad.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:54 PM   #6
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That is what i thought it would be, nothing special but overpriced. $135 + Shipping for a 360 rad is not what i have in mind. The 480 was like $160. I guess some people will never own a SR1
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:15 PM   #7
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As Skinnee noted in another thread, he's using water average instead of water out to calculate his delta, unlike in previous tests. This will skew the results slightly in favor of the other rads. I did a quick calculation of the SR1 at 1000RPM using the old method and got 358W at 10C instead of 352W with the new method. Not a huge difference, but the difference between the rads is not huge to begin with.

Curiously, Skinnee has either made a typo or miscalculated in the RX360 review at 1000RPM. He calculates a delta of 7.54C when it should be 7.88C using the numbers in his table. Carrying out the rest of the calculation using these numbers drops the RX360 from 368W to 360W.

Given this, the difference between the RX360 and SR1 at 1000RPM would be 2W instead of the 16W.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:19 PM   #8
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Curiously, Skinnee has either made a typo or miscalculated in the RX360 review at 1000RPM. He calculates a delta of 7.54C when it should be 7.88C using the numbers in his table. Carrying out the rest of the calculation using these numbers drops the RX360 from 368W to 360W.
No..

XSPC = Full Copper Radiator... (just like feser, its the midman's feser to be exact).

Vs.

Stealth = Not A Full Copper Radiator...

which brings back the question..
Why is a non full copper radiator cost more then a full copper radiator when there both made outside the USA.
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Uhm, ok, but what does that have to do with my post?
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:26 PM   #10
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Uhm, ok, but what does that have to do with my post?
oh wait im sorry u were talking about a calculation..

i thought u meant on overall result.

Yeah i misread it... Sorry... lol ive been looking at too many numbers at work today.
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Yeah i misread it... Sorry... lol ive been looking at too many numbers at work today.
No problem.

I agree with you, though. It does cost a lot without giving any clear advantage.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:46 PM   #12
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millertime for posting, with my work schedule and personal life things just take me a bit longer. The lab site always gets info first...then the forum versions come after that... but you're going to see a different forum version than I have used in the past. The idea I have in mind is similar to the news releases (think the News Section here at XS and the starter posts) that point to the main article on the lab site.

One thing to note about the review that I hope people are catching before going to the thermal results page and just reading the plots... The SR1 (and TFC360) calcs use Water Avg-Air In for Delta T and C/W. The current update I'm working on with change all the rad tables and charts over to Water Avg as well as the Triples Comparison will be updated. This took a lot longer because I had to fix the data storage problem...my template and workbook solution just wasn't very manageable and a lot of data had to be moved to the new workbook structure, I could really use some assistance from a web developer who can handle Content Management Systems, PHP, Ajax and MySQL <- hint, hint

Well, I took long enough typing out this reply that alacheesu got in before me...glad you caught the analysis difference, means you do actually read the write-up. I went diggin back through the RX data, and you're right the chart was wrong. The dT referenced the proper cell on the equation worksheet, but the water out cell was one too low (referenced row 8 instead of row 7). So the dT was right, the Water out was wrong. I did have to go through my new work books and make sure all was correct though. Either way, thanks for catching it and bringing it up... I'm human and screw up too, just ask my wife.

Enough blabbering from me...I'll keep chugging along, I have a lot of work to do in order to keep information coming from the tests and reviews I signed up for. Just know I'm not disappearing...just trying to keep my sanity. Although, with Vapor keeping such a feverish pace we may have to rename the site soon.

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alacheesu, I proudly give you a to swing at Naekuh's soapbox when necessary.
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do you think it will cool a i7 920 D0 (good batch) to 4.2 or maby even higher

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Old 10-01-2009, 04:54 PM   #14
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I find it interesting that the SR-1 has almost twice the pressure drop than the TC and XSPC triple rads.

TC =0.31 psig @2.0 gpm
SR-1 = 0.74 psig @2.0 gpm

Not that the restriction would likely result in any real change to loop performance, but interesting nonetheless.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:38 AM   #15
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do you think it will cool a i7 920 D0 (good batch) to 4.2 or maby even higher

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pleassssss can somebody help me
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:50 AM   #16
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That's possible with most triple radiators (and even a dual), so shouldn't be a problem. Of course, it depends on what else you're putting in your loop, on pump / water blocks / ambient temp / etc. And, of course, your CPU processor.

Let's just say the SR1 won't be a roadblock in your quest for 4.2 GHz, but neither will it be a guarantee.
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so why does this rad cost more then a RX360 when it performs less then it?
Didn't you get the memo? If it costs more it is has to be better.
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i may get flamed on this but :
the build quality is 10x better than XSPC rads
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Well, I do agree from the photos I have seen, the SR1s do look awesome and if I was building a rig for a competition I could see using them. As for raw performance though, I haven't heard any issues on here about XSPC rads prematurely failing on people and they seem to perform better according to Skinnee's results.
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i may get flamed on this but :
the build quality is 10x better than XSPC rads
No flame, that is a very legitimate observation... But for me personally, it has always been function over form. In my old age, I'm starting to care less though...
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:42 AM   #22
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I have 2 SR-1 120.1 radiators.

They look and feel amazing. Since I am using them to supplement 2 PA 120.2's, I am less worried about looks. I was going to go XSPC, but decided to splash out and try something new.

They are pretty amazing looking / feeling rads. Certainly better than my TC's in that department.
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