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Old 09-24-2009, 10:40 AM   #1
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I did it!, NICKELPLATED POTS !!!




this time is for test only (I dont polished pot well before nickelplating but next time will be much much better)
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:43 AM   #2
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Quality work as usual Mike. Shiny :P
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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That dosen't affect the cooling at all? If not looks great man!
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That dosen't affect the cooling at all? If not looks great man!
+1.

Nickel plating protects the finish but is a poor thermal conductor at ln2 temps...

In this case if the contact area is lapped, it might actually aid in keeping cold in however.

It's useless for heatpipes however....actually hinders the copper heatpipes coated with nickel from dissipating heat.
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1) Normal ES: Available to partners and press before the product actually launches. These are usually close to retail parts, maybe one stepping/node before retails. From my experience (I've had access to AMD & Intel ES CPUs before the official launch around 8 years) normal ES CPUs are actually usually worse than retails because manufacturing process develops all the time and retails keep getting better. Every Phenom II press sample (not even marked as ES but couple weeks earlier than retail parts) I've tested so far have been worse than normal retails.
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+1.

Nickel plating protects the finish but is a poor thermal conductor at ln2 temps...

In this case if the contact area is lapped, it might actually aid in keeping cold in however.

It's useless for heatpipes however....actually hinders the copper heatpipes coated with nickel from dissipating heat.
protect and you dont have any loss of performance

even better bcoz nickelplating make surfaces more flat
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that looks hot man! much better looking than the copper one!
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i doubt it will effect performance

you did a good job duniek!

at -100 to -190 not even toothpaste instead of normal paste between core and pot will effect performance
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I like this nickel plated
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lol was talking to K|ngp|n a few months back about doing this to an F1EE. Still want to try it but I need to find a few things first Nice job with the plating,looks slick.
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+1.

Nickel plating protects the finish but is a poor thermal conductor at ln2 temps...

In this case if the contact area is lapped, it might actually aid in keeping cold in however.

It's useless for heatpipes however....actually hinders the copper heatpipes coated with nickel from dissipating heat.
nickel plating is a very very thin coating, I doubt it hinders much of anything.
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nickel plating is a very very thin coating, I doubt it hinders much of anything.
It won't hinder his pot, unless he did all the way to the internals with it......if anything it will help as long as the "base" internals did not get plated.

Might want to look up the heat and cold analysis of certain metals in the periodic table before you say that it doesn't hinder as it can in the wrong applications....Heatpipes would be one of them...

Gold plating on electrical connections is very thin......and it makes a diff
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1) Normal ES: Available to partners and press before the product actually launches. These are usually close to retail parts, maybe one stepping/node before retails. From my experience (I've had access to AMD & Intel ES CPUs before the official launch around 8 years) normal ES CPUs are actually usually worse than retails because manufacturing process develops all the time and retails keep getting better. Every Phenom II press sample (not even marked as ES but couple weeks earlier than retail parts) I've tested so far have been worse than normal retails.

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It won't hinder his pot, unless he did all the way to the internals with it......if anything it will help as long as the "base" internals did not get plated.

Might want to look up the heat and cold analysis of certain metals in the periodic table before you say that it doesn't hinder as it can in the wrong applications....Heatpipes would be one of them...

Gold plating on electrical connections is very thin......and it makes a diff
b/c gold doesn't oxidize and therefore maintains its electrical conductivity
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b/c gold doesn't oxidize and therefore maintains its electrical conductivity
Yep but that works for gold plating on brass/copper etc.

Same principle applies for heat exchange as well....even the quality of copper used can effect heat exchange but thats better discussed in another thread.

Bottom line at ambient or ln2 temps nickel has poor heat/cold exchange but in the application duniek is using it in it is actually a +........it might only be a +1% but a + plus bling is a +.....

I can acchieve the same +% just by swapping out my aluminum wall on my pot for acrylic....
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this plating won't do anything to the thermodynamics. you guys know that the layer is only a few atoms thick right? and besides, the CPU/GPU is not temperature sensitive, especially on extreme temperature scales.

anyways, that plating looks very nice, although bling and benching just hasn't really mixed before
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Nice...

I will try it here with me, just missing the time

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nice gpu pot, can u pm me price of this pot?
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anyways, that plating looks very nice, although bling and benching just hasn't really mixed before
Hard to mix bling, apart from hwbot medals, especially once insulated... though i do recall some gold plated pots that dino and a few others got in limited run.
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seems fine,looks cool but why plate the contact area with nickel???i would have left that copper contact area alone being it conducts better heat vs a nickel barrier coating.diff is prob min at those temps anywayz.

how much would silver cost to do a pot that size?????anyone...guesses?

imo silver would apply better,look better and have a smoother overall finished look vs nickel.i dunno.
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seems fine,looks cool but why plate the contact area with nickel???i would have left that copper contact area alone being it conducts better heat vs a nickel barrier coating.diff is prob min at those temps anywayz.

how much would silver cost to do a pot that size?????anyone...guesses?

imo silver would apply better,look better and have a smoother overall finished look vs nickel.i dunno.
in 0,5-1mm thick of nickel performance will drop

but nickelplating shield is 10um (0,01mm so I am sure in theory and practice you dont see any perfomance loss in extreme low temps (even with waterblocks when every 1*C count
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wow...what about performance nickel plat??more better than cooper??
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wow...what about performance nickel plat??more better than cooper??
Nickel thermal Conductivity = 90

Copper thermal Conductivity = 400 worst case scenario.....
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in 0,5-1mm thick of nickel performance will drop

but nickelplating shield is 10um (0,01mm so I am sure in theory and practice you dont see any perfomance loss in extreme low temps (even with waterblocks when every 1*C count
We nickel plate a large number or brass components where I work and the coating can go as low as 3um (0.003mm), however it usually comes in around 7um and gives a similar finish to what you can see in the original post.
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Nickel plating is an electrolytic process, the plating itself is only few microns thick so there shouldn't be any impact on thermal conductivity.
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