So my watercooling setup cost $300

Titan7171 · 09-23-2009, 12:37 AM

6 x *** NEW *** Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 1/2" Fitting - Black Matte Finish $17.94

10 x Reuseable Clamps - For 1/2" Tubing (3/4" O.D.) - Black $9.90

10 x Tygon 3603 1/2" ID (3/4" OD) Clear Tubing $34.90

1 x *** NEW *** Watercool MO-RA 2 Extreme Performance 9 X 120mm Radiator Core

- Fitting Size: 1/2" OD $124.95

for the above $201 shipped

Enzotech Sapphire $43 shipped

XSPC dual bay res/pump $47 shipped

Hope it turns out ok.

tomslick.ca · 09-23-2009, 01:15 AM

what 9 120mm fans do you plane to use?

zeropluszero · 09-23-2009, 06:50 AM

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what 9 120mm fans do you plane to use?

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millertime359 · 09-23-2009, 06:52 AM

You might run into issues with your pump and raidaitor chices. The Mo-Ra is a restrictive rad and that pump works great as long as restriction is low. See here for rad: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226445 and here for pump: http://martin.skinneelabs.com/XSPC-D...mp-Review.html The Sapphire is a high flow block though, so that might help. If you haven't ordered yet, I would say to get a Swiftech MCP355 and a XSPC dual bay res or a Swiftech MCP655 and a Typhoon III if you want a bay res setup. There are other tops and res' if you don't care.

WeeMaan · 09-23-2009, 06:52 AM

What was the question again?

zeropluszero · 09-23-2009, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by millertime359

You might run into issues with your pump and raidaitor chices. The Mo-Ra is a restrictive rad and that pump works great as long as restriction is low. See here for rad: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226445 and here for pump: http://martin.skinneelabs.com/XSPC-D...mp-Review.html The Sapphire is a high flow block though, so that might help. If you haven't ordered yet, I would say to get a Swiftech MCP355 and a XSPC dual bay res or a Swiftech MCP655 and a Typhoon III if you want a bay res setup. There are other tops and res' if you don't care.

+1
consider a dual pump set up with DDC's, or a different rad perhaps.

SNiiPE_DoGG · 09-23-2009, 07:11 AM

yes, that pump you have in the OP is far too weak I am afraid :\

Titan7171 · 09-23-2009, 10:30 AM

Well for the price I got the res/pump it will have to do till I can upgrade, I definitly wanted the rad so I wasnt going to switch that out because of restriction. my weakest link is the pump but Ill see how it works out for the short term. Ill be posting some results compared to my aircooled setup.

As for the fan Ill be trying out a 36cm fan to see how that works out and I also have another experiment Im going to try with the rad.........so it should be fun which is what Im looking for.

Spawn-Inc · 09-23-2009, 03:26 PM

that 36mm rad won't do much of anything, it doesn't have the static pressure you need for rads.

faster3200 · 09-23-2009, 03:49 PM

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that 36mm rad won't do much of anything, it doesn't have the static pressure you need for rads.

With what is basically 3x 120.3 rads on a cpu only loop, I think he can get away with a weak fan.

My only concern with the plan is that since he is using one big fan he is going to have a large dead spot making a lot of the rad worthless. A shroud would really help in this case.

NaeKuh · 09-23-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by faster3200

With what is basically 3x 120.3 rads on a cpu only loop, I think he can get away with a weak fan.

My only concern with the plan is that since he is using one big fan he is going to have a large dead spot making a lot of the rad worthless. A shroud would really help in this case.

so what makes u think that adding the dead spots of 9 fans won't = the same dead spot of 1 larger fan?

lesstutrey · 09-23-2009, 05:50 PM

the shroud would help, i would certainly think, and that would kinda eliminate dead spots, and actually be more effective than a bunch of small fans (think condensers) however a fan that does a good enough job is probably gonna be a slight bit on the loud side, but 9 fans would be too. And i agree with above post, actually might even be greater dead spot area depending on a few factors if you ran 9 120's

Spawn-Inc · 09-23-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by faster3200

With what is basically 3x 120.3 rads on a cpu only loop, I think he can get away with a weak fan.

My only concern with the plan is that since he is using one big fan he is going to have a large dead spot making a lot of the rad worthless. A shroud would really help in this case.

i forgot that, i have 3x 120.3's and can run passive on my q6600, but only stock.

also the dead spots on in the corners.

Titan7171 · 09-23-2009, 08:49 PM

The reason Im going with the 1x360mm is because I already have it here and I dont have to add any cost to this setup right now, later I can also go 4x 18cm fan something like the square ones available here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...217&name=180mm

or do a 8x18cm in push pull, theres always a way of doing something different. I definitely wouldnt go the 9x120mm

also the mo-ra works extremely well all across the board even so with low rpm 400-1200rpm fans (quiet)

The stuff gets here Monday

millertime359 · 09-24-2009, 06:31 AM

That rad is nice for cooling. It seems you can run some slow fans on it, the problem is its restriction. I think may run into issues with that pump you decided to get. I would keep an eye on the classifieds for some used DDCs or D5s to show up. I've seen some pop up for about what you paid for that.

Titan7171 · 09-24-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by millertime359

That rad is nice for cooling. It seems you can run some slow fans on it, the problem is its restriction. I think may run into issues with that pump you decided to get. I would keep an eye on the classifieds for some used DDCs or D5s to show up. I've seen some pop up for about what you paid for that.

would running a more powerful pump in the same loop with a weak one kill the weak one?

Its like being tied by a rope to Jesse Owens then asked to keep up

what do you think of getting another of the same dual bay res/ pump to put into the loop? I wanted to add a second res/pump anyway to increase the water amount anyway?

millertime359 · 09-24-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan7171

would running a more powerful pump in the same loop with a weak one kill the weak one?

Its like being tied by a rope to Jesse Owens then asked to keep up

what do you think of getting another of the same dual bay res/ pump to put into the loop? I wanted to add a second res/pump anyway to increase the water amount anyway?

Yea, a more powerful pump will kill that pump. I would just get a DDC or D5. You would be taking up 4 fronts bays with those 2 pumps. The amount of water will only help your temps if you don't run your computer for long lengths of times. If it is on for hours each day, it isn't worth having the extra water.

Titan7171 · 09-24-2009, 12:23 PM

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Yea, a more powerful pump will kill that pump. I would just get a DDC or D5. You would be taking up 4 fronts bays with those 2 pumps. The amount of water will only help your temps if you don't run your computer for long lengths of times. If it is on for hours each day, it isn't worth having the extra water.

I only need 1 drive, this is a gaming/internet rig and I have 5 bays. The computer does not stay on all day either. I wanted to have both dualbay res in there lit up with UV from behind I think it would look cool from the front.

Im going to set everything up then buy either the ddc or xspc?

millertime359 · 09-24-2009, 12:33 PM

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I only need 1 drive, this is a gaming/internet rig and I have 5 bays. The computer does not stay on all day either. I wanted to have both dualbay res in there lit up with UV from behind I think it would look cool from the front.

Im going to set everything up then buy either the ddc or xspc?

You haven't purchased the pump yet? Well then either get a Swiftech MCP355 with the XSPC dual bay res, or get a MCP655 with the Typhoon III.

Titan7171 · 09-24-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime359

You haven't purchased the pump yet? Well then either get a Swiftech MCP355 with the XSPC dual bay res, or get a MCP655 with the Typhoon III.

Yes I got the XSPC/pump already Ive had it for 2 weeks then I got the waterblock last week then I ordered the rad and everything else 2 days ago.........but the res/pump was the first thing I got. I know you are trying to sway me off this pump/res combo because its not ideal but its to late

I wanted a second one to compliment the first and relieve some of the load off it and at the same time adding more water into the loop and having 2 dual bay res pump combo was my idea from the begining.

Im only cooling a cpu so hopefully it will work ok for the meantime.

millertime359 · 09-24-2009, 01:28 PM

The CPU block you have is high flowing, so that should help you out. The additional water a second one of those will add won't make any difference. The difference would come you if you have alot of extra water and the comp is only on for a couple hours a day.

When you plan to get another one of those pumps, I would get one of those i linked instead.

Your temps shouldn't be horrible, but they may not be as good as they could be.

Titan7171 · 09-24-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime359

The CPU block you have is high flowing, so that should help you out. The additional water a second one of those will add won't make any difference. The difference would come you if you have alot of extra water and the comp is only on for a couple hours a day.

When you plan to get another one of those pumps, I would get one of those i linked instead.

Your temps shouldn't be horrible, but they may not be as good as they could be.

Ok would the amount of water make a difference if I added a GC to the loop?.........A 5870x2 is in my future.

also would I be able to add the mcp355 to the loop without damaging the pump in the res?

Hey thanks for all the help man

Caoder · 09-24-2009, 02:05 PM

no if you add the mcp355 it will kill your other xspc pump, but i think just the mcp355 should be enough for a loop including the gpu because most gpu blocks aren't restrictive. also you really don't need that much water at all... won't really change anything.

millertime359 · 09-24-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan7171

Ok would the amount of water make a difference if I added a GC to the loop?.........A 5870x2 is in my future.

also would I be able to add the mcp355 to the loop without damaging the pump in the res?

Hey thanks for all the help man

That pump combo will have to go if you get a MCP355 or MCP655

The amount of water doesn't make a difference. I may have been confusing you a bit earlier, but it really doesn't make a difference.

Titan7171 · 09-24-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Caoder

no if you add the mcp355 it will kill your other xspc pump, but i think just the mcp355 should be enough for a loop including the gpu because most gpu blocks aren't restrictive. also you really don't need that much water at all... won't really change anything.

Im under the impression that having more water in the loop makes it harder to heat up just like trying to heat up a pot of water thats half full is easier than trying to heat up a full pot of water. The more water the longer it takes to heat up keeping the overall water temp lower?

Am I wrong about this?