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Old 07-07-2007, 01:16 AM   #1
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FTC abandons net neutrality?!

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The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has decided to abandon net neutrality and allow telecoms companies to charge websites for access.

The FTC said in a report that, despite popular support for net neutrality, it was minded to let the market sort out the issue.

This means that the organisation will not stand in the way of companies using differential pricing to make sure that some websites can be viewed more quickly than others. The report also counsels against net neutrality legislation.

"This report recommends that policy makers proceed with caution in the evolving dynamic industry of broadband internet access, which is generally moving towards more, not less, competition," FTC chairman Deborah Platt Majoras wrote.

"In the absence of significant market failure, or demonstrated consumer harm, policy makers should be particularly hesitant to enact new regulation in this area."

The report has caused outrage in the online community. Many are worried that any abandonment of net neutrality will harm competition, since it will allow big companies to outspend start-ups.

"Mostly the FTC suggests ways that the telephone and cable companies could have new ways to make money from content and applications providers," said Art Brodsky, of internet advocacy group Public Knowledge.

"Or lower-income subscribers could be charged lower prices, subsidised by 'prioritization revenues' much as supported email services now provide free email accounts. Nowhere is there discussion of what the consumer gets out of the deal."
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Surely this cannot be? Even with (semi)mass public outcry they still refuse to allow the internet to remain free?!
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:30 AM   #2
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:38 AM   #3
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:49 AM   #4
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:56 AM   #5
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Why because I am not the usual superficial spineless coward you"re used to dealing with?

I belong to the A.C.L.U and fight for peoples rights that cannot afford to buy their way out of everything! Whats you're involvement level?
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:19 AM   #6
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this.

Wait, what?
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:51 AM   #7
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:11 PM   #8
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..."remain free"? We don't have net neutrality now, and remaining free would thus mean continuing to NOT have net neutrality... Net neutrality means the government steps in to regulate the internet/telecos, how can that ever be associated with freedom?
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:31 PM   #9
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Huh? I am still terribly confused.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:34 PM   #10
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Actally wrong we do have Net neutrality for the most part although it is not legally binding in any way. I think that it is largely a legal grey area has contributed to this. If it is explicitly allowed to manipulate bandwidth i fear that the internet as we know it may soon cease to exist.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:46 PM   #11
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..."remain free"? We don't have net neutrality now, and remaining free would thus mean continuing to NOT have net neutrality... Net neutrality means the government steps in to regulate the internet/telecos, how can that ever be associated with freedom?
Yeah we did have network neutrality, up until 2005 it was considered implicit, but then we needed legislation to continue net neutrality.
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:47 PM   #12
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WE all know who is responsible for all cuttdowns of freedom. Its the filthy rich politicans that want to get even more richer through us all, they dont know how the real world is and that is how i see it.

dont give me crap about making the world safer, like they care.
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:39 AM   #13
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FTC is colluding with coporations.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:31 AM   #14
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Im sorry but is this even possible?
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Im sorry but is this even possible?
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This is a big win for freedom.

Net nuetrality essentially put the costs of bandwidth on everyone rather then then on those who use it. It actually is good for the consumer and bad for corporations. Corporations backed net neutrality because it meant that high bandwidth websites wouldnt have to pay for high bandwidth ebsites.

Seems like everyone who is freaking out right now doesn't even know what the bill was.

Go FTC!
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Misleading bill names 101. Today, we're having a lecture on Patriot Act.

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